The Times

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Anyone else think The Times should not be printing extracts from this new book about Royal Courtiers at this time? Incredibly stupid given that H&M are trying to mend fences? I feel really quite cross for everyone involved - William's efforts to build bridges etc, all going to be in vain now. Very naughty.

It wont stop as well. They have moved from the other thread to this one. Give it a couple of days when this is full another thread will be started - going on about the same BS over and over again. Unfounded claims and trash talk from tabloids and palace workers.

I have never seen people show their contempt of a foreign WOC so much! Meghan has completely rattled British people! If that isn't power then I don't know what is.
A head of state of this country and several colonies dies but it is non stop talk about Meghan - over and over again. I never thought I would see anything like this in Britain! ever!

Scoff all you want but if you join the RF you are expected to adhere to the rules

Exactly. It’s a job. You wear the uniform you are expected to wear. There were lots if members of the armed forces wearing very strange headgear during the Queen’s funeral, but that is what they are expected to do and they weren’t complaining. I really think that Meghan’s problems stem from her lack of understanding that being part of the Royal family is a job with rules of employment. i
do t know if she didn’t understand because the person who should have explained it to her didn’t do so, or because she thought that it would be possible to make her own rules. Of course she is at liberty to challenge these rules, but as has been said many times, surely it is better to learn more about the job and what it entails and make changes from there.

Oh I know, but one has to be selective on here. He’s thoroughly crooked.

Protocol is that if HM wore a hat , ladies were expected to wear one . MM was accompanying HM on a trip and an aide advised her of this but she refused .Scoff all you want but if you join the RF you are expected to adhere to the rules

So what? You can 'expect' all you want but it's nuts to think a stranger will follow your silly rules. No is a full sentence.

Meghan was unpaid - she was told over and over again she was not a working member of the RF - so yes UNPAID. Do you go to work with your spouse to assist him because they get paid?
And if your spouse wears uniform to work, do you wear that too when you go with him?

As someone else said if your job requires you to wear a uniform , you wear it or don’t take the job !

Andrew is a massive, massive piece of deluded, dodgy sh*t. He's obsessed with money, status and his own personal pleasure. Why the rest of them (a) have permitted this, and (b) have stayed so quiet about it, I will never understand or, frankly, forgive.

Are you talking about workers and employed people? No a free person like Meghan who was not a working royal? This wasn't her job and she wasn't paid. She is not a slave.

Unfounded claims and trash talk from tabloids and palace workers.

Convenient words of course for the people who cannot, will not, hear a negative word against the Sussexes, but the detailed and consistent accounts from a large number of former employees of the pair, many of them named, some junior, some senior, and with many details that can be corroborated, are not so easy to dismiss as that.

(and the victim blaming and smearing going on on this thread is…illuminating).

As someone else said if your job requires you to wear a uniform , you wear it or don’t take the job

I wasn't replying about a job, I was replying about some bloke apparently telling MM to wear a hat for a social engagement.

Meghan was unpaid - she was told over and over again she was not a working member of the RF - so yes UNPAID

Harry and Meghan are now referred to as not working members because they have left. But they very much were working members whilst they still lived here. When was she told she was not a working member before they left?

The thing is, everyone agrees with you. He's awful. A dreadful man. A veritable laughing stock after the sweaty interview. Which is presumably why threads about him don't prompt much discussion.

Of course she was a working member of the RF ! Are you for real ? She had patronages , went on tour etc .The best clothes paid for .
Who told her she had to work ? She was asked if she wanted to continue her career but she said no . Wise choice given she was a z list who had very few options .

Meh, they spoke about the royal family and now the Queen has gone who was very much of the opinion they shouldn't refute anything against them it seems its a way to get the other narrative out there. Apparently only a small section of the book is about M&H. I suspect its true though and there's receipts otherwise they know they'd sue- pretty much like Tom bowers book.

I wasn't replying about a job, I was replying about some bloke apparently telling MM to wear a hat for a social engagement.

You seem to have misunderstood. Meghan was on an official engagement with the Queen and was told by an aide that a hat was required. So yes, it was part of the job

She was not a working member - she was told they couldn't help her when she was suicidal because their duty of care was for employees of the palace only. She was told to return to Hollywood and act for income.

So to comply with uniform requests for working palace staff would have meant she was a slave.

Fun as pointing out that Andrew is a cunt and Megan seems annoying is, it feels quite repetitive.

Perhaps you could get back to your OP, OP and explain what you mean about the times being stupid?

Why Should Meghan work for the RF if she is unpaid. Didn't they say she needs to go back to Hollywood and act for her money - she wasn't going to be looked after financially by the RF? So why force her to work then and wear silly hats if she didn't want to (not even sure this is true). . . . so effectively a black slave then for the RF?

What an utterly offensive thing to say, when did slavery provide you with a multi million Pound wedding, a country house on the Windsor Estate, riches beyond most peoples comprehension, access to the most powerful and influential people on the planet, I could go on and on, to say Meghan was a black slave to the royal family is disgusting.

I know. It really does not reflect well on them at all.

His dodgy dealings have been going on for decades.

You seem to have misunderstood. Meghan was on an official engagement with the Queen and was told by an aide that a hat was required. So yes, it was part of the job

So she was actually salaried then? There seems to be some dispute. This aide was her supervisor or responsible for dress code or something.

What do people on these threads want from Meghan? Do you want to draw blood? It's from one thread to another. What do you want to happen to Meghan? Maybe sign a petition and ask your King Charles then put it to rest. It looks really bad that people are so obsessed with her in such an unhealthy way. Even worse, on a forum for women and mothers.

Here you go

You're right @donquixotedelamancha, I hadn't thought of it in terms of money. Perhaps 'stupid' wasn't the right word. 'Unkind' maybe, or 'careless with a grieving family's feelings', something like that.

I imagine if there’s any chance of suing for libel then the Sussexes lawyers will be on it?
I can’t imagine anyone would be stupid enough to write a books of lies and fabrication knowing how litigatious (is that a word?) H&M are?

She was not a working member - she was told they couldn't help her when she was suicidal because their duty of care was for employees of the palace only. She was told to return to Hollywood and act for income.

Not quite. She was told that she could continue acting if she wanted to, but she didn’t, she wanted to “hit the ground running”. No one said she had to return to acting. Why would the place not be able to “pay for”Harry’s wife?
The duty of care to employees only applied to palace staff. The HR department are not responsible for Principals (Meghan being a Principal ie a member of the family) and not a palace employee. There is constant access to medical staff for the family, as shown by the Queen being under care of medical staff before she died. This is nothing to do with the HR department

What it doesn’t explain is why someone who has behaved far worse than H&M would ever dream of attracts so little comment.

If this really is all about bad behaviour and bullying in the RF - then be consistent. Call them all out.