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RandomPenguinHouse · 30/09/2022 11:30

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jeffgoldblum · 01/10/2022 13:51

You really read all these trash Papers then !
Each to is own I suppose.

HannaHanna · 01/10/2022 13:51

@notanotheroneagain you mentioned that William defended his wife. Do you believe he should also defend Harry’s wife?

Did Harry defend Kate?

Maireas · 01/10/2022 13:52

I don't understand, @notanotheroneagain - why would MM's lawyers produce a 15 page document telling lies about her?
Wasn't she paying them?
I think you can refer that to a Law body.

jeffgoldblum · 01/10/2022 13:52

@HannaHanna , good point!

smileandjoy · 01/10/2022 13:55

Ohnonevermind · 01/10/2022 13:33

@smileandjoy

They were plotting their deals well in advance of announcing their plans to step back.

‘Plotting their deals’ 😅

You still don’t appear to appreciate the importance difference between ‘fact’ and ‘opinion’.

notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:00

HannaHanna · 01/10/2022 13:51

@notanotheroneagain you mentioned that William defended his wife. Do you believe he should also defend Harry’s wife?

Did Harry defend Kate?

When KM was having bad publicity, Harry always made sure he publicly makes sure that he is seen with KM, getting along with her and being supportive. She joined their (H&W) projects too.

A point I made before was that HMQ, KC and PW are heads of their Houses. They are the rulers and heirs. Their word has more gravitas than H or any other member. H can complain all he wants, if these 3 never say anything, no one is going to take them seriously.

H was happy for W to put out a statement saying he(W) was not bullying H. What they (KC and W) do sounds very much selfish and just only about themselves.

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notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:02

Maireas · 01/10/2022 13:52

I don't understand, @notanotheroneagain - why would MM's lawyers produce a 15 page document telling lies about her?
Wasn't she paying them?
I think you can refer that to a Law body.

Did you read the article?

They were showing that the DM lies about MM all the time. I was answering the person who seemed to think they are constantly printing the truth about MM.

HannaHanna · 01/10/2022 14:03

@notanotheroneagain

Is it accurate to say you feel it’s PW’s job to defend Meghan the way that he defends because of the power he wields?

SherilynnFine · 01/10/2022 14:06

GlorianaCervixia · 01/10/2022 13:50

There's at least one topless photo of Meghan floating around on the internet but, as far as I know, no media organisation has printed it. At least in that, the media seems to have changed for the better.

I would not be so optimistic. Yesterday the Fail published a really strange story about how the lawsuit in France involving Kate and the publication of her topless photos is going to hinge on footage of Meghan from an old advert in which she was grilling hamburgers in a skimpy top.

They had a big story and published loads of still photos from the video, then, at the end, they wrote this little beauty:

"Update: Since publication of this article we understand that the hearing of the appeal on the 13th June did not feature any reference to Meghan Markle or photographs of her."

Question of course is: why is the story still up since, by the Fail's own admission, the premise is entirely untrue?

Answer: clickbait!

notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:16

HannaHanna · 01/10/2022 14:03

@notanotheroneagain

Is it accurate to say you feel it’s PW’s job to defend Meghan the way that he defends because of the power he wields?

Not too sure 'job' is the word I would use.

Surely, he saw how publicly supportive H was of KM. The vitriol against MM was off the scale. When H put out his statement, W would have been aware of how much it's all affecting his brother and that it's not going down. I say this about both him and KC. I surely expected that W or KC would step in seeing how this all hurt his brother and how supportive he had been about KM. He did after all, even at the slighted mention, jump to defend himself around bullying Harry.

I am very disappointed in him on this.

He is an heir, and the press protect him, ofcourse he wields power.

Croque · 01/10/2022 14:19

🙄Oh how predictable.

jeffgoldblum · 01/10/2022 14:22

Harry wasn't thinking of his brothers feelings when he let his wife slag her off on tv!

Readinginthesun · 01/10/2022 14:23

www.vanityfair.com/style/2016/11/prince-william-statement-support-prince-harry-meghan-markle/amp

Is that good enough @notanotheroneagain ?

Maireas · 01/10/2022 14:25

notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:02

Did you read the article?

They were showing that the DM lies about MM all the time. I was answering the person who seemed to think they are constantly printing the truth about MM.

Right. You said that MMs lawyers printed lies.

notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:31

DFOD · 01/10/2022 13:32

I have reported the ageist and misogynistic posters seems MNHQ are responding with deletions.

Did you really?
Did you report this erm...'critical' poster who said :

The fact that he is constantly edited and monitored by his older, wordlier spose guarantees that she will be heavily involved in policing it's content.

They were referring to MM.

HannaHanna · 01/10/2022 14:32

Let’s call it responsibility, then.

I think we are getting somewhere if we can acknowledge the differences between the four of them

I understand what you are saying about this, but think you cannot expect everyone in these different roles to be treated exactly the same way. Or to act the same way. It swings both ways. Meghan is American. Let’s not expect her to behave like Lady Diana Spencer born and bred be wife of a King. Or Kate raised in England. We Americans are never going to be able to fully pull of the act and nor should we need to do so.

And if you recognize the differences and allow for them, you can see for example, that their children will be treated differently. Not by Granny at Christmas, but by the Crown.

The relationships are not equivalent: Harry had known Kate for more than a decade. William cannot know Meghan much at all, even now.

Nude photos and criticism/insults are not equivalent. I think all would raise hell if recent photos of her sunbathing nude were published. If someone says “PW is a big doody head” no one is going to react.

I do believe Meghan is sensitive (based on her reaction to Mariah Carey) and that the tabloid headlines hurt. I do think Harry wanted to kill them all and for William to make it stop. But I don’t think that you can go swinging at every rude headline. Nor that it’s been the palace’s habit to do so.

And yes, more has been published about MM. She gets clicks. You yourself have called Kate boring. MM puts herself in the light and is glamorous and interesting to people. They are not the same. She’s going to get more attention both good and bad.

DFOD · 01/10/2022 14:33

notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:02

Did you read the article?

They were showing that the DM lies about MM all the time. I was answering the person who seemed to think they are constantly printing the truth about MM.

They were showing that the DM lies about MM all the time. I was answering the person who seemed to think they are constantly printing the truth about MM.

Yes they do. We all know that - so we don’t access it, read it or distribute it. Everything they say about RF or other Celebs is dismissed by most - but you are happy to reference these disrespectful and disreputable sources and distribute their lies when they are distorted to fit your agenda.

Doesn’t do your credibility any good.

HannaHanna · 01/10/2022 14:34

That was in reply to @notanotheroneagain and sorry for the wretched editing job.

notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:36

Readinginthesun · 01/10/2022 14:23

The statement itself clearly states that it's from Harry.

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Readinginthesun · 01/10/2022 14:39

Have you actually read the link @notanotheroneagain ?? Statement issued by William

Gilmorehill · 01/10/2022 14:39

jeffgoldblum · 01/10/2022 14:22

Harry wasn't thinking of his brothers feelings when he let his wife slag her off on tv!

Excellent point.

notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:42

Maireas · 01/10/2022 14:25

Right. You said that MMs lawyers printed lies.

I said they produced a 15 page documents of the lies that we're printed about her, and I went on to show screenshots and a link on the whole thing.

Don't think it's that difficult ................

jeffgoldblum · 01/10/2022 14:42

For clarity!

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notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:43

Readinginthesun · 01/10/2022 14:39

Have you actually read the link @notanotheroneagain ?? Statement issued by William

And have you read the statement itself? I linked it

Maireas · 01/10/2022 14:44

notanotheroneagain · 01/10/2022 14:42

I said they produced a 15 page documents of the lies that we're printed about her, and I went on to show screenshots and a link on the whole thing.

Don't think it's that difficult ................

No, it's really not difficult to word things in a clear manner.

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