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Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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8AndGreat · 10/09/2022 09:22

It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

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Readinginthesun · 10/09/2022 16:55

wackamole · 10/09/2022 16:34

Correct; Harry and Meghan were in Düsseldorf promoting the Invictus Games. CNN initially reported - after the announcement in Parliament of the Queen's decline but before the announcement of her death - that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex would travel directly from Germany to Scotland (this was an add-on to a roundup of who was already at Balmoral and who was planning to go). It's not the same situation as, for example, the two of them at home in California deciding who travels to the UK.

They were at Frogmore . They returned to the U.K. after their event in Germany .

ScarlettnotOHara · 10/09/2022 16:56

@savethebeesandthecees or maybe

she had her fancy wedding at the Uk tax payers expense and should have known the confinements and tradition of being a royal .

she had her cottage also renovated along with yoga studios again at the uk tax payers expense

she decided to leave the royal lifestyle behind but still wants the privileges and money that comes with being a royal

she is making money from telling tales on the royal family, talk about biting the hand that feeds you !!

if she wants privacy so much why is she constantly putting herself in the press?

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/09/2022 16:57

Has anyone said sorry to them for being racist or anything else they had done to them.

Allegedly had done to them. We only have their word that anyone was racist or did anything to them. To be honest if one of them told me water was wet I'd check it out rather than believe them.

mateysmum · 10/09/2022 16:57

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I have!

I can understand if H&M want to dash back to California before the funeral as obviously they didn't come prepared and they will want to see the children, but it was as if somebody has him on a very tight string.......attached to a vulnerable part of his anatomy!

BellePeppa · 10/09/2022 16:59

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I was very shocked to see the footage of her wedding where she smiles then stops smiling and glares at Charlotte then continues to smile when Charlotte has passed. It was weird and creepy behaviour towards a then three year old. I was rooting for them both at the start but it’s really hard to see any genuine likability about her and Harry has turned into a huge disappointment (imo).

Blinky21 · 10/09/2022 17:00

I sympathise, I think she was treated appallingly by the RF and media and have so much respect for them for getting out. Kate didn't go to Balmoral either. If Meghan did anything she'd be accused of making it about her

MissingNashville · 10/09/2022 17:00

Festoonlights · 10/09/2022 16:49

I wonder in Harry’s quiet moments whether he regrets the way things ended, and now his Grandmother died and he can no longer make things right. He can’t rewind the clock and stop the destruction and damage.

Its a big thing he now needs to try and live with, he had the power to turn it around, even at a late stage and didn’t. Will he bury his own father at some point in the future under the same cloud?

It is very sad

Have you had a fallout with a member of your family where you have been wronged, where they have said disgusting things about hour partner and children? I have. And I can say very strongly that when someone dies, it doesn’t change a thing. It’s not for me to ‘make things right‘. They brought it on themselves. Just because it’s the royals and everyone has an opinion, it’s no different to every other family.

Tierne · 10/09/2022 17:00

@BellePeppa
Link?

Fififelix · 10/09/2022 17:01

Sporty2022 · 10/09/2022 16:42

Meghan was relatively successful in her own right. An actress who was well known in the US before she married Harry.

Harrys not talented particularly. He was born a Prince. Other than that, he hasn’t really achieved anything major off his own back. I know you could say the same thing about a lot of Royals. Their status means they can do lots of good.

Andrew- the man’s a walking disaster. His only real claim to being of use when when he served in the Falklands war. 40 years ago.
He hasn’t been of much use since ,other than using his status to exploit people.
He’s dined off being a war veteran since then, when thousands of other ordinary people did the same and are much nicer people than he is.

She was not really well known in the US this is a myth peddled about. She lived in Canada and was a supporting actress in Suits which wasn't a massive show not even one of the main characters. She was modestly successful but not A list she didn't even know half the celebs she invited to her wedding nor did Harry.

DysonSphere · 10/09/2022 17:02

Tierne · 10/09/2022 17:00

@BellePeppa
Link?

Yes link please

bloodyplanes · 10/09/2022 17:03

I don't feel sorry for them in the slightest! I think Harry is a spoilt brat who is mentally unstable and she is a disgusting social climber who has exploited his issues to its fullest! People can cry racism all they like, but when the woman has literally ghosted or fallen out with the majority of people in her life then it's clearly her personality not her colour that is the problem. The fact that last week she was busy making her millions by slagging her dh family off yet this week she was fully prepared to intrude of them in a time of terrible grief for them shows me exactly what type of person she really is. I also don't believe that Harry was even asked to fly with the rest of the family because his brother doesn't trust him and detests his wife. I think Harry and Meghan are about to find out what its really like being out in the cold because the real power behind this throne will be his brother! His father is no pushover but he is after all Harry's parent and wants to believe the best of him, his brother however is a different story and I honestly don't believe he will ever truly forgive him for the things he and Meghan have said and done.

PlacidPenelope · 10/09/2022 17:03

even Catherine of Aragon (Henry VIII first wife) was widowed by his brother and branded a Spanish slapper

By Courtiers no doubt, my understanding is the public were very fond of her and always referred to her and thought of her as the 'true' Queen.

I wish them well but only if they live the quiet life they said they wanted. They need to stop trashing Harry's family and the veiled threats are deplorable.

I agree, they wanted a different life, away from the media circus, intrusion and restrictions of life within the institution of the Royal Family - entirely understandable and acceptable - and yet they then run to their 'favoured' media, which is then picked up and commented on by other media and round and round and round it goes. I agree with another poster that Harry hasn't really got anything to offer above anyone else apart from his attachment to the Royal Family which he is using and abusing to enrich him and damn those caught in the fall out.

I would have a great deal of respect and admiration for both of them if they did just go and live as private citizens, drop all the titles and the privileges that come with those titles and association with Royal Family (they don't want and won't accept the responsibility that comes with them) and make their way in the world independently. Unfortunately, they are both aware and I think for Harry particularly that without the association with the titles and Royal Family they appear to have so much contempt for no-one would be the slightest bit interested in anything they have to say or sell.

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 10/09/2022 17:04
MissingNashville · 10/09/2022 17:04

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 10/09/2022 16:57

Has anyone said sorry to them for being racist or anything else they had done to them.

Allegedly had done to them. We only have their word that anyone was racist or did anything to them. To be honest if one of them told me water was wet I'd check it out rather than believe them.

So they just made it all up, caused a family fallout over nothing. Yeah, cos everyone does that. 🙄😂

People do not fall out with family for no reason.

DamnUserName21 · 10/09/2022 17:04

Spencerfloral · 10/09/2022 14:39

Absolutely. Almost 30 pages of hate, full of baseless assumptions when she hasn’t even said anything. Meanwhile Andrew has had no such raking over the coals. Disgusting that Mumsnet is letting this continue.

^Yep

Fozzleyplum · 10/09/2022 17:06

Meghan's modus operandi is clearly to sell gossip (not all of it true) about the Royal Family, for her own commercial ends. Of course they weren't going to risk letting her anywhere near Balmoral.

SoyMarina · 10/09/2022 17:06

BellePeppa I can believe that. I remember seeing her for the first time at church with Harry’s family on Christmas day. I noticed how she could smile brightly and then instantly switch it off depending on who was speaking to her. She is indeed an actress but not a very good one.

LondonWolf · 10/09/2022 17:09

I haven't read the thread but will do.

All I will say is that if I hadn't visited my well loved 96 year old grandparent when I was in the same country and literally a matter of hours away from her, I'd find it very hard to live with myself.

Enko · 10/09/2022 17:10

savethebeesandthecees · 10/09/2022 09:37

The hatred towards her is because she

  • married someone
  • moved with her husband to her homeland
  • dumped her narcissistic dad
  • called out her in-laws (like her MIL did)
  • earns her own money
  • successfully sued the DM
  • is black

To me this is how Megan wants people to see it and I genuinely think she believes that is how it is. However, how I see it is

People rejoiced when she and Harry got engaged she was welcomed and the wedding was celebrated. I don't think anyone was against the marriage. I recall people feeling sorry for Eugenie feeling her wedding later that year was less than H and M's due to when it fell. There was much excitement over the wedding.

I think if you marry a Prince or Princess you need to accept you need to take on that country a fair bit. Chris O'Neil who is married to Princess Madeleine of Sweden is not popular in Sweeden over taking Madeleine and their children out of Sweden. I think it is naive to think you can exit the way they did claiming you want a " normal" life and then spending this life on making money on what you wanted to escape. That is what people dislike not so much they moved. How they did it and how they went about it.

I applaud her for dumping her dad and at the time of the wedding again I only recall much sympathy for her over how appealing her dad and siblings on his side were behaving.

As by my comment on moving out I feel if you wish to leave a royal life and live " normally" you do not do this by calling out the inlaws.

I do not believe anyone has a issue with her earning ability. It means they don't need to take money of the Royal house.

Personally I like her for suing the daily fail One thing I think she did well.

Personally I have never considered her colour nor did I ever Princess Alexandra of Denmark (now Countess of Frederiksborg) They are both beautiful women who married the 2nd prince of a royal country. Alexandra has behaved with far more style and decorum than Megan has and THAT is in my view why people dislike her. She forges ahead like a bull in a china shop. People don't care for that within a royal family.

JudgeJ · 10/09/2022 17:10

StormzyinaTCup · 10/09/2022 15:20

He needs to stop stirring the pot.

The pot of dollars?

Fififelix · 10/09/2022 17:10

Fozzleyplum · 10/09/2022 17:06

Meghan's modus operandi is clearly to sell gossip (not all of it true) about the Royal Family, for her own commercial ends. Of course they weren't going to risk letting her anywhere near Balmoral.

Exactly doesn't have enough talent off her own back to make it in the film industry. The only currency they have is to use the titles and sell stories but Meghan disowned her father when he did the same.

Sporty2022 · 10/09/2022 17:11

Charity work- Lady Diana did loads and kissing and hugging HIV victims was phenomenal, for someone of her status.

I once met her in a very random place and spent several minutes talking to her before she got ushered off by her bodyguard.

She seemed real and quite down to earth. I can only base my opinion on my random encounter with her- but she seemed to be a lovely fun person.

ChipsRoastOrBoiled · 10/09/2022 17:12

savethebeesandthecees · 10/09/2022 09:37

The hatred towards her is because she

  • married someone
  • moved with her husband to her homeland
  • dumped her narcissistic dad
  • called out her in-laws (like her MIL did)
  • earns her own money
  • successfully sued the DM
  • is black

Speak for yourself.

In my case, it's because I don't like liars.

CoolShoeshine · 10/09/2022 17:12

It really grinds my gears how so many people assume critics of Meghan are racist. I, along with thousands of other in Britain thought she was an amazing girlfriend and fiancé for Harry and was excited for the glamour and freshness she would bring to the royal family. Kate was starting to look a big boring and mumsy compared to her. Harry was the stand out personally in the family who everyone loved for his sense of fun. The could have been the most popular couple in the country and for a short time they probably were. She is beautiful and strong and I’d give anything to look like her. But her personality and behaviour are obnoxious and she has a tight control over Harry. Harry does seem damaged by his childhood but he was always so close to William. Zara etc, just look back at William’s wedding to see how they all are together. Harry should have left the county for his family’s privacy and everyone would have understood. But the LA lifestyle and the media trashing have made the public dislike them and find them tasteless. Nothing to do with nationality or skin colour.

MaulPerton · 10/09/2022 17:13

MissingNashville · 10/09/2022 17:04

So they just made it all up, caused a family fallout over nothing. Yeah, cos everyone does that. 🙄😂

People do not fall out with family for no reason.

This is the crux of it. There has to be a good reason for creating all of this chaos...surely?

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