Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

Do you!! Well good for you!! I don’t feel sorry for her at all, the situation the Sussex’s are in is all of there own making. The olive branch was apparently given this summer at the jubilee a invite to come to visit Balmoral in the summer. The Queen probably saw all her grandchildren and there family’s this summer, only one’s that did not go was the Sussex’s . Since they left the U.K. for a Christmas holiday to Canada in the winter of 2019 they have really treated the Queen , Prince Philip (when he was alive) Prince Charles very badly , only last month the Dutches clearly said in her latest self serving podcast that her husband had lost his Father.

You can’t keep sticking the knife into your family and washing your dirty washing in public and expect them to still to keep loving and to respect you. Think they have lost all respect form Prince William he will be so upset and probably angry at how his father ,Grandmother and Grandfather have been treated in the last three years. Was very pleased the new King clearly said In his speech yesterday that they were both loved members of the family , but I’m such that will also be twisted in a future Podcast.

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I read earlier that although Kate had to stay with her DC Harry was told that she was not welcome and in no circumstances should she come
After all they have said and done, it's hardly surprising
So they wanted to leave the country for their privacy and live an " ordinary life"
Why the hell have they not shut up and got on with it?
In my opinion, Meghan mistook her royal title for the word Celebrity and why Harry found that acceptable I have no idea

They (H&M) have bit the hand that fed them. They (mainly him) was massively privileged from birth, she (as the narcissistic sociopath she comes across) knew (well thought) she would be worshipped and adored by marrying into the RF, the second she wasn’t she decided to turn the tables and essentially tantrum and gnaw away.

Every new royal partner has been picked apart for centuries, even Catherine of Aragon (Henry VIII first wife) was widowed by his brother and branded a Spanish slapper after she was engaged to marry Henry and told to go back to where she came from, she (M) was/is not the first to receive public scrutiny so the woe is only me doesn’t wash unfortunately.

I do not feel sorry for them as the adults they’ve turned out to be, many children lose parents in tragic ways, have difficult relationships with family, many children are in the spotlight because of their parents and become privileged from it (nepotism) yet suffer criticism- H&M had a platform to do good, give their children and themselves a very privileged life and be part of a legacy.

Im no royalist by any means, infact I think the institution should be abolished as our rich history is enough to sustain the influx of tourism we get (apparently attributed to the RF) however I do think H&M are acting fools, they chose to be celebrities yet wish to be treated like royals still when all you need to look back at is Wallis and Edward and see how well that went. You can’t have both worlds and profit from them.

Megan didn’t do much, it didn’t stop her. We have no idea what Catherine does. Not everyone shouts about everything they do. Our new king was always reputed to be lazy, those who know him best say he’s a workaholic. Catherine isn’t the look at me type.

They are obviously struggling to make their own mark and lots of money in the US without the royal connection. Meghan seems to have grasped no one is really interested in her just that she's married to a prince. She left the RF 2 years ago and still feels the need to criticise them she left the UK after a short time how much more material does she actually have to gripe about ?

The royals have closed ranks there will be no juicy gossip for her to sell. Both of them need to move on and do positive things. It's not healthy to hold grudges.

I feel sorry for Harry in that he has lost a much loved grandmother. His face when he was in the car after leaving Balmoral was heartbreaking.
I understand why Catherine didn't go to Balmoral. Sounds like it all happened very quickly and she had 3 young children to think about apart from any protocol issues. I also see how in the confusion about arrangements it could have been unclear whether Meghan should go. On this occasion I will give her the benefit of the doubt.
I also see why she might not have been welcome. How could the family relax not knowing if their every word was going to be twisted and reported in the media.
I am getting more confused as to why Harry left Balmoral so quickly - barely 12 hours after he got there. Clearly Charles and William had no choice, but it is now clear that more family members - Beatrice, Eugenie etc arrived later and are still at Balmoral, sharing their grief and no doubt having all the necessary discussions that happen when someone dies. Surely Harry could and should be with them.

Another one who does not feel sorry. What were they thinking with that Oprah interview?

Kate keeps her head down, is aware of the privileged life her and her children have and says nothing.

She enjoys raising her children in affluent circumstances, and ensures she never says or does anything that would make her appear "entitled" or "unappreciative" of where she is in the world.

Kate has never professed to be a champion of "humanitarian causes" or the want to "change the world through philanthropy". Probably through common sense, she knows she can't in her position.

She's very clearly a wife and mum first sort of person, and that's ok. She's never said she would be anything else really.

Twitter is an absolute shithole.

No-one should hang out there, and I mean that genuinely. I post and read the occasional thing for professional work reasons, but even then I limit myself to a few times a week of short duration.

The 'report' feature is ridiculous.

Meghan was relatively successful in her own right. An actress who was well known in the US before she married Harry.

Harrys not talented particularly. He was born a Prince. Other than that, he hasn’t really achieved anything major off his own back. I know you could say the same thing about a lot of Royals. Their status means they can do lots of good.

Andrew- the man’s a walking disaster. His only real claim to being of use when when he served in the Falklands war. 40 years ago.
He hasn’t been of much use since ,other than using his status to exploit people.
He’s dined off being a war veteran since then, when thousands of other ordinary people did the same and are much nicer people than he is.

Erm...Andrew sexually assaulted someone. Sorry doesn’t really work. He’s is disgusting. It’s in no way comparable to M and H. Has anyone said sorry to them for being racist or anything else they had done to them. I’ve not heard. But then no one knows anything. It nothing but ‘sources’ and made up things being repeated. No one knows.

Meghan and Harry chose a new life away from the royal family. Prince Charles said in his speech last night that he loves them. His affection and pride when he walked Meghan down the aisle at their wedding was clear to see.

It's sad as they could have had an increasingly major role in the monarchy now that Charles is king. But it's what they wanted.

I wish them well but only if they live the quiet life they said they wanted. They need to stop trashing Harry's family and the veiled threats are deplorable. Their behaviour since leaving has been despicable. I hope Harry learns from recent events that you don't always have the opportunity to make things right.

even Catherine of Aragon (Henry VIII first wife) was widowed by his brother and branded a Spanish slapper

Can you imagine if SM had been around when Henry VIII was divorcing Catherine so he could marry Anne Boleyn? (who was also called a whore by a lot of people).

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain

Would Anne be on here?

‘I’m in the tower, haven’t been out for days. what’s happening on Eastenders?’

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain precisely, I mean she was ultimately beheaded for rumours she was shagging get brother (so Henry could marry wife no.3).. now those are woe is me times.

What people need to realise is it’s always been dangerous to marry into the RF, you will never be eternally loved, just remembered, yet Meghan clearly glazed over this part. This is why it’s called ‘Duty’ not celebrity.

I don’t feel an ounce of sympathy for either of them.I love the way the King effectively dismissed them in his speech yesterday.

Its this sort of thing that just shows whatever is done, some people are determined to see bad.

By including them in his speech, to me, he went out of his way to show they are very much part of him. He could easily have just not mentioned them, which would have been read into as him ‘dismissing’ them. He didn’t, he mentioned them so not dismissing them at all. They were included.

I wonder in Harry’s quiet moments whether he regrets the way things ended, and now his Grandmother died and he can no longer make things right. He can’t rewind the clock and stop the destruction and damage.

Its a big thing he now needs to try and live with, he had the power to turn it around, even at a late stage and didn’t. Will he bury his own father at some point in the future under the same cloud?

It is very sad

@Nolongerteaching I think the towers walls are far too thick for even superfast broadband, she’d have been screwed!

although.. atleast she wouldn’t have seen she’s suspected of making passionate love with her own brother.. every cloud!

This.
She also has to put up with every inch of herself being scrutinised, every word, every action examined. She had to go through the whole “affair” rumours as well. The fact she doesn’t make any comment or reference to these things is “ what she does” and consequently is an assist to the royal family,

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Surely Harry could and should be with them

ever heard of that song “My wife won’t let me”

I think Charles was making it very clear that he loves his son but there is no role for him under his rule as is what Harry (thought he ) wanted.

William has issued a statement the he will honour his grandmother’s memory by supporting his father, the King. I hope that Harry will also feel that this is a suitable course of action.

Would Anne be on here?

She'd be on Style and Beauty all the time. She was very elegant and she made sure her baby daughter was very well dressed as well.

I don't agree with their past actions but I do hope that this might be a time of reconciliation for them with the royal family. That's what the Queen would really want.