Harry should be allowed to wear military uniform

[AliceMcK]

Regardless of what anyone thinks of him or him no longer being a senior working Royal he should be fully entitled to wear his military uniform. He fought on the front line, he’d would have stayed in the army if the press hadn’t put him and other soldiers at risk, he has done so much for veterans, far more than anyone else in the royal family. His military uniform was earned not bestowed on him as an honorary title, yet he’s not allowed to wear it to his grandmothers funeral.

Comparing harry and Andrew is nonsensical. They both have behaved badly but Andrew is the queens son and as such deserves to be there in ceremonial dress. Yes he is sleazy and this is likely his last public appearance but it's his mothers funeral ffs

Why do you care @AliceMcK ?

They could quite easily fudge this by saying that in this instance (as he is walking behind the Queen with his brother and father) he is a working Royal (which to be fair he is) and therefore an exception has been made. And because he is walking behind the coffin that is different to events he has attended.

Ffs he's not working he's attending his grandmothers funeral!

Shall we commission Peter Phillips on the same basis?

I don't know what to make of Harry a lot of the time; but my loathing of Andrew is visceral. I don't imagine I'm unique in that respect.

We don't know the ins and outs. Harry is a retired captain, so would have had to request permission to wear one from the regiment. He's a retired captain technically. The regiment may have said no, you just don't know. May have nothing to do with the palace.

Andrew also is a retired vice admiral, a bit of a difference in rank there. As it's his mother's funeral he may have been granted permission, but vice admiral very rarely need permission for anything retired or serving.

Lol

And the military want Andrew?

Come off it

It's not personally against him. It's just protocol "It's not a dress up costume but a uniform held for his current military position not his past exploits in the army. He doesn't have military position or rank as the other royals do so he can't wear a uniform."

Just like his kids not being prince and princess whilst the queen was alived. MM made a fuss over it, despite saying she didn't want to be part of the royal thing and milking it for every dollar she can get - that was due to the way things were set up and her little ones can now be showed off and used for money as little prince and princess (puke bucket)

I'm going to guess they probably don't, but in the 22 years he served he became a vice admiral, not much they can do about it 🤷🏻‍♀️

The royals decided in this .

The Queen gave Andrew the rank of Vice-Admiral for his birthday. He didn't earn it in any normal way (like Tim Laurence, say, did).

And if it was in the gift of the military or Andrew himself ,why wasn't he wearing it in Edinburgh?

Because whatever is going on behind the scenes the royals have permitted this

Terrible decision

I agree the optics are horrific, but if like what many have said HM The Queens wishes were Andrew to don a uniform for the vigil well, it is what it is.

One can only hope he will be in mourning dress for everything else.

I don’t really see why Harry couldn’t wear it, but it may have to do with the fact they might not want Andrew in it? He’s also served so it’s not fake but obv he has done some bad shit since.

You may be right but in the context of this thread it doesn't matter, he holds the rank.

I think @CaptainBarbosa has summed up the possible logic behind this quite well...though again is it worth pointing out that neither A or H are supposedly going to be wearing uniform for the funeral itself.

A only gets to wear it for the vigil....

I don't think it matters if it was queens wish or shenanigans behind the scenes
Bad judgment is bad judgment

Agree. And not letting him do it makes Charles seem petty as opposed to gracious.

There are strict protocols for wearing uniform and I don't think it's petty that they are adhered to. His ceremonial dress he isn't entitled to wear anymore as he isn't a working royal, wearing the standard uniform he wouldn't be permitted to do for a funeral. He isn't being denied wearing it, he's just not having the rules bent for him which is fair enough.

Also hate having Harry and Andrew lumped together — as if stopping being a working royal is roughly the same as settling sexual abuse allegations.

Also, I think Harry left the military as a major and squadron leader, according to various sources I've just been reading. Those were his earned ranks, not the honorary ones that were later taken away from him.

I think the protocol is for him to ask some senior regimental bod for permission to wear a suitable dress uniform (and sword?) but the request would land up on Charles's desk anyway.

Precisely.....

Thank you
i am really uncomfortable with them lumping Harry and Andrew together

Off topic but is it true that Charles has appointed Andrew to step in if he Charles ,
is incapacitated??

No doubt 'line of succession ' 'protocol' blah blah
They've had years to prepare .
Who on earth is advising them

Excuse the language but you are fecking kidding me?

The jackets covered in fake medals nonsense is a great symbol for the superficiality of monarchy which we are all supposed to kowtow before. Ooh look at the shiny medals, how brave, rich and majestic and powerful they must be.

“And thank you for your duty to our nation m’lord, would his majesty care to rest his feet open my back? oh you have a small scuff mark on your shoe m’lady, it would truly be my greatest honour if I could bend down and remove it with my tongue. Slurp slurp slurp!”