What now for M&H

[OliviaBean]

I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

They need to go on a charm offensive and M&H would be perfect.

Why would they be perfect? They evidently wanted be free from the royal family so struggling to see how they would be good ambassadors for it. Oh we hated it and don't want to be part of it but yeah you should all vote to stay part of the commonwealth!

You're right of course -who knows ? I shouldn't make assumptions from one short clip .

You missed the earlier years for Camilla then

And the 'Duchess of Pork' wasn't far behind (before, during and after her marriage break up)

I'm not saying it's right.

Just that it's not unique,

@AngelicaElizaAndPeggy not made up at all, its my hometown. Also if you watch the footage from different media outlets then you will see what im saying is completely true.

Utter bollocks. People just lie and lie.

I'd like to think they'll go back to the US, realising that life is short and family is important. I'd hope they'll ensure their kids know their extended family back in the UK. Mostly I'd like never to have to hear another snipe about the RF from either of them. I would be interested to see them progress from there.

I think there has to be some consequences for how these two have behaved. They caused huge stress to the Queen at a time when she was obviously very ill and also declined her invitation to Balmoral.
It's unfortunate that some of the people who didn't want to shake hands with H&M are being pilloried as the public don't have to fawn over the royals. These people were there to pay respects to the Queen not to provide photo opportunities for her errant grandson and spouse.

I saw someone ignore her, then go ahead and film her, weirdo behaviour. Good thing Meghan didn't have to interact with whoever that was.

This, sadly, I think is spot on.

PLEASE. People have the right to ignore Meghan, it's the theatrics we find utterly stupid. Don't extend your hand and don't make eye contact, fine. Meghan moves on to people who actually want to say hello, the creep then starts to film her and the other one giving her looks.

H and M need to stop whining and moaning. Making up lies about what has happened to them.

Markle saying she didn’t have an input in to the recent book, stating that Archie wouldn’t get a title because he was mixed race, mixed race comes up again and again and again when she wants to close a conversation down. And most unforgivably stating that someone had made a ‘racist’ comment. Wouldn’t say what it was and who said it. Really really unforgivable.

I suspect the Harry book is too far down the line to cancel it. It would be a start if they did that.

@Meanderings just because it doesn't fit your view of things it doesn't mean im lying!! What would I gain by lying? Im just telling you what i saw, not my problem if you can't accept it.

I think they’ll continue to be happy with their life bringing up their children, living much like they are now. And people will continue to make things up about them and repeat shit they’ve heard from other stupid people with an agenda. Same shit, different day.

Harry doesn't have issues.

Harry realised what they did to his mother and what they were doing to him and finally woke up.

I just don't believe you but like you say, it's not your problem.

The best thing they could do is return to the US after the funeral and just get on with their lives with no more throwing the RF under the bus. It would look pretty ridiculous now after the King professing his love for them and them joining W&K for the walkabout. Time to put the conflict to bed.

I wouldn’t choose to stand in the crowd waiting for them to honour us with their presence. I wouldn’t shake their hands. Not after all the things they have done.

I also think Kate was raging with William for inviting them along but I think good on William, it shows leaderships and strength.

Kate needs to develop much greater confidence and be less insecure public school girl and more future Queen.

Maybe an opportunity for a reset. He's in his 70s and all the commonwealth nations will be reevaluating their relationship with Britain. They need to go on a charm offensive and M&H would be perfect.

Ugh how patronising to commonwealth nations to suggest that a mixed race Californian ex soap star is what is needed to charm them.

Meghan does not fit the bill of a royal wife as she isn't deferential to more senior royals and everything is in service to herself promoting herself and the Sussex brand not in service to others. That is not how the RF operate in the public eye. Meghan can't know this as the whole idea of royals must be utterly alien to her. She grew up around aspiring film stars.

Meghan is the most self assured out of them the 4 it's all rather interesting and we shall see what they decide to do.

Kate needs to develop much greater confidence and be less insecure public school girl and more future Queen.

You're just making things up here . She was fine.

They'll be ok income-wise. Not sure they'll last as a couple though. She appeared too clingy yesterday and he looked a bit embarrassed. Also they both looked like people who feel like they are disliked by most, which can't be good for your mental health.

William is such a pro at getting good PR. He doesn't appear as a very genuine guy, tbh. Unlike him, Kate didn't engage with H+M unnecessarily without being rude, yesterday. She got the right balance of no drama/ no playing up for the cameras.

I imagine Charles will mess up things pretty soon, the M will be abolished, and all the family will spend their fortunes away from the limelight.
Bet they all had enough of being in the public eye.

Honestly some of this conversation sounds deranged.

it is like Brexit. Frothing about an enemy and cutting our own nose

we don’t really need a RF as an internal feature, our democracy can function just fine without any HoS.

we pay them the big bucks to keep UK relevant and use their soft power (and that’s why Charles made so many references to the international and CW community).

And the king’s son and mixed race DIL acrimonious leaving is a blow.
Look at how Wills and Kate’s international tour went...

I was on the long walk and I get why she looked so anxious. There were a few boos and groans and nobody was shouting her name. It did feel a bit embarrassing. Such a stark contrast from when she was there a few years ago at her wedding and was considered the most amazing person and everyone was applauding her.

If you're looking at Royal tours this tear, how about the other countries W&K went to, all the places visited by the Wessexes, Princess Anne's tour, and the one by then Prince Charles and DofC

Overall, I'd say the balance is positive.

And I have been quite struck by how positive international media coverage has been, and the remarkable number and variety of people paying tribute

I think it's easy to underestimate the value of soft power in international relations. And to forget just how big the Commonwealth is

Here we go again😒

I'm glad Meghan got a lovely hug from a well wisher. Lots of nice photos of people engaging.

Are you talking about the utterly disastrous Caribbean tours... even KP admitted it was a flop, blamed it on the staff though.

They got fired on TV in Jamaica, the coloniser cosplay straight from the 60s. that pic of Wills and Kate separated from kids by a cage looking barrier, Kate flinching from a black woman.

They were exposed.

Edward gave the poorest and rudest response when his host tried to engage him in topics of slavery and reparations.

No one paid attention to Anne's tour I fear.