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Harry should be allowed to wear military uniform

204 replies

AliceMcK · 13/09/2022 23:08

Regardless of what anyone thinks of him or him no longer being a senior working Royal he should be fully entitled to wear his military uniform. He fought on the front line, he’d would have stayed in the army if the press hadn’t put him and other soldiers at risk, he has done so much for veterans, far more than anyone else in the royal family. His military uniform was earned not bestowed on him as an honorary title, yet he’s not allowed to wear it to his grandmothers funeral.

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nachoavocado · 14/09/2022 07:48

maranella · 14/09/2022 07:30

I also think it's petty and will just stoke Harry's (already considerable) feelings of grievance against his family. The fact that Andrew, who is disgraced and has also been stripped of his honorary military titles, will be allowed to wear uniform for one part of the mourning, will make Harry even more angry. If I were the RF, I wouldn't be giving him anything else to be furious about, as they still have plenty to lose and this is a small thing for them, but a huge thing for Harry.

TBH, I find it rather sad that the two members of the RF who have actually seen active service (whatever else they've done or not done in their lives), are the two who aren't allowed to wear uniform.

We have no idea how Harry feels about it

lemmein · 14/09/2022 07:49
Grin
Harry should be allowed to wear military uniform
Novella4 · 14/09/2022 07:49

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 13/09/2022 23:18

He went to a Disney premiere instead of the military function he had booked for. He didn’t want the Army then.

Really ? How disgraceful!

That's far worse than getting mummy to pay off your accuser and dodging the FBI!

Another misstep from the royals . One a day at this stage

ohfook · 14/09/2022 07:49

Yes he definitely should. There is only one royal who would bring shame on the uniform if he wears it and it's not Harry.

nachoavocado · 14/09/2022 07:50

lemmein · 14/09/2022 07:49

Grin

What did he get his medals for?

workiskillingme · 14/09/2022 07:51

Pretty much

Harry should be allowed to wear military uniform
MaggieFS · 14/09/2022 07:54

I have no idea of the etiquette with regards to former soldiers but both he and Andrew should be entitled to whatever that is.

As non-working Royals with titles removed, neither should wear anything of a high, honorary rank.

And both should be treated equally.

LittleBearPad · 14/09/2022 07:56

They are being treated equally.

Neither will wear uniform at the funeral. The only time Andrew will is at the vigil when Harry won’t be there.

lemmein · 14/09/2022 07:57

What did he get his medals for?

@nachoavocado standing nicely probably Grin

Novella4 · 14/09/2022 07:57

So not equal

mpsw · 14/09/2022 08:01

lemmein · 14/09/2022 07:57

What did he get his medals for?

@nachoavocado standing nicely probably Grin

He has campaign medal for Afghanistan, and Jubilee medals

That's a fairly similar set to many serving personnel of that era

ThickCutSteakChips · 14/09/2022 08:01

Novella4 · 14/09/2022 07:57

So not equal

Why isn't Harry going to be at the vigil? Because he isn't one of the queen's kids, or because he left the Royal family?

Either way it would explain why they are not being treated 'equally?

Novella4 · 14/09/2022 08:02

They obviously think they've come up with a cunny plan to explain it away

They haven't

LittleBearPad · 14/09/2022 08:02

Because none of the grandchildren will be at the vigil. It’s the children only

Novella4 · 14/09/2022 08:03

Andrew is allowed access to the dressing up box

Harry isn't .

Another mistake

LittleBearPad · 14/09/2022 08:04

So it isn’t anti-Harry. His brother and cousins won’t be there either

nachoavocado · 14/09/2022 08:04

mpsw · 14/09/2022 08:01

He has campaign medal for Afghanistan, and Jubilee medals

That's a fairly similar set to many serving personnel of that era

Ah right didn't know he was involved in Afghanistan.

I'm sure they had a reason to give Edward medals otherwise they wouldn't have.

Quartz2208 · 14/09/2022 08:05

They could quite easily fudge this by saying that in this instance (as he is walking behind the Queen with his brother and father) he is a working Royal (which to be fair he is) and therefore an exception has been made. And because he is walking behind the coffin that is different to events he has attended.

And I think if it were just Harry they would - they wont because of Andrew. Which will simply fuel it even more.

mpsw · 14/09/2022 08:08

Novella4 · 14/09/2022 08:03

Andrew is allowed access to the dressing up box

Harry isn't .

Another mistake

Retired officers of rant Lt Col and above can wear uniform one retired (plus a badge to show that they are retired, not allowed to pass themselves off as still serving)

Andrew retired from active duty as a Commander (Lt Col equivalent)

He must be desperate to be in that uniform though, because wearing uniform post-retirement is usually seen as a bit naff

Luredbyapomegranate · 14/09/2022 08:09

I hear you, but I don’t think he can. He’s no longer in the military so he doesn’t have the right to wear whatever his old dress uniform was, and he doesn’t have an honorary title because he left the RF.

It does seem unfair but I don’t think there’s a way round it.

mpsw · 14/09/2022 08:12

nachoavocado · 14/09/2022 08:04

Ah right didn't know he was involved in Afghanistan.

I'm sure they had a reason to give Edward medals otherwise they wouldn't have.

It's Harry's medals that include Afghanistan

Edward's are all Jubilee ones, I think

Haven't checked Andrew, but I expect it's Falklands plus Jubilee.

Just to confuse, some Orders are worn on the medal rack, as are certain foreign awards (where monarch has approved generally, such as UN medals, or specifically, such as a Chevalier du Legion d'Honneur) so not everything on the chest is a military medal

Luredbyapomegranate · 14/09/2022 08:12

Quartz2208 · 14/09/2022 08:05

They could quite easily fudge this by saying that in this instance (as he is walking behind the Queen with his brother and father) he is a working Royal (which to be fair he is) and therefore an exception has been made. And because he is walking behind the coffin that is different to events he has attended.

And I think if it were just Harry they would - they wont because of Andrew. Which will simply fuel it even more.

No they can’t.

His honorary titles were removed when he left. They can’t give them back for a day.

Going to the funeral does not make him a working royal, any more than it does Princess Anne or Prince Andrew’s children.

KingstonLane · 14/09/2022 08:12

There are rules to follow. Rules don't change to ‘fit the person’, that is the whole point, objective and applied consistently.

These decisions about who wears what will be rules, traditions, formality, policy - whatever we call them. They don't change just because of one person.

There is no indication that Harry has expressed any view on this. He will know he has to follow the rules.

None issue.

SpinCityBlues · 14/09/2022 08:13

AliceMcK · 13/09/2022 23:19

@Surtsey apparently uniform, including Andrew.

This is the real problem, isn't it? Andrew parading about in his Vice-Admiral's uniform (the rank being a birthday present from the Queen, I believe), while Harry is not permitted to wear his former uniform as an army major.

I don't think it's a good decision by Charles. Up to him though - but he maybe needs to recognise how much a lot of people despise Andrew.

nachoavocado · 14/09/2022 08:13

mpsw · 14/09/2022 08:12

It's Harry's medals that include Afghanistan

Edward's are all Jubilee ones, I think

Haven't checked Andrew, but I expect it's Falklands plus Jubilee.

Just to confuse, some Orders are worn on the medal rack, as are certain foreign awards (where monarch has approved generally, such as UN medals, or specifically, such as a Chevalier du Legion d'Honneur) so not everything on the chest is a military medal

Ah I get you sorry.