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The Crown - Next Series

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antelopevalley · 10/10/2022 15:26

The next series will be starting on the 9th of November. Imelda Staunton will be playing the Queen. Tobias Menzies is playing Philip.

Historical events we’re likely to see in season 5 of The Crown:
Prince Andrew’s divorce
Princess Anne’s divorce
Windsor Castle fire
The separation/divorce of Prince Charles and Lady Diana
The Queen sues The Sun newspaper
The death of Princess Diana
Tony Blair becomes Prime Minister
www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/the-crown-season-5-on-netflix-everything-we-know-so-far-09-2022/

Who will be watching it?

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PoundShopPrincess · 17/10/2022 14:49

Oh right so now you're spinning the RF got the interview removed. Pull the other one, it's got bells on, as my gran used to say. Halloween Grin
Charles never said it. The Crown made it up.
Also the inaccuracies in The Crown go far beyond substituting one palace for another. They include being years out on events; fabricating correspondence - and by that I mean the correspondence didn't exist at all - Peter Morgan made it all up completely; fictitious meetings.
Fwiw regarding the Charles/Major conversation, The Crown has responded to Major's criticisms by saying The Crown is fiction and they just imagine stuff. So no-one on The Crown is saying it's true.
Ready to apologise yet @antelopevalley ? The Crown and Major have both said the Charles storyline is fiction.

IcedPurple · 17/10/2022 14:56

Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/10/2022 14:24

IcedPurple I'd lay decent money it was on Twitter or some similar internet sewer ...

Pretty sure it's the OP's favourite source for all things royal.

The site which is bitchy about celebrities. Or words to that effect.

667TheNeighbourOfTheBeast · 17/10/2022 15:03

ImAvingOops · 17/10/2022 12:16

The trouble with denials from politicians, is that they routinely lie so often, no one believes them even if they are telling the truth!

I remember John Major lecturing us all about a return to family values, and then it turned out he'd been shagging Edwin's Curry. Do you think he told Norma the truth about that while it was going on? He certainly didn't tell us.

Now I'm inclined to believe that Prince Charles would not have suggested the Queen abdicate - my impression is that protocol is key to functioning as a member of the RF, but if it had happened, would you expect a former PM to say so or to deny it?

Thanks for the reminder about John Major and Edwina Curry! I had successfully managed to forget that 😂🤮 it proper put me off my lunch at the time as Curry had gone into detail I think about where and when they were shagging!
I wonder if that’s going to be in The Crown ?

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 15:10

Charles did two interviews with Dimbleby.
news.yahoo.com/prince-charles-convinced-adultery-confession-interview-145702849.html

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 17/10/2022 15:10

FWIW, and as I recall it, the alleged "abdication row" was nothing to do with The Crown but said to have come from a remark made by a member of Charles's household

With a strong caveat that it's probably all nonsense too, the only thing I can find is this - apologies for it being the Express, but I thought it might offer some clue to the incident being mentioned: www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1544113/queen-news-furious-prince-charles-royal-household-abdication-royal-family-spt

IcedPurple · 17/10/2022 15:15

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 15:10

Yes we know that.

But where did Charles speak of his wish that the queen would abdicate?

And where, other than the above mentioned royal hate site masqurading as a 'gossip' site, did you 'read' about this?

jeffgoldblum · 17/10/2022 15:19

I find yahoo awful, do others still use this?

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 15:32

I remember Charles laughing at a Royal Variety show when a comedian joked that Charles must be desperate for the queen to abdicate.

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Readinginthesun · 17/10/2022 15:43

Which comedian ?

jeffgoldblum · 17/10/2022 15:43

This is getting tiresome and ridiculous now , your really clutching at straws to prove something you imagined is true! , do you think the grief and tears on his face after his mother died was an act?
Really?

jeffgoldblum · 17/10/2022 15:44

@Readinginthesun , probably my blobby!

jeffgoldblum · 17/10/2022 15:44

Mr

Readinginthesun · 17/10/2022 15:45

I think it was Dennis Healy who said “ when you are in a hole, stop digging”
Wise advice.

jeffgoldblum · 17/10/2022 15:46

Yes indeed! , @Readinginthesun are you finding this as irritating as me?

Readinginthesun · 17/10/2022 15:48

jeffgoldblum · 17/10/2022 15:46

Yes indeed! , @Readinginthesun are you finding this as irritating as me?

A combination of irritated and mildly amused !

derxa · 17/10/2022 15:54

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 15:32

I remember Charles laughing at a Royal Variety show when a comedian joked that Charles must be desperate for the queen to abdicate.

And?

ImAvingOops · 17/10/2022 15:56

I do actually think that The Crown is on thin ice dramatising real, living people. Genuine damage could be done to a person's reputation when conversations and actions are attributed to their character in a drama.
If my real name and appearance was used in this way, it wouldn't be enough for me that this series is filed under 'drama' in the Netflix categories, I'd want proper disclaimers that this was fiction.
As it stands, there's enough truth in the series to lead some to think there's no smoke without fire. Especially now we are getting to events within our living memory.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone sued for defamation of character at some point. Not a royal but a politician maybe.

jeffgoldblum · 17/10/2022 16:11

@ImAvingOops , a very good point! , to be honest I was surprised that they are allowed to do this , aren't papers at risk of slander? , surely there must be something similar for film and tv?

jeffgoldblum · 17/10/2022 16:13

Also what is the good of saying it's drama , when som people believe all sorts if it's on tv? , I think it's telling they refused to put a disclaimer that it's fictional on the credits!

IcedPurple · 17/10/2022 16:34

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 15:32

I remember Charles laughing at a Royal Variety show when a comedian joked that Charles must be desperate for the queen to abdicate.

And yet you can't remember where you read about Charles "apparently" telling Dimbleby he wanted the queen to abdicate?

upinaballoon · 17/10/2022 16:38

jeffgoldblum · 16/10/2022 15:21

I stopped watching after the first season, but even then I knew some loons would think it was a true documentary! .🤨

Someone bought me the DVD of the first series and I watched about half of it. I haven't watched any more. Of course they get the basics right, like PM marrying Anthony Armstrong-Jones, but they can't possibly get all the actions or conversations or feelings correct. It's a disgrace that some people are so dumbo that they think it's all true, and some actors have gone down in my estimation for taking part.

ImAvingOops · 17/10/2022 16:51

I think Claire Foy and Matt Smith did a good job of portraying some of the difficulties of the early years - what it might have felt like to a 1950s husband to find himself eclipsed in terms of importance, the conflicting loyalties of bring a young mother, wife and Queen. If anything, I believe they increased sympathy and affection towards the RF.
But if I was an actor, I wouldn't touch the Charles and Diana stuff with a barge pole.

Gilmorehill · 17/10/2022 17:03

ImAvingOops · 17/10/2022 15:56

I do actually think that The Crown is on thin ice dramatising real, living people. Genuine damage could be done to a person's reputation when conversations and actions are attributed to their character in a drama.
If my real name and appearance was used in this way, it wouldn't be enough for me that this series is filed under 'drama' in the Netflix categories, I'd want proper disclaimers that this was fiction.
As it stands, there's enough truth in the series to lead some to think there's no smoke without fire. Especially now we are getting to events within our living memory.
I wouldn't be surprised if someone sued for defamation of character at some point. Not a royal but a politician maybe.

I was wondering about Penny Knatchbull suing.

667TheNeighbourOfTheBeast · 17/10/2022 17:10

Hasn’t it got a disclaimer on it at the end to say it’s a work of fiction?
I get that it could be more prominent and some people are a bit daft.
I thought that The Crown showed the Queen in a good light, other than the silly invention of her faking tears at Aberfan, seriously that wasn’t a dramatic enough story on its own ? I had more sympathy for her and Prince Philip with his tragic childhood after watching it,

antelopevalley · 17/10/2022 17:11

IcedPurple · 17/10/2022 16:34

And yet you can't remember where you read about Charles "apparently" telling Dimbleby he wanted the queen to abdicate?

I did not say I could not remember. You frequently lie about what I said. I did not answer the question.

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