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Will Charles attempt to bring H&M back?

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EdieLedwell · 17/09/2022 18:47

I've been wondering about this all week.

What do people think? Would William want that ? Would Kate?

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Maireas · 18/09/2022 08:58

It wasn't silly. It was an option if they didn't want to jump right in to royal life.
HMQ offered them a quiet wedding and for them to have a low key start, if she wanted to carry on with her career, fine.
She wanted to hit the ground running. Her choice.

1994girl · 18/09/2022 09:05

Who cares?

Isaidnoalready · 18/09/2022 09:14

Readinginthesun · 18/09/2022 00:13

I think it would have pleased The Queen greatly if there had been a reconciliation before she died and I am pretty sure Charles would like nothing better but how likely is it ? I simply cannot see Meghan wanting to live in the U.K. again . Possibly much will depend on what happens after the funeral regarding titles etc . If a newspaper report is correct , only working royals will be Counsellors of State , which makes sense but might be another blow to Harry .
Another report this morning is that George might go to the funeral . If so I imagine he will travel with Camilla and Catherine . Louise and James will travel with Sophie so who will Meghan travel with ?

Yes but it cuts out Andrew

derxa · 18/09/2022 09:17

If you read the body language of the RF members when with H&M, there is no relationship. Everyone is very wary and playing along for the sake of the Queen's memory and also PR of course. It's very tense all round. What Charles thinks I've no idea. He probably wants to bang Harry and William's heads together and tell them to grow up.

SoyMarina · 18/09/2022 09:27

I doubt Charles wants to ‘bang their heads together ….’ as it’s not William who is causing continuous scandal.
I think his message was clear. He still loves Harry but has accepted that he has left the royal family as a working royal is more than happy for him to continue living his life in the US

notanotheroneagain · 18/09/2022 09:32

Maireas · 18/09/2022 08:58

It wasn't silly. It was an option if they didn't want to jump right in to royal life.
HMQ offered them a quiet wedding and for them to have a low key start, if she wanted to carry on with her career, fine.
She wanted to hit the ground running. Her choice.

Harry was already a senior working member of the RF when he got married. H&M seemed fine with the duties as far as I could see. They fulfilled them all. Then the smears got harder and harder, especially when she was pregnant - absolutely nothing from the RF, who had previously told the press to back off on other members and gave them support.

I don't know anything about HQM giving them an option of a quiet wedding, in fact, I remember differently. The narrative was that a big, uniting celebration is needed due to the Brexit divide.

Will Charles attempt to bring H&M back?
derxa · 18/09/2022 09:32

SoyMarina · 18/09/2022 09:27

I doubt Charles wants to ‘bang their heads together ….’ as it’s not William who is causing continuous scandal.
I think his message was clear. He still loves Harry but has accepted that he has left the royal family as a working royal is more than happy for him to continue living his life in the US

Fair enough but I think he would love them forgive and forget a bit. It's not good for people to live in bitterness.

SoyMarina · 18/09/2022 09:38

I agree drexa but William may be difficult and have all sorts of flaws but this fall out is all Harry and Meaghan ‘s doing.

Roussette · 18/09/2022 09:53

SoyMarina · 18/09/2022 09:38

I agree drexa but William may be difficult and have all sorts of flaws but this fall out is all Harry and Meaghan ‘s doing.

No. See notanotheroneagain last post

Not all their doing at all

CurrentHun · 18/09/2022 10:00

I don’t think that H&M should move back to UK unless they want to. But I think Charles should give them the Princes Trust to represent in a more hands on than figurehead way- and they would be good at that. H&M have an undeniable connection with younger people and that is their USP, leave aside all their California-styled well-being and mental health stuff which doesn’t translate so well over here.

Novella4 · 18/09/2022 10:09

@Hillcrest2022
"William and Kate have inherited the Duchy of Cirneall which I hear generates 1Billion a year. I appreciate it goes to the treasury "

This is incorrect . I realise you were probably using shorthand but the Duchy is state property while also being nominally 'crown' property (ie as a representation of the state .

We get what is left after Charles / William have taken what they consider to be ' expenses' ( some MPs have spent their career trying to get proper detail on this ) and after they pay rent to themselves. They keep 25% of the huge profits .
They also dont have to follow the law as applied to the rest of us regarding business / homes on this land .
Charles has been referring to the estate as 'private' which he was pulled up on but he ignored it .

https://www.taxpayersalliance.com/thesovereignngrantneedssarealityy_check

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/sep/09/duchy-of-cornwall-estate-worth-1bn-passes-to-prince-william

EdieLedwell · 18/09/2022 10:19

Let's not forget Harry will have inherited from Prince Phillip and he's about to inherit from HMQ. That will be a serious windfall, so they might not need to be in the pay of Netflix and Spotify.

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hewouldwouldnthe · 18/09/2022 10:25

No. He's made it quite clear their life is in America. I hope KC will slim down the monarchy, cut out the hangers on, pay more into the treasury and reduce the level of resentment felt by some younger people.

Arbesque · 18/09/2022 10:27

I imagine he would like to build bridges with Harry to the extent he can come back and forwards to the UK with the children with no animosity or tension.

But that really depends on whether Harry stops mudslinging from across the Atlantic.

hewouldwouldnthe · 18/09/2022 10:28

H&M will be there for the funeral and for the coronation. Following that I hope they bow out gracefully and stop trying to milk the royal connection for financial gain. They wanted to be independent. They will be living primarily on Harry's inheritance from his mother. It would be enough for life for most people, so they have no need to keep drawing on royalist connections. Hopefully KC will reduce all the titles and not saddle the children with titles.

Coronateachingagain · 18/09/2022 10:46

CurrentHun · 18/09/2022 10:00

I don’t think that H&M should move back to UK unless they want to. But I think Charles should give them the Princes Trust to represent in a more hands on than figurehead way- and they would be good at that. H&M have an undeniable connection with younger people and that is their USP, leave aside all their California-styled well-being and mental health stuff which doesn’t translate so well over here.

Can't have their cake and eat it, and get a well known charity patronage just because it suits their lifestyle or where they live.

Arbesque · 18/09/2022 10:54

Unfortunately I think Meghan's ship has sailed and she will never be welcomed by the Royal family. They'll tolerate her for the sake of Harry and the children and public opinion.

Maybe she cares, maybe she doesn't.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 10:57

Coronateachingagain · 18/09/2022 10:46

Can't have their cake and eat it, and get a well known charity patronage just because it suits their lifestyle or where they live.

It’s a UK charity! They live in the US and aren’t working Royals.

Maireas · 18/09/2022 10:58

CurrentHun · 18/09/2022 10:00

I don’t think that H&M should move back to UK unless they want to. But I think Charles should give them the Princes Trust to represent in a more hands on than figurehead way- and they would be good at that. H&M have an undeniable connection with younger people and that is their USP, leave aside all their California-styled well-being and mental health stuff which doesn’t translate so well over here.

The Prince's Trust has done excellent work - I was listening to Idris Elba and Joan Armatrading (and others) say how much it has helped young people from disadvantaged backgrounds.
However, it is UK based and used to occupy a lot of KC's time. I think it wouldn't be possible to do it in the USA on a part time basis.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 10:59

notanotheroneagain · 18/09/2022 09:32

Harry was already a senior working member of the RF when he got married. H&M seemed fine with the duties as far as I could see. They fulfilled them all. Then the smears got harder and harder, especially when she was pregnant - absolutely nothing from the RF, who had previously told the press to back off on other members and gave them support.

I don't know anything about HQM giving them an option of a quiet wedding, in fact, I remember differently. The narrative was that a big, uniting celebration is needed due to the Brexit divide.

Harry didn’t do any public engagements before he met Meghan though. He concentrated on his own charities but didn’t go out and open things or turn up in Slough on a rainy day.

SarahShorty · 18/09/2022 11:00

He may want to extend an olive branch to them, but it's not his decision. They're not working Royals anyway, so it's unlikely.

Viviennemary · 18/09/2022 11:00

No thanks. It would be a repeat of all the upset.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 18/09/2022 11:02

notanotheroneagain · 18/09/2022 08:55

It was rather silly for them to tell MM to carry on with acting when she joined the firm.

How does it practically work anyway. H is a senior working royal. So she must go over back to the US or Canada while he does his busy work here in the UK? She would not likely work here in the UK, as it's a different network, or else resentment of her using the RF to muscle in on etc.

Now, it looks like an idea to keep the couple apart and speed up a separation as long distance relationships hardly work if the couple only just met or married (works fine for long marrieds, I would imagine).

M was finished with Suits anyway by the point she met Harry. There was nothing to stop her working over here as an actress. They could have lived in the US from the off anyway. No one was forcing them to live here in the first place. It was their choice to be working Royals.

FrippEnos · 18/09/2022 11:08

I suspect that before any reconciliation takes place the RF will see what happens in the next interview/s and what Harry's book says about them.

verastan · 18/09/2022 11:11

Does anyone know where Archie and Lilibet are currently?

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