Why are H&M "less important" now?

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Let's not make this a bashing thread!
But in another thread yesterday it occured to me that the way I see it, I just get the sense that with the queens death they almost drop a rank. But that doesnt make sense? If anything shouldn't they now feel more important? Now that her majesty has gone it just feels like they become more distant somehow. Could it be to do with the passing of a generation, so they are no longer "the youth"?

By the way this isnt based on any facts or anything I've read, just a feeling on it. Can anyone explain? Am I right or wrong?

Where was the bullying? point it out exactly. I don't see anything but desperation to paint a black woman as an angry bully. Thankfully, most non racists will see right through it.

That’s quite an article.

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I agree with you that Meghans revelation about her "secret wedding" was designed to show contempt for the 1.9 billion plebs who unknowingly watched her £32M non wedding whilst believing it was a real wedding.
Meghan is unpopular with millions of people due to her appalling behaviour.

I know, painted the RF in a despicable light. I'm glad H&M escaped this.

Millions of people 😂

@Tadara, sorry I quoted the wrong message. I think the article clearly shows their shocking behaviour.

They fear her - she only has to breath and people are triggered. Even threads with nothing to do with H+M end up being about them. I wonder what it is about her they are so scared of.

Also, please what's shocking about that excerpt, I'm yet to get an answer. Wanting people to do their jobs well isn't cutting it for me.

The quoted words and stories told to the author of the book would definitely amount to conduct warranting an investigation for bullying and treating staff inappropriately at any workplace I have worked at (and, at one of them, my role included investigating, assessing and making recommendations when such complaints were made against people at the firm. There were an awful lot of complaints made following MeToo, so I have seen quite a lot of poor conduct in workplace settings..)

Where was the bullying? point it out exactly. I don't see anything but desperation to paint a black woman as an angry bully. Thankfully, most non racists will see right through it.

See my post above. I’m sure you know this, but people of all races and ethnic backgrounds are capable of treating people badly in the workplace.

I think it's really sad that the staff that H & M bullied didn't get the support they needed and the investigation findings were never published

There has been an investigation. The Palace buried it. Next!

I think it's said that H&M were also bullied and the investigation findings were buried. We should all start a petition, I want to see contents of the report too, I'm sure these quotes were provided by people who bullied Meghan too 😣

Does anyone else find it interesting that threads about William and Kate and the other royals don’t seem to gain much traction compared to those that focus on the Duke and Duchess of Sussex?

William and Kate toe the royal line and do exactly as they're supposed to do. They aren't controversial. They don't publish exposes, they don't go on Oprah, they don't express any opinions. There might be leaks in their favour, but they don't make any statements themselves.

What exactly is there to say?

Tadara, I'm really struggling to see how the Times article paints anyone other than Harry and Meghan in a bad light. Their behaviour seems pretty bad, and to have numerous people being so adversely affected by it, well, it's pretty telling.

The bit about the 'pretend' marriage - if it was important, spiritual, cultural, do you think they would have been happy with that alone. No, of course not - they would have recognised the requirement for an actual, you know, marriage. It's the way Meghan spoke about this exchange of vows that's so, well, pathetic really. She knows it wasn't their marriage. If she'd framed it as a private moment to express their love and commitment, no issue, but the 'ha, gotcha, plebs' is pretty distasteful.

The Kardashians get a lot of 'traction' on social media.

I wouldn't say that makes them 'important' other than as gossip fodder.

Absolutely agree with this.

Where is this from?

There has been an investigation. The Palace buried it. Next!

No - the Palace buried the original complaint made against Meghan by Jason Knauf.

The staff impacted by this blew the whistle on this breach of employment law by the Palace to the Times newspaper.

Following the outcry the Times article caused when published Palace started an investigation into whether their HR processes were adequate. The outcome of that report has not been published, other than to say that it has concluded and its ‘recommendations' will be taken forward.

I just see more people ganging up to bully Meghan some more. A desperately sad situation. I can't wait to hear Harry's side.

She's also American. Probably not as hung up on the term as you lot seem to be

yes, we know it shows cultural ignorance. That’s well established. She should have taken a bit more time and effort to learn about the country she was getting married in.

but let’s not forget that this is an educated woman, in her thirties who has been married once already.

It’s more than a little disingenuous to suggest that she does not know fine well what “marriage” and “wedding”. Specially as the Archbishop stated he had several pre wedding meetings with them. It would be astonishing if he had not gone over the service and what it means.

I think it's said that H&M were also bullied and the investigation findings were buried.

Certainly never seen that said anywhere myself. Harry and Meghan certainly said on Oprah that the Palace wasn’t “protecting” them, but there has never been any indication that any investigation was taking place, or was warranted.

I will be buying Harry's book - I hope he tells everything

Has not been published. In other words buried.

Why don't they release it?

These people are happy to talk to Low, surely they won't mind the report being released.

I think we've heard Harry and Meghan's side numerous times haven't we!

Valentine Low's new book. It's another Harry and Meghan bash fest.

How sick is it that Harry was worried about a meeting being leaked and it ended up in a book, just like he feared.