Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

It’s so awkward for them all. I feel quite sorry for William in this. His whole life there have been so few people he can trust not to go to the press with stories about him and now his brother is no longer in that group. I find Harry’s involvement in tell-all interviews and books bizarre - surely he remembers how badly that backfired for both of his parents?

I understand why Harry and Meghan left and I think they have the potential to do some good work, but I would really struggle to be around relatives who write books and give interviews about you at a private time.

Harry can absolutely have his wife to support him at home or at the funeral.
Not on the day she pass with the family, the queen's children comfort comes first, they are the sons and daughters!

If my df or dm didn't want my partner or a cousins partner etc when their mother had just died I think that is absolutely their right!

The fact that she fully intended to go up there (before being told no) is just galling really. The woman has some brass neck that's for sure!

@Snowiscold Well, as neither of us know what Charles really meant we're both speculating, aren't we?

Surprised that Meghan and/or Harry thought it was appropriate for her to go, at least initially.

Surprised that Andrew is swanning around with them despite buying off a very young and likely trafficked girl he denies having sex with at great expense.

I mean both Meghan and Andrew (and Harry tbf) deserve to be on some kind of shit list, but the Sussex “crimes” pale into insignificance relative to that sexually incompetent, supercilious buffoon.

I agree with this.

It would of been inappropriate to have Megan there. Not because if all the nonsense but purely because this is a Grandmother/Mother dying and the only people who should be there are immediate family. When my own Dad died my brothers wife wasn't there neither was any partners, not because there's a rift, but because it would of been inappropriate. A person's dying breaths is very very personal and I wouldn't want my children's wifes/husbands/partners there when it's me.

That's word for word what I think happened too.

Charles was there already, George was at home with his mum so the heir and spare thing was covered. Harry is a long way down the list in line to the throne now.

I don't think he wanted to travel with the others, and he left very early the next morning so clearly didn't want to be with his family.

He and Meghan have behaved so badly that I have no sympathy. And if I were Charles or any of the others I wouldn't have wanted someone who has slagged me off as much as her there at such an emotional family time.

This, and remember, Megan has no feelings for any of her own family, except for her Mother.
Harry is as bad, having never privately visited her father either.
They are still set to attack the royal family in a book, and are best to be shunned, until they can behave in a better fashion

Yup. I can never comprehend how people have so much vitriol for Harry & Meghan but are perfectly happy to overlook the fact that Andrew is the vilest of the vile and his mother. The person everyone is currently grief competing over PAID off his victim. I’m sorry but any good the Queen ever did was written off the moment she signed that cheque

Harry has treated his grandmother shamefully these last few years.
I hope he has finally realised this.
Meghan has been busy firing salvos into the RF and profiteering from her connection to them. I'm sure she intends to resume this behaviour as soon as she can. Meghan has been successful in life beyond her wildest dreams and Harry has achieved his dream of opting out of royal life.

They are not the most sympathetic of characters. I feel very sorry for the rest of the RF having to contend with the M&H sideshow whilst mourning the Queen.

I don't think it's brass neck to assume you'd accompany your husband to visit his gran as she's dying when he's estranged from his family. If there was an assumption she'd get a seat at the bedside too and hold the Queen's hand as she slipped away, then maybe that label would be justified. But there was no indication she'd do anything that just be within the castle.

But, per my previous post, I don't blame the family for not wanting her there, to avoid her next podcast being: How To Die Like A Queen.

Why feel sympathy? She had no reason to be there

I have a an American family friend who attended North Western with Meghan. Her parents were sympathetic at first with Meghan but like many Americans lost patience when she started to make a living out of moaning to the world about her in laws. Most of us have in laws and indeed are in laws to our children's partners. Increasingly, the Americans I know express their sympathy to the RF and feel that Meghan is wrong to keep up her campaign of bitter revenge by over sharing her recollections ( which vary) of her short time as a member of the Royal Family

When my mum died last year, her four children made a dash to her bedside. Two of her children, one accompanied by their spouse, got there in time. At no point did we consider trying to get her six grand-children there, never mind their partners; it would have delayed things immeasurably, the bedside would have been chaos, and though the six of them loved her to bits, it was her children who had the closest bond - of course it was.

The papers are saying that Harry was never invited to Balmoral. I don't find that surprising or snubbing. I can see that William needed to be there for constitutional reasons, and actually he seemed to make himself useful rather than important - driving his aunt and uncles, who were presumably too affected by grief to drive, and did not want an unknown chauffeur in the car at that very private time.

None of the other grand-children, never mind their spouses, were there.

Harry simply isn't as important as he thinks he is. Even had there been no rift, I cannot see that the situation would have been any different.

She's not obliged to make any public appearances
Oh yes she is. She signed a contract with Netflix, Spotify, et al. That’s what she sighted up for.

They can't win whatever they do

I don't feel sorry for her, she knew what she was signing herself up for abd still went through with it. Now all she does is complain and push Harry and his family further apart. He'll wake up one day and realise what she's like I too imagine they won't stay together he has too much to loose I think x

They've done it to themselves. Harry should have stood up to her and told her not to slag off his family publicly.
BTW, has anyone actually seen him smile since his wedding?

I don't feel sorry for Megan (I do feel sorry for Harry, for many reasons, even though he's often a fool). Megan needs to learn about Royal protocol and stop thinking for herself so much. Her independent ideas aren't always inline with what's expected of her, and I suspect she repeatedly ends up hurt, embarrassed and frustrated. At the very least she could use Google to find out what marrying into the Royal family means. But maybe that's the problem, Harry's previous girlfriends knew the reality and wouldn't marry him.

I suspect @mum2bee2022 is pretty close to the truth.

I think she's evil, any woman who would do what she has done over the last few years knowing it will fracture her husband's relationships with his family and cause a very old lady pain when she's dealing with the death of her beloved husband shouldn't be sympathised with.

I'm sure the RF got wind of the plan for her to be with Harry and told him he couldn't bring her, it was nothing to do with protocol and whatever Kate was doing.

Errr no. I’ll save my sympathy for those who aren’t multi millionaires off the back of throwing their family under a bus. I also had to lol at ‘feel good your’. They were self promoting, as always.

I would like them to do well in their humanitarian causes, they both seem passionate about them.
They both seem passionate about talking about them. Actually doing? Not so much..

I don’t feel sorry for them. They’re continually trashing people who can’t answer back (“recollections may vary”)..

*tour

It really isnt about her colour. She is a spiteful, social climbing women who is pulling all of Harry’s strings. Just how many people has she trashed and fallen out with. Her own family, Harry’s family. It’s just endless and her colour has nothing to do with any of it. The book will be horrible and steered by her.

She will of course attend the funeral probably miked up so she can make another podcast. Just a horrible horrible women and I do think eventually they will divorce and there will be yet more opportunities for her to trash her life.