Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

[8AndGreat]

It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

If you mean me - I've no idea what you are talking about when you mention a document he signed at birth. Is that even possible?

Other people have retreated from royal life without making a song and dance about it - the Duchess of Kent, for one. He could have done that. Instead he chose to do it the way he did.

According to the press (I know) Harry had originally planned to fly by helicopter with Meghan. I guess the others just went without him while the Sussexes flip flopped around with their arrangements.

Is it just Meghan you feel sorry for, or would you have felt the same if, say, Jack Brooksbank had tried to go too? No other spouses of grandchildren were there, it doesn’t seem appropriate that she should have been. If I were her I’d probably fly home too, but I’m sure she’d get even worse press if she did so they can’t win really.

Are you Meghan @8AndGreat ?

Can't quite understand how you feel sorry for a woman who has spent the last couple of years trashing the Royal family, telling lies, upsetting an ill 96 years old with her lies and how she has 'tried to forgive' blah blah blah.

I think you need to give your head a wobble and open your eyes to what Meghan was /is doing.

I think you may be right @mum2bee2022

H&M have done nothing but criticise the RF since they moved to the States. H's new book containing heaven only knows what "bombshells" is yet to be published - its imminent publication a constant threat left dangling like the sword of Damocles. They were in the UK for a charm offensive before telling "their truth" (as opposed to THE truth - I think there is a subtle difference). No visit had been scheduled to Harry's 96-year-old grandmother - despite her increasing years and ill health - nor indeed to any members of his immediate family (even those living a few hundred yards away on the Windsor estate). To say things are now awkward for the pair of them is putting it mildly. I don't think the death of the Queen was on anyone's radar - it's certainly upset their applecart. Instead cosying up to granny (making sure she has the right people around her and being privy to things she can't tell to other people) Harry must now deal directly with his own father - after letting it slip that racist member of the RF alluded to in the Oprah interview was none other than the Queen Consort herself. Yes they are out of their depth - but they have no-one to blame but themselves.

There is no depth to which the Daily Mail will not stoop to inflict pain on the Sussexes. Hell hath no fury like a Tory scorned, especially by a woman of colour.

I agree and I do sympathise with this. It's interesting that some of Harry's exes have said that they didn't want all the media scrutiny from being married to a royal. I think she was weirdly unprepared for what life as a royal would be like. You aren't just marrying a man, you are marrying an institution. There's no way I could do that, but I think Harry has been unhappy for a long time, so hopefully he is happier now. But, it's a heavy price to pay.

What a load of crap.

The racist-to-the-core Firm and Tories have done nothing but abuse the Sussexes. The level of hostility is breathtaking.

Exactly this

England gets nastier with each passing day

Time to abolish the monarchy anyway

Harry must now deal directly with his own father

Not to mention his brother - who seems much less likely to be forgiving. I mean, if your own brother won't talk to you because of what you might misreport in your 'memoir,' you've gone wrong somewhere.

Yes I had to be honest! The point stands though, it can be difficult to attend these events when you're not really welcome.

How nasty to wish divorce on someone. I am sure he does have sense and I am sure he loves Meghan.

Far too many children have to have the upset and disruption of divorced parents

Eeerr NO! Harry doesn't have that right! Imagine anyone dying only wanting certain people in her home to die peacefully, then hearing a squawking Megan downstairs - unacceptable!
They'd also be on every glossy mag for years about the last convo/sight/last words with the queen - I'm glad that Harry was welcome (we assume!?) but not her

Everybody loved Meghan when Harry was engaged to her. The wedding at Windsor was so wonderful and full of public rejoicing. Meghan claims not to have understood what the job would involve and chose to leave and turn her back on the RF. Most people understood that being a member of the Royal Family was not for her. Most people wished them well in their new life in sunny California.
If that had been it, they would still be popular but it is the endless revenge interviews about perceived slights that have resulted in most of us losing patience with H and M. The Queen was the Crown and also a very old lady. H and M caused so much distress to her with their constant jibes. Many people have issues with in laws but most are not vindictive, particularly when it involves a very very old lady in fragile health.

Meghan clearly dislikes the RF and by association the UK. She has a right to live the way she wants but she should now leave us all alone and stop making her living out of being permanently raging about her time as a member of the RF.

I think you're absolutely right.

They had been scheduled to attend an event in London that evening but obviously they cancelled.

What a load of crap

Actually I reckon it's spot on. The narrative has changed and not necessarily in their favour. I thought Charles's mention of them last night was pretty cursory - a case of 'you've chosen California, now get on with it.'

Agree!
you only need to scan MN to see the number of outraged/critical threads about Meghan over the last couple of days versus those outraged that senior royals travelled together with a man who consorted with sex traffickers and is very likely himself a paedophile.

either most MNetters are ok to overlook a man involved in the sex trafficking of women, or they’re looking for an opportunity to put the boot in to a woman because she doesn’t ‘tow the line’

either way it’s pretty distasteful reflection of misogynistic priorities.

Feel sorry for Harry more than anyone else, always had a soft spot for him. It Must be very difficult for him not to be able to be with his family properly to grieve his beloved grandma.

It is unreal.

I don't recognise this country any more. Racist, spiteful, selfish.

Yes to both parts of this. It must have been awful for him travelling up there alone, presumably already knowing the Queen had gone – she died at 3.30pm, before he got his flight. He would've wanted to say goodbye and pay his respects but had to do it without his wife to support him. It must've been especially grim as he says he stepped back to be free of the grey suits toxicity and you just know that's what would've greeted him on his arrival (i.e. not his actual family being mean, because they were too busy being devastated, but the courtiers).

BUT. The interviews, the podcasts, the constant digs, all the time knowing the Royals can never fight back – is it no wonder they didn't relish them both being in situ as the Queen was on her deathbed? They clearly cannot be trusted to keep anything private – who do we think briefed the media last night about the King telling her to stay away? (Clue: it wasn't from the King's side). The press only know because their camp would've leaked it and you can tell from the language they did – "Charles made it very, very clear Meghan would not be welcome.”

I just wish they'd get on with their lives. They don't want to be working Royals, fine. Just stop trying to carve a new career on the back of fanning the estrangement.

If I was Charles or William I wouldn’t have wanted her anywhere near Balmoral. She can’t be trusted not to use it as fodder for her podcast or next sensationalist interview. And that’s the real problem, a concern that private moments will not remain private.

No, it was the opposite. Him mentioning them at all indicated his desire for them to be part of the family. It wasn’t in the least bit cursory.

I feel sorry for him, not her. She was given every opportunity to be part of the royal family that she chose to join, but she decided it would be more interesting to shit stir instead.