Will Charles attempt to bring H&M back?

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I've been wondering about this all week.

What do people think? Would William want that ? Would Kate?

its clearly a joke … H&M the clothes brand …

While I think that Meghan did look nervous and rightly so after all the half truths and outright lies she has told, i also think she is in a no win situation this week. If she shows her face she's slagged off for attention seeking etc and if she had got on a plane back to the USA she would have been slagged off for that as well!

Agree. She's not a demon ffs, she's a human and I am very uncomfortable with the narrative.

Who am I bullying? It's a cheap shop.

No he went home he came back with meghan for a few appointments in the UK he was offered a visit to his father (who was with his grandmother) but declined next thing we all know his grandmother is dead he can't leave before the funeral im thinking he will leave straight afterwards they will be missing their children

Sorry, I misinterpreted your comment.

How has he been treated ‘appallingly’?

Some might say he's only saying what his wife has told him to stay and she always looks bloody miserable to say she's meant to be happy!!!

See? This is what I'm taking about.

She does not 'always look miserable". Where are you getting this from? The poor woman can't win and it's horrible bullying.

I think it would have pleased The Queen greatly if there had been a reconciliation before she died and I am pretty sure Charles would like nothing better but how likely is it ? I simply cannot see Meghan wanting to live in the U.K. again . Possibly much will depend on what happens after the funeral regarding titles etc . If a newspaper report is correct , only working royals will be Counsellors of State , which makes sense but might be another blow to Harry .
Another report this morning is that George might go to the funeral . If so I imagine he will travel with Camilla and Catherine . Louise and James will travel with Sophie so who will Meghan travel with ?

Actually I agree . She is virtually always smiling . On the other hand Harry never seems to smile ( unless at polo) .

After the Queen's funeral and court mourning H&M will go back to US and their small children. There is talk that H&M want King Charles to do a Letters Patent making Archie and Lilibet Prince and Princess with HRH. In the paper it said King Charles won't be rushed and won't give his grandkids HRH as not working royals. H&M want the HRH for their kids because they think it will get them free security. I don't imagine King Charles would agree to that as their parents chose to leave UK. Prince William has offered olive branch to Harry but if he publishes book slagging off King Charles, Queen consort Camilla or Catherine, Princess of Wales I suspect he will be cut off.

@Readinginthesun Neither does William.
Maybe it is their upbringing in terms of how they see the media?

I thought it was established that the criteria for security in most cases is based on risk not titles ? It explains why Andrew still has security as I imagine a few people would harm him if they could .

Well , William was smiling a lot during his recent walkabouts . He is getting much better at engaging with the public .

Well that aged badly head-spiningly quickly
twitter.com/MasoodHashar/status/1571193973548392455?t=ApqIRTpRCYFtMQmfNzxctQ&s=19

Let's get rid of this shitshow 🙄

@Readinginthesun, in the Oprah interview Meghan said it was not about the title Prince but HRH for Archie would get them free security. They also pointed out Princess Beatrice and Princess Eugenie are both HRH. They don't get security but did up until they were 18.

Thank you !

All of the family are going through a very stressful time right now and we should give them space and grace despite the media history nonsense.

I hope they will all find peace and reconnect as a family without the world's attention on them.

Firstly , I think we can take a lot of what Meghan said in the OW interview with a very large pinch of salt !
Yes , B and E had security when they were younger however there was a review over 10 years ago which stopped automatic security and some royals ( Anne , Edward etc ) only have security whilst performing Royal duties . Only Charles , Camilla and the Wales family are automatically entitled to 24/7 security . Others ( Andrew) is on a case by case basis .
H and M cannot seriously believe that a team of Met officers can be on tap to guard a family who have shunned Royal life and live in California? I think it is called having g your cake and eating it .
If H and M returned to Royal life in the U.K. ( unlikely in my opinion - unless the money runs out) obviously it will be reassessed.

I think Meghan and Harry will.come to terms with not having security paid for of the level of the HRH's

Wouldn't it be lovely to see them having a happy family life back in California. I would love to see a stop to this relentless negative media against Meghan as it must be overwhelming for her ffs.

Meghan is why they can never be reconciled. Any info about the RF she can dig up or fabricate will go straight to Netflix or Oprah, make her a mint, and worsen relationships in the family. She just can't be trusted

Whilst I absolutely sympathise with both Meghan and Harry surrounding concerns for their safety and that if their children. Realistically what they are asking is just to great.

Both adults made the decision to move to the USA. Whatever the reasons behind that move, which I don't know because I don't know them, it still happened, they moved.

The British taxpayer and the metropolitan police simply can not fund or deliver such high level security in the USA.

UK police officers would have no powers in the US. They would all have to purchase US guns and register them as per state law, they would then have to carry them as per state law. And I don't think California is a conceal and carry state, I think it's an "open carry state" and then, even after all that they have no power of arrest or detainment. No authority.

You'd also basically be asking for met officers to do some sort of overseas tour. Now many of them have families of their own, your asking them to go to the US on extended tours away from their families, when they have no jurisdiction, no power of arrest, nothing. Just walk around all day with or without a gun.

So if the couple want security the only option really is a private US close protection company. Now would I be adverse to the RF paying out of their own private, rather deep pockets for H and M to have security not at all. But again this would have to be a private close protection company registered in the US.

She's a human being. She's not a demon ffs.

We all make mistakes - why be so cruel to her? I really find it disproportionate.

This probably reflects my thoughts.

Maybe things will change further along in time. At the moment, I think there’s too much pressure/interest which hinders anything happening genuinely.

There is hurt and anger on both sides - and neither side should be rushing to make a decision right now. Wishful thinking, but it would help if the press left this situation alone after the funeral.

I think crunch time will be around the release of H’s book.

My 2p:

1. Harry is not being punished around the uniform stuff - it's about being working/non working and showing the difference with William as a senior working royal

1. Harry is not being compared with Andrew per se. Both were working senior royals and are now not. The manner in how they stopped being senior working royals is very different and no one is comparing that however how that manifests - no uniforms, charities (under crown), what invited to is the same.

1. I don't agree with the suggestion that the RF use Harry as a scapegoat - all the endless stuff is from Harry's own actions (or his wife). There is nothing to say or only room to repeat and rehash old stuff if Harry/Meghan didn't keep doing interviews etc. this is also my frustration with the pro vs anti Harry/Meghan threads. While I have no time for the Meghan wears -gasp- red nail varnish nonsense , the critics do have new stuff to. Opine on because H & M provide that not the RF

1. The situation has moved on. Charles is now King and William PoW and this week the family have been across a lot of ceremonial vs private events, protocols etc. the ball is in Harry's court now I believe. What does he do next?

He may not be able to stop his book nor he may not want to of course - so then it's about what is new or hurtful in that book. If something new - it means he has held back stuff for over 2 years to then release to the public and may suggest an on going strategy (keep releasing snippets).

Also depends what if anything they divulge to the public/media about this week.

Ultimately it his is family and one assumes he still has love for them or some of them and therefore he'll want to be invited to future family events like his fathers coronation as well as Christmas etc (normal family things)

If he will be depends on him surely?