What now for M&H

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I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

Come join us - got off my backside and have now got a full of preserved fruit and veg (I’m now handy with a canner and a dehydrator) and have made my own tallow which has been great for cooking especially roast potatoes. My Brexit stash saw us through the first months of the pandemic and my bought food pantry has now dwindled as I’m preserving my own a lot more. It’s not all buy everything of the shelves but more how to think ahead should things go tits up - so watching and prepping for issues the the energy crisis is now my focus. Sorry off topic - hope to see you there.

cabansunset · Today 07:41

The only reason Meghan needed to be 'brave' was because she turned the tide against herself with her mud slinging and lies

I totally agree, the Ophra interview totally backfired on them. So many half truths and stuff that just didn't make sense. It will take a lot for trust to return.

The rest of the RF must be on edge around them, in the same way people avoid giving the family gossip any more information than necessary.

I do imagine that, because M&H are getting some sympathy, Charles expressed his love for them, the walkabout etc.... the vitriol about this couple is not so bad at the moment, I think there might be a way forward, and that must enrage those who are entrenched in their vitriolic dislike of this couple.

I think the same applies the other way too.
I think a lot of anti royals/republicans have seen the huge numbers turning out for the queen, speaking fondly of Charles and Prince William over the course of the last few days and they too have ‘upped the ante’ (see the rehash of old rumours emerging on MN). They are equally enraged and quite happy to be vitriolic. The extremes of each side.

Prince Harry is the King of England’s son now and unlike the last generation there are only two children so he will be so far from obscurity now as it is possible to be.

Harry and Meghan have made a good choice to get out of the non role that the spare monarch is especially now the line of succession is clear with George and they will be able to move forward now and capitalise on that choice. Good luck to them. I really like them both and Kate and William.

I think you’re right.

You've got a nerve. You love to follow posters around arguing with them. You've done it with me before, so I shall not be engaging again with you, just carry on with the personal attacks if that's your thing.

I own my post about horses as a good analogy, yes. I think it's very apt. . My emotional range is spot on.

I think Kate did well being in their company after the oprah interview and mud slinging. The RF come out smelling of roses thus far regarding M and H. Meghan was clearly nervous. Read up thread there was an audible groan from the crowd when they walked over to a section of crowd as opposed to W and K. That is hard but totally of their own making. They need to go home. Dump scobie ,mind the chickens and appear every now and again at RF events . They are NEVER going to be poor ever .why do they need so much. Is there lifestyle that of billionaires! I think their negative image here must affect them. Poor PH . Meghan must be upset by it. Anyone would

Absolutely. But don't include me in that Stormz. Whilst I am not a Royalist, I have said on other threads and to people I know that Charles gave a good speech, he spoke from the heart. And I understand why the Queen dying has affected people so much, and obviously the family themselves
There are extremes on both sides, yes.

Will people PLEASE stop referring to Charles as the King of England ! He is King of millions of others ( including this Scot)

Reading I was just about to say the same.

Can I say that out of all the supporters I find
Roussette to be balanced & also at times critical of them such as Oprah. Others not so much.

It’s perfectly possible to support all the royals without seeing everything they do as perfect or awful.

'I think Kate did well being in their company after the oprah interview and mud slinging. The RF come out smelling of roses thus far regarding M and H. Meghan'

Very true. Let's hope the Sussexes reflect during this sad time, stop their tacky public criticism (which let's not forget they cut off Markle Senior for doing similar) and just go forward with discretion, compassion and kindness. Which is supposed to be their M.O afterall.

Never mind the three years of mudslinging and abuse of Meghan BEFORE Oprah. Meghan certainly didn't leak to the press that she made Kate cry. The Palace can thank themselves for letting that story out.

The UK is a lost case, H&M are aware of that. A population gorging on a diet of tabloid filth would hate Meghan Markle. It is what it is.

The world sees the RF what it truly is though, it's why William and Kate were given the boot in Jamaica and called out for their colonial cosplay. Antigua is getting ready to ditch them too. Barbados peaced out too. Slowly and surely.

Harry and Meghan have made a good choice to get out of the non role that the spare monarch is

In reality, it's not a non-role, though. It's a fabulous role, with far fewer restrictions than most of us face in our lives, offering incredible opportunities for shaping according to personal preferences (not to mention the obvious - glitz, glamour, wealth, etc.). They could have done everything that they are doing now, and more, within it. I can only assume that none of it was enough, which is something only they can unravel. They really must replace their current 'team' with people who have their best interests at heart. Their 'supporters' do them a disservice, using them as vehicles for their own ends.

'The UK is a lost case, H&M are aware of that'

It really isn't. Critics of the rf desperately want to believe but it clearly isn't true. The outpouring of support for Charles demonstrates they aren't a 'lost cause'.

I doubt any one of them are bothered about Jamaica and Barbados doing their own thing anyway.

I'm not a massive rf fan but I do think they do a good job with support, patronages, raising profiles of chartitiew etc. I just think they need to lose some of the grandiosity and palaces and ditch the overseas countries where they aren't wanted. But do it by referendum obviously not on the back of a few placard wavers.

In reality, it's not a non-role, though. It's a fabulous role, with far fewer restrictions than most of us face in our lives, offering incredible opportunities for shaping according to personal preferences (not to mention the obvious - glitz, glamour, wealth, etc.). They could have done everything that they are doing now, and more, within it.

Indeed and I think Harry in particular has realised it.

Nah it is a gilded cage. It holds zero appeal for me.

A population gorging on a diet of tabloid filth would hate Meghan Markle. It is what it is.

One of the things I have found really striking actually about the influx of new posters on the RF board (unsurprisingly really, given events!) is that many of the commentators talking about the Sussexes have given their own perspectives, and in many many cases it was that they were supportive of the couple, understood and respected their decision to walk away, and it’s only since then that they have come to revise their earlier favourable views of them. And that is based on what Meghan and Harry have themselves said and done since, not what was written about the by the UK tabloids before.

Of course it doesn’t suit the Sussexes fervent supporters to believe that there is any way that people could view the couple’s own actions and decide they don’t find them admirable, but that’s what plenty of people have said. That is what it is too.

H&M could have had a very good life as the Kings brother. They just didn't fancy the job but are struggling to make the money they need to have the lifestyle Harry in particular was accustomed too.

Princess Margaret was in exactly the same position and didn't exactly have a boring life.

NAH. NAH. NAH. H&M are golden. Imagine living off the grace and favour of the monarch for the rest of your life. There is nothing like earning your own money and being responsible for making your living. It's freedom. I saw the headlines and polls complaining about the cost of Archie's existence BEFORE he was born, the anger over Frogmore cottage when the papers stoked hatred by lying about house fixtures. Copper baths, heated floors, guest cottage etc It was ugliness.

Now they are struggling to make money? i thought they were greedy and selfish money hoarders who needed to downsize? I wouldn't call a couple who paid off Frogmore, pay for their own security, and own a mansion in Montecito struggling for money but that's just me.

The world sees the RF what it truly is though, it's why William and Kate were given the boot in Jamaica and called out for their colonial cosplay. Antigua is getting ready to ditch them too. Barbados peaced out too. Slowly and surely.

Also on this point, I think one of the true historic legacies of the late Queen’s reign is how she presided over, and supported, the peaceful path to democratic independence of the vast majority of the more than 70 overseas territories that made up the British Empire when she came to the throne. In the 70 years since this has meant that there are now only 15 nations where the UK monarch remains the Head of State. 36 countries are now republics, and five have different monarchs.

Those where the Queen remains Head of State are all on a journey to their own independence too. I can’t imagine why anyone thinks that the UK Royal family is looking to prevent this, or stand in their way, given what we’ve seen in the last 70 years.

Please don't be delusional about how media coverage shapes the way people are viewed/decisions are made. There's a reason why Brexit happened - and Brits are suffering now, America voted for Trump and Hilary lost. H&M are by no means perfect but the vitriol is unhinged.

'NAH. NAH. NAH. H&M are golden. Imagine living off the grace and favour of the monarch for the rest of your life. There is nothing like earning your own money and being responsible for making your living. It's freedom'

Earning your own money by selling gossip about the rf? Not sure that is golden tbh.

'Also on this point, I think one of the true historic legacies of the late Queen’s reign is how she presided over, and supported, the peaceful path to democratic independence of the vast majority of the more than 70 overseas territories that made up the British Empire when she came to the throne. In the 70 years since this has meant that there are now only 15 nations where the UK monarch remains the Head of State. 36 countries are now republics, and five have different monarchs.'

Exactly. But she was the colonialist head of the Empire innit.