Will Charles attempt to bring H&M back?

[EdieLedwell]

I've been wondering about this all week.

What do people think? Would William want that ? Would Kate?

Agree another name change.

Also he is only doing what his parents have done re " sharing with the media" except he was a young child and probably at boarding school.

We forget they had so much to deal with even before the death. ..

Even Charles has critisied his family and school choices.

I don't think Charles will be able to build a bridge the Queen couldn't build. If they were going to come back they would have done before she died because he'd potentially have considered coming back for her.

I did wonder if all this might show them that they had the chance to do a lot of good in an institution which people revere, and which is loved around the world, in a way they will never be able to do in California. Though coming back would be difficult - our media would give them a hard time (some of it rightly) and they'd have to stop the books and the podcasts.

Oh don’t be ridiculous.

People will do as they are told. Look at Andrew, Fergie,, Charles, Camilla, Sophie.

Their PR machine is excellent.

I think as Harry gets older he will miss the UK and his family (maybe not so much W&C but who knows). Megan however only feels comfortable and at home in America and wants to be near her Mum and friends (understandable). For this reason I'm still not convinced they will be together forever.

You've been wondering about this all week, @EdieLedwell? Really?

Harry has just fallen out with his family.

eh? He voluntarily stepped back from royal duties. He no longer wanted to be a working royal. His family did not kick him out.

for what it’s worth I hope relations between Harry and the rest of the family are mended, but I can’t see them being back here on a permanent basis.

The issue is, whilst they’ve still got the podcast and netflix deals no one will want them around. They won’t want their lives becoming material.

Yes, he stepped back from royal life. So what?

My point was that, whatever he has done, it is not remotely comparable with what Andrew has done. Do you disagree?

Relations may heal. But H&M won’t be coming back.

They don’t want to be working Royals.
if they came back now, many people would be assuming that the Queen was the racist and the problem all along and that now she has gone, they are returning.

They can’t back track on what they have said about how badly they were treated ‘yeah my family are awful racists, but we are going back anyway’

Plus, how does Harry get out of the book deal? and while I have no personal issue with Megan, her earning value will drop if she stops giving info on the RF. I can see why she does it. But it’s not going to help reconciliation

They can’t even reconcile privately and definitely can’t come back if both H&M want to share information on the family.

Who wants a relative round that will then use the visit to make some money?

Exactly.

Charles is Harry’s father - Harry doesn’t want to come back, and Meghan could never fit into royal life. What kind of father would Charles be if he wanted them to be miserable?

He’s also the King, and regardless of the rights and wrongs, Harry and Meghan are a destructive force for the monarchy. it’s not possible to keep them close, so best to keep them at a distance. He has to protect the crown.

I’m sure he hopes for reconciliation eventually, but the only way that can be achieved is by time and everyone keeping a respectful distance while they build separate lives. Harry and Meghan we’re perfectly entitle to leave, and the rest of the family are now perfectly entitled and duty bound to crack on without them.

Yes 🤷‍♀️

He hasn’t been cast out, he wanted to go. He doesn’t want to be brought back in to the fold as he made clear in the Invictus interview. He’s built a new life and has his own family and good for him.

I’m sure there were wrongs on both sides, but leaving was absolutely his choice.

But now he has gone, and given a couple of pointed interviews with a book coming, there isn’t a way for him to come back.. at least not for decades.

They can slowly mend fences I am sure, but it will be as separate entities. It’s just life - they’re aren’t fairy take endings, and many things can’t be undone, but that’s not to say everyone won’t end up reasonably content eventually.

Anyone else thinking Oprah is rubbing her hands with glee for a part 2 of their interview? Also, have Meghan and Harry been taking notes as to who else has slighted them and why?

I can't worry about the RF when all over the UK families are struggling to heat their homes and feed their kids.

The RF have a fuck tonne of cash and Harry and Megan live a life the rest of us can only dream of.

Whatever the truth of the matter, I think Harry feels betrayed and unsupported by the rest of the family and William and Charles feel betrayed by Harry. I think both sides would only reconcile if there were heartfelt apologies from the other side plus a promise not to repeat past behaviour.

Basically, Harry wants an apology from William and Charles and an agreement not to deliberately trash Meghan in the press (I have no idea if William and Charles were briefing against her but I think Harry thinks they were). William and Charles want an apology from Harry and an agreement to fall into line.

As both sides think they are in the right and have no need to apologise, I don’t think a reconciliation is going to happen any time soon.

I tended to think Harry and Meghan were being unreasonable until William and Kate pulled that awful budget airline stunt when they deliberately got photographed on a budget airliner when M & H were being criticised for taking a private jet. I think Kate tends to go along with what William wants for a peaceful life so that means it was William’s decision to push a ‘bad Sussexes, good Cambridge’s’ narrative in the press. If he’d do it in public, I would guess he was doing worse in private.

Excellent post, I totally agree with this.

Oh god, really, does anyone care? Can we just be done with the whole lot now? The royal family is incredibly tedious

Apologies, just noticed this is on the RF board, I just saw it in trending. Yes people care, the people that post on here do. Heavens knows why, they don’t care for you, but hey ho.
As you were

Perhaps it’s what the people need.

I think not, they are independent adults financially secure and live in another country.

I think the ongoing angst is perceived as "good" for their brand

I think it is terribly sad that brothers can fall out when they were once so close. We have a situation in my wider family where it has happened, and although I'm slightly removed from it all, it has been really traumatic for the immediate family members. How anyone can cope when it is all played out in public with the eyes of the world looking their way - well, I have no idea.

I don’t think they’ll want to come back but it would be nice to think they could reconcile and H&M could enjoy a life that doesn’t involve slagging off their family on SM in order to make a few bucks and build their brand.

@SirChenjins
The royals are a family and the 'sovereign ' at the same time
They are an 'ordinary ' family when it suits them ( PR) and 'the crown ' when it suits them ( no inheritance tax , laws no applying etc)

This so not just a family bust up, don't pretend it is

Much more powerful forces are involved .

This.

Hopefully not. I personally think the interviews, tell alls and books are unforgivable. My family wouldn’t forgive that if it was done to us.