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Feel sorry for Harry walking behind the Queens coffin

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FayeGovan · 14/09/2022 11:29

It must be very triggering for him, i feel for him.

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antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:20

@ajandjjmum How do you know? They did not do engagements on Thursday so you do not know. Only what was publicly announced ahead of time.
But fine. They could have rushed up there. Charles could have rushed down to meet them. Maybe neither wanted to meet up. Maybe Harry did not want to see his father. Maybe Harry had planned some private visits to other friends or family already.
Why does it matter? Their relationship is obviously fraught. Lots of adults and parents have a fraught relationship. Sometimes temporary, sometimes long term. That is up to them to negotiate.

Saucery · 14/09/2022 19:31

She looks pretty overwhelmed tbh. Hitching her shoulders at the start of that video and I think she goes over to where her back will be to the cameras.
Man’s an arrogant pig, but I really can’t see anything untoward about him consoling her.

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 19:32

Their programme was well publicised in advance. Three engagements over four days. If they had chosen, they could have slotted in a visit with Charles at some point, or seen him over the previous weekend.

You're right though - it's if they wanted to. But then don't be full of support and honour when he becomes King, if you couldn't be bothered the previous week.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:39

@ajandjjmum You have a very strange attitude. Couldn't be bothered. How do you know this? How do you know all the motivations as to why Harry did not meet with his father?
Why do you think Harry should visit Charles at his house and Charles should not have to visit Harry? Maybe more neutral ground would be better but that would mean Charles and Harry having to travel.
You know about their public engagements in London and Germany but not private engagements.
I really do not understand people who think they know the motivations and ins and out of strangers lives. Or who care.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:40

Saucery · 14/09/2022 19:31

She looks pretty overwhelmed tbh. Hitching her shoulders at the start of that video and I think she goes over to where her back will be to the cameras.
Man’s an arrogant pig, but I really can’t see anything untoward about him consoling her.

I can as can others. But up to you.

MarshaMelrose · 14/09/2022 19:42

Onprozacandmyhighhorse · 14/09/2022 17:03

@antelopevalley , I'm not wrong. Charles told Sir Robert Fellowes he could "impale himself on his own flagpole" because the Queen and her advisers wanted Diana to rest in a private funeral home and Charles wanted her to be taken to a royal palace. This argument took place before he even left for Paris so within hours of her death.
If you look at pictures of her coffin leaving the hospital in Paris it is draped in the Royal Standard. It had nothing to do with the public.

I remember the coffin being put on the plane, covered in the Royal standard and Prince Charles overseeing ut and even the tv commentators were saying that Prince Charles had argued with the Queen and got his way. But of course, its always been fashionable to hate and ridicule Prince Charles so people chose to believe Charles Spencer when he implied that Charles would be an inadequate father so her blood family would take care of the children. Then he buggered off back to South Africa. 🙄

Nanny0gg · 14/09/2022 20:04

8misskitty8 · 14/09/2022 18:41

So what ? Zara and Mike were also holding hands.

And being old fashioned, I don't think they should have been. This was a formal occasion.

bellac11 · 14/09/2022 20:10

Im amazed that someone is making that allegation about Prince Andrew Ive watched that video and there is nothing untoward

Also nothing disrespectful about holding hands walking out of a church for goodness sake, never heard anything like it.

smilesy · 14/09/2022 20:11

And being old fashioned, I don't think they should have been. This was a formal occasion

Agreed. I am not against holding hands. I do it with my husband quite often 😂. But there is a time and a place, and this was not it but draws attention away from what is happening during a solemn occasion. Although I too have my suspicions that neither Meghan or Zara can walk properly in heels.

Saucery · 14/09/2022 20:13

I can as can others. But up to you.
Indeed. Smile

I’m not that arsed really, that our interpretations differ. It doesn’t make either of us ‘wrong’ as such. Gotta love online discourse…..

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 14/09/2022 20:21

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 19:16

@Mookie81 This is the full video of the Royals looking at the flowers.

He had his arm on Eugenie's waist! Nowhere near anybody's arse...unless the Royals are physically different to the plebs.

Novum · 14/09/2022 20:29

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 17:32

Last Wednesday Harry was flying up to Balmoral.
The Queen died before his final charity event.

When he decided not to stay after the last charity event to meet his father, he obviously didn't know she was going to die.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 20:35

I assume not as not all her children were there.

SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 20:38

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 14/09/2022 20:21

He had his arm on Eugenie's waist! Nowhere near anybody's arse...unless the Royals are physically different to the plebs.

Where's your waist?

Feel sorry for Harry walking behind the Queens coffin
SleepingStandingUp · 14/09/2022 20:40

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 14/09/2022 20:21

He had his arm on Eugenie's waist! Nowhere near anybody's arse...unless the Royals are physically different to the plebs.

Close up. That hand is Andrews.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 14/09/2022 20:44

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 14/09/2022 20:21

He had his arm on Eugenie's waist! Nowhere near anybody's arse...unless the Royals are physically different to the plebs.

Have you seen the clip? Ita actually quite disgusting - he strokes her all the way down her back, onto her bottom and then doesn't take his hand away until after he has gone all the way down.

vm.tiktok.com/ZMNE3vkFu/

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 14/09/2022 20:44

Oh, Ok a little odd when paused like that, but I'm not convinced you can say it's nefarious

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 14/09/2022 20:48

Based on the Tiktok He's not groping her. His arm dropped as he bent down. His hand was not cupping her arse or anything. Surely we can see that is a parent and child interaction. I stroke DD 5's back like that if I'm needing to move round her.

inkworks273 · 14/09/2022 20:49

"I have read that he was offered one seat on the flight that was going from Northolt with other members of the family, but wanted one for Meghan too. The deliberations meant that the flight was around an hour late taking off for Aberdeen."

Where did you read this @ajandjjmum ?

BellePeppa · 14/09/2022 21:16

ajandjjmum · 14/09/2022 18:36

I genuinely hope that the situation will have confirmed to Meghan and Harry that they have made the right decision for themselves.

With regard to uniforms, I would have loved DH to wear his officer's uniform at our wedding, but as he had already left the Navy after 8 years service, it wasn't allowed. Why should anyone else been treated differently?

Nothing wrong with them wanting out but they need to shut up about their gripes now and start to look forward not backwards.

BellePeppa · 14/09/2022 21:27

upinaballoon · 14/09/2022 16:09

YES, Your point about the press deflecting is a good one.

More recently, I don't actually recall H and M implying that all of the British people were toxic and racist, during the OW interview. Harry certainly said the press was toxic. Anyone can correct me if I have it wrong, but I think the press deflected that one, too.

It is astonishing how the Queen was regarded in some quarters in that crazy week, and how she is regarded now. She wasn't thought a villain by everyone that week, but they would have been shouted down at the time.

I do remember some years before he met Meghan (oh those glory days!) when he was in the army, he said he didn’t like the UK. I thought that was pretty crass.

TrashyPanda · 14/09/2022 21:32

stuntbubbles · 14/09/2022 12:22

You don’t think walking behind a coffin in front of enormous crowds with the world’s media trained on you, at a formative age, might embed in your memory in such a way that walking behind a coffin in front of enormous crowds with the world’s media trained on you, and now with the added baggage of the past few years, would be triggering?

Prince Philip had to walk behind the coffin of his favourite sister, her husband and their two young children, all killed in a tragic accident, when he was 16. Making things even worse, her unborn baby also died.

he was a man who endured much and I think he did his best to help his grandsons, because he knew exactly what it was like.

OhTheLeetleHandsAndFeetle · 14/09/2022 21:34

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PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 14/09/2022 21:36

@OhTheLeetleHandsAndFeetle Couldn't agree more.

nocoolnamesleft · 14/09/2022 21:37

He wasn't in uniform. So holding hands is fine.