Why are H&M "less important" now?

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Let's not make this a bashing thread!
But in another thread yesterday it occured to me that the way I see it, I just get the sense that with the queens death they almost drop a rank. But that doesnt make sense? If anything shouldn't they now feel more important? Now that her majesty has gone it just feels like they become more distant somehow. Could it be to do with the passing of a generation, so they are no longer "the youth"?

By the way this isnt based on any facts or anything I've read, just a feeling on it. Can anyone explain? Am I right or wrong?

Meghan wanted inpatient treatment though? which is why they needed the RFs help/permission. Access to therapy was never the issue, she wanted something more intense.

The Duchess of Kent, then a full time working royal, was admitted to hospital for seven weeks of treatment and supervised rest in the late 1970s after experiencing a full-term still birth of her son Patrick. She has spoken openly of the depression she suffered, and the help she needed.

In-patient treatment would not have been an issue.

I guess that actors/celebrities tell porkies or are rather economical with the truth much of the time. The studios used to have powerful publicity machines to rose-tint their stars and nowadays too publicists/pr firms oil their clients’ paths.

I suppose Meghan was not expecting forensic scrutiny and criticism of her every move or the delving into her background. Or else, as a pp observed, she thrives on the attention, even if negative

Very few people today receive long term in-patient treatment for suicidal thought/ideation. (blame NHS funding)

Normally it's admitted to a psychiatric ward for for review and care planing, then discharge to community under CMHT and Crisis Team management. Crisis management in 7 days.

Most suicidal presentation patients get like 24hour hold sometimes 48 to be honest. I've known a few in our area get a 2 week hold.

Then they are surprised when they are back 3/4 weeks later 🤦🏻‍♀️🙄

But that's a whole other thread to be honest 😂

@CaptainBarbosa I can't imagine Meghan would be going anywhere near a NHS hospital for MH support.

Harry and Meg had enough contacts and spare change to go private.

You would be lucky to be in hospital that long. Anyone in A+E will attest to this.

So Meghan said she wanted more intense treatment? Can a Psychologist confirm what this would be please?

When did she say that her wedding wasn't real? Can someone clarify please?

Wait, so they had a simple marriage ceremony three days before the public one?

True.

I mean who knows though, I wasn't there 🤷🏻‍♀️😂

Yes, the Archbishop of Canterbury presided over it.

Can a Psychologist confirm what this would be please?

Not a psychologist, but I assume somewhere like The Priory is what people were thinking of as a more likely option for someone high profile than an NHS hospital (I am assuming you have heard of them - they are a private chain of mental health and addiction recovery centres, with a long reputation of being the choice of various celebrities who have needed help and treatment).

It wasn't a marriage ceremony. It was a private exchange of vows with no legal significance. We did see them get married.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=YG5dS_uRzJU

Here you go

According to Meghan, they did.

the problem is that this reveals her cultural ignorance of the UK, where you need a wedding licence which must state the date and place. Where weddings must be witnessed by two people other than the couple and celebrant.

she also implicated the Archbishop of Canterbury. If true, he would have been committing by officiating at a wedding that did not comply with the law. He had to issue a denial that any such wedding took place.

Meghan never said her wedding wasn't real though, just that they had a private ceremony before.

And be found out? NDAs would have been required which goes back to requiring the Palace's input. She couldn't do it without their agreement.

No, he made it clear he did no such thing

“I signed the wedding certificate, which is a legal document, and I would have committed a serious criminal offence if I signed it knowing it was false,”

Actually a good number of patients at the Priory and other similar private Hospitals are NHS patients. We just don't have the provision or beds on the NHS. Suicidal patients are usually sent home most of the time.
Psych provision in the community is quite poor in the UK . . .
I suppose they should have supported her and stood up for her in the first place and allowed her permission to seek medical help as she clearly needed it.

Come please quick, Meghan is blinking again, why is she blinking like that?

Her words were: "Three days before our wedding, we got married."

No, she said they 'were married' 3 days previously, not simply that they had a 'private ceremony'. That's a very specific claim, and a false one.

She described the expensive wedding she seemed to very much enjoy as a 'spectacle', thereby implying that the 'real' wedding took place 3 days previously.

What she said was
“three days before our wedding we got married. We called the archbishop and we just said, look, this thing, this spectacle is for the world, but we want our union between us“

couldnt be much clearer.

Medical staff, whether they work in private or public institutions, are legally required to maintain strict confidentiality about their patients. So I'm not sure why you think NDAs would have been required.

Hoy Granny Meg needs a wee stay in the Priory is that OK?

And actually I'm sure somewhere like the Priory are already very aware that patients need and deserve confidentiality like patients everywhere.

And rather insulting given the public funding, support and goodwill that surrounded it.

Why did she tell us about the private ceremony at all? Why did we need to know?

Spite.

“We called up the Archbishop…..”

“Just the two of us in our backyard with The ArchBishop of Canterbury”