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Will Charles attempt to bring H&M back?

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EdieLedwell · 17/09/2022 18:47

I've been wondering about this all week.

What do people think? Would William want that ? Would Kate?

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Roussette · 18/09/2022 06:46

Thirdsummerofourdiscontent · 17/09/2022 21:30

Hopefully not. I personally think the interviews, tell alls and books are unforgivable. My family wouldn’t forgive that if it was done to us.

What books? You haven't read one yet. What interviews plural? they gave one. What tell alls?

People talk like they are publishing stuff on the RF daily. They aren't, but of course that doesn't suit the narrative if you don't like them.

Roussette · 18/09/2022 06:55

Prince William has offered olive branch to Harry

What olive branch? I missed that.

As for security... Andrew gets round the clock security not 'as and when' as a PP said. The cost is estimated to be between £2M - £3M.
Harry and family should have security every time they come to the UK.

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 07:00

Roussette · 18/09/2022 06:46

What books? You haven't read one yet. What interviews plural? they gave one. What tell alls?

People talk like they are publishing stuff on the RF daily. They aren't, but of course that doesn't suit the narrative if you don't like them.

That’s not quite correct. There was the book that Omid Scobie did, that (I thought) Meghan admitted involvement with. She knew aides were giving Omid information.

Then he apparently has a sequel. Then Harry’s book. So books plural would be correct. I don’t think the poster gave the impression all the books were currently published. And I think that poster is clearly talking about the future too. So future books and interviews.

Meghan has done several interviews talking about her time in the RF. including a section that pointed out that she isn’t under a NDA and so can speak as much as she wants.

And the South Africa Interview, before they left.

Its also come up in each one of her podcasts. Now I understand it’s a big part of her life and probably had a huge impact on her life so will come up. I am not saying she shouldn’t.

But it’s not one book and one interview.

susan12345678 · 18/09/2022 07:05

And then there's the continual stream of leaks via Omid Scobie...

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 07:09

I have just read that apparently Williams car passed Harrys in Windsor as W came back from collecting the children from school. They wound down their windows to have a quick chat. If this is the only time H has seen George and Charlotte since he left for the US , I think that’s very sad.

Hillcrest2022 · 18/09/2022 07:24

William and Kate have inherited the Duchy of Cirneall which I hear generates 1Billion a year. I appreciate it goes to tye Treasury.

Surely a big salary can be given to the Sussexes to avoid them needing to get income from Netflix, Spotify etc in return for their signature on NDAs. Why haven't they reached this agreement?

I don't like the Oprah interview and grubby tea-spilling interviews but that's their source of income. Equally, I don't like the media narrative that Meghan is the devil incarnate as that's pure bullying.

Roussette · 18/09/2022 07:24

Then he apparently has a sequel. Then Harry’s book

That is in the future if it happens. Posters talk like it's happened. It hasn't. Criticise by all means when it happens, not before!

It is one book and one interview. She was asked a question in SA, she answered as to how she felt. She mentioned the nursery fire thing in a podcast. That's it.

The way it is manipulated on here is to talk as if they're tweeting, giving interviews, talking about the RF all the time. They're not.

All this projection about what they might do is plain daft. To me anyway. I think some people will be very very disappointed if his book is just about his experiencs growing up at Highgrove, the Army etc... with nothing to particularly criticise! That would be funny actually....

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 07:34

Roussette · 18/09/2022 07:24

Then he apparently has a sequel. Then Harry’s book

That is in the future if it happens. Posters talk like it's happened. It hasn't. Criticise by all means when it happens, not before!

It is one book and one interview. She was asked a question in SA, she answered as to how she felt. She mentioned the nursery fire thing in a podcast. That's it.

The way it is manipulated on here is to talk as if they're tweeting, giving interviews, talking about the RF all the time. They're not.

All this projection about what they might do is plain daft. To me anyway. I think some people will be very very disappointed if his book is just about his experiencs growing up at Highgrove, the Army etc... with nothing to particularly criticise! That would be funny actually....

Really odd that rather than just press the quote button, you selected a small part of my posts, cut and paste it to answer it.

Why would you take the longer route. So you could ignore that I also said that i didn’t take the post, to be saying already published and that I thought it was clear they were including future publishing. Why cut the part where I preempted that point?

Meghan talked about the situation in the cut interview and made some predications that wouldn’t have happened.

She has also said the Press called her child the N word in another interview.

She didn’t just mention a nursery fire. She complained that she was expected to do an engagement after a heater had produced some smoke in room Archie was not in.

The podcast obviously has lots of mentions as they are being edited. Again, I am not saying she shouldn’t talk about it.

But to pretend she and Harry barely do, is completely untrue.

Roussette · 18/09/2022 07:42

Really odd that rather than just press the quote button, you selected a small part of my posts, cut and paste it to answer it

Because that was what I wanted to comment on? Are we not allowed to do that?

She didn’t just mention a nursery fire. She complained that she was expected to do an engagement after a heater had produced some smoke in room Archie was not in

Everyone knows that. I called it a nursery fire wrongly. I was just quickly referring to the incident in the nursery. You got me on that one! I should have said 'the nursery heater'

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 07:46

Hillcrest2022 · 18/09/2022 07:24

William and Kate have inherited the Duchy of Cirneall which I hear generates 1Billion a year. I appreciate it goes to tye Treasury.

Surely a big salary can be given to the Sussexes to avoid them needing to get income from Netflix, Spotify etc in return for their signature on NDAs. Why haven't they reached this agreement?

I don't like the Oprah interview and grubby tea-spilling interviews but that's their source of income. Equally, I don't like the media narrative that Meghan is the devil incarnate as that's pure bullying.

Are you seriously suggesting that the Duchy estate should pay H and M a salary to live abroad and do nothing for the Monarchy? The pair of them have enough money to retrain and get proper jobs as private citizens. They don’t need to live in luxury or fly around in private jets. That’s a choice. Meghan could go back to acting.
Its hardly fair that other working Royals are expected to contribute time and effort in return for their lives of luxury, whilst H and M would just be off the hook entirely in that scenario.

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 07:51

Roussette · 18/09/2022 07:42

Really odd that rather than just press the quote button, you selected a small part of my posts, cut and paste it to answer it

Because that was what I wanted to comment on? Are we not allowed to do that?

She didn’t just mention a nursery fire. She complained that she was expected to do an engagement after a heater had produced some smoke in room Archie was not in

Everyone knows that. I called it a nursery fire wrongly. I was just quickly referring to the incident in the nursery. You got me on that one! I should have said 'the nursery heater'

But you didn’t just comment on that part. That part was much larger.

You can do what you want and I can ask why. I can also draw the conclusions that the only point you could make was to attempt ‘yeah but they aren’t out yet’ which made no sense because I had already addressed it.

But it wasn’t a fire was and she didn’t just say ‘oh we once had a heater set on fire’ the point of the story was the pressure to continue working. So talking about her time in the RF. The whole point of her story was about the pressure to return to work just after. Her job in the Royal the family.

Not sure why you keep trying to down play it. I get supporting them, but pretending they aren’t doing things they are clearly doing isn’t needed to defend them.

Roussette · 18/09/2022 07:57

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 07:51

But you didn’t just comment on that part. That part was much larger.

You can do what you want and I can ask why. I can also draw the conclusions that the only point you could make was to attempt ‘yeah but they aren’t out yet’ which made no sense because I had already addressed it.

But it wasn’t a fire was and she didn’t just say ‘oh we once had a heater set on fire’ the point of the story was the pressure to continue working. So talking about her time in the RF. The whole point of her story was about the pressure to return to work just after. Her job in the Royal the family.

Not sure why you keep trying to down play it. I get supporting them, but pretending they aren’t doing things they are clearly doing isn’t needed to defend them.

I'm at a loss to understand what you want me to do.

If I quoted your whole post, I would be saying exactly the same. Rather than do that, I posted the part I wanted to answer.

You cannot police whether people press the 'quote' button or just bold and quote the bit they want to comment on. Sometimes posters write huge screeds and there's just one part that needs commenting on, so to make it clear to the original poster, a lot of people just highlight the bit that is relevant. I didn't realise it wasn't the thing to do... before MN changed that was the only way to quote and I'm obviously old school and occasionally do this. As do others.

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 08:04

At no point did I tell you what you could or couldn’t do: I asked a question. And I drew my own conclusion. Which I am allowed to do.

Which my conclusion is that you dislike that the original post I quote was incorrect. It’s not just one book. It wasn’t one Oprah interview.

So trying to make odd points and ignoring that I preempted that point, so you could have a response.

I get you are huge supported of them, but you are incorrect. It’s not one book. It not one interview and to pretend otherwise or polar down what was said is disingenuous.

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 08:07

Polar down? Play down 🙄

Farmerazza · 18/09/2022 08:11

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 07:34

Really odd that rather than just press the quote button, you selected a small part of my posts, cut and paste it to answer it.

Why would you take the longer route. So you could ignore that I also said that i didn’t take the post, to be saying already published and that I thought it was clear they were including future publishing. Why cut the part where I preempted that point?

Meghan talked about the situation in the cut interview and made some predications that wouldn’t have happened.

She has also said the Press called her child the N word in another interview.

She didn’t just mention a nursery fire. She complained that she was expected to do an engagement after a heater had produced some smoke in room Archie was not in.

The podcast obviously has lots of mentions as they are being edited. Again, I am not saying she shouldn’t talk about it.

But to pretend she and Harry barely do, is completely untrue.

She didn’t have an interview in SA - why are you lying? Whatever question she was asked was NOT about the RF - it was about HER. She was crying out for help.

The press did call her child the N word and worse! There was someone even showing a picture of a chimp. So she’s not allowed to speak about that?
Why don’t you give Meghan a list of acceptable topics she can discuss?

Roussette · 18/09/2022 08:13

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 08:04

At no point did I tell you what you could or couldn’t do: I asked a question. And I drew my own conclusion. Which I am allowed to do.

Which my conclusion is that you dislike that the original post I quote was incorrect. It’s not just one book. It wasn’t one Oprah interview.

So trying to make odd points and ignoring that I preempted that point, so you could have a response.

I get you are huge supported of them, but you are incorrect. It’s not one book. It not one interview and to pretend otherwise or polar down what was said is disingenuous.

OK. You have your opinion. I have mine. Please note I have quoted your whole post, hope that suits!

It's probably best we leave it there.

notanotheroneagain · 18/09/2022 08:13

Omid made it clear the first time he spoke to MM was on her last engagement. MM exclusively invited him and another person from Town and Country (who is not touted as her mouthpiece, even though it's clear she trusted the two, I wonder why that is).

Jason Knauf is the person he spoke to, who then assured the Sussexes that OS was a trustworthy reporter - turns out JK was actually slyly working against the Sussexes himself. He then went to court to reopen the case with irrelevant and incomplete 'evidence' just so he can trap MM into a technicality - he was employed by her, therefore she colluded with the book as she was the boss (even though she never actually met Scobie in person at that point). Hence the judge did not charge her with a perjury witch is a serious offence, but gave her a finger wagging of 'you must know better' type.
The only thing it proved was that unlike Bower and LadyC, OS did in fact go around collecting info from close sources as he had described.

There is no sequel out, nor have we seen Harry's book, so not sure why you are judging on things that have not happened, unless you come from the future.

Surely, talking about her scare of the fire and smoke ended up validating why she was upset in SA.

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 08:16

Roussette · 18/09/2022 08:13

OK. You have your opinion. I have mine. Please note I have quoted your whole post, hope that suits!

It's probably best we leave it there.

Yes, let’s. But I am glad you see how your original statement was incorrect

Roussette · 18/09/2022 08:17

Andromachehadabadday · 18/09/2022 08:16

Yes, let’s. But I am glad you see how your original statement was incorrect

No.

But if it makes you feel better you think that.

Hillcrest2022 · 18/09/2022 08:23

Are you seriously suggesting that the Duchy estate should pay H and M a salary to live abroad and do nothing for the Monarchy? The pair of them have enough money to retrain and get proper jobs as private citizens. They don’t need to live in luxury or fly around in private jets. That’s a choice. Meghan could go back to acting.

If I earned that sort of money and had a sibling born into this incredibly unusual scenario, yes I would. She can't realistically return to acting given her profile. They're trying to find a source of income. I'd share some of the wealth so they could get set up and not require Spotify contracts.

Let's be honest... William hasn't earned it either.

notanotheroneagain · 18/09/2022 08:36

EdieLedwell · 17/09/2022 18:47

I've been wondering about this all week.

What do people think? Would William want that ? Would Kate?

I don't think Harry would want that.

Not with how things are at the moment. The Heirs are still going by an old playbook of ruthlessly protect the monarchy at the expense of others. The spares and other members are viewed as commodities to be disposed of. Even HMQ struggled with the fine line between crown and family - hence a hard stand, followed by 'loved members' etc. Ultimately looking at it, the rules alway win over the humans, as if you say 'loved', you must also show 'love'. But the hard stance always won (stripping of this and that etc.).

My guess is what's frustrating is that the same people (HMQ and PC), did put their foot down when it came to 'love', just for their own selves. HMQ and PP marriage. PC, eventually marrying CPB, and convincing HMQ to change her mind about her queen status. So I can see why H feels, they can put their foot down for him too then.

Anyway, H&M are going back to the US. Will put their story across on the biography (why not everyone else has put H&M narrative out), and carry on with their MH and other causes they do.

SirChenjins · 18/09/2022 08:36

I doubt William would be that mad - supporters of the RF (and probably many like me who aren’t particularly royalist) would be up in arms about it. I don’t think H&M would settle for a handout either in return for Spotify silence, they want the freedom to do and say as they please.

susan12345678 · 18/09/2022 08:40

She can't realistically return to acting given her profile

plenty of actors have a much higher profile than Meghan Markle. I wouldn’t say it’s her ‘profile’ that would prevent a successful return to acting - unless she is just setting her sights on a cable drama, as before.

notanotheroneagain · 18/09/2022 08:55

It was rather silly for them to tell MM to carry on with acting when she joined the firm.

How does it practically work anyway. H is a senior working royal. So she must go over back to the US or Canada while he does his busy work here in the UK? She would not likely work here in the UK, as it's a different network, or else resentment of her using the RF to muscle in on etc.

Now, it looks like an idea to keep the couple apart and speed up a separation as long distance relationships hardly work if the couple only just met or married (works fine for long marrieds, I would imagine).

EdieLedwell · 18/09/2022 08:57

I wouldn't rule out Harry coming back to support his father, who is now King, at certain events, and if that went ok, bringing them slowly back into the fold.

The half in/half out could happen yet.

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