Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

www.macleans.ca/royalty/why-meghan-markle-spells-her-name-wrong/

Meghan is stunningly beautiful, seems healthy, is extremely wealthy, has two adorable DC etc etc etc Why would I feel sorry for her?

She seems full of energy and drive. I don't think she's kind or sensitive, more ruthless and selfish tbh, but the same could be said about an awful lot of successful people in e.g. business, TV etc.

I don't think her constantly criticising the Royals is doing her any favours; of course people dislike and are hurt by such a priveleged person complaining about how hardly done by she claims to be when she chose to marry a Royal and will certainly have known what that entails. She does also seem clueless about how the average (let alone poor) person lives.

If she could just rise above that and forge her own way in a more positive manner I think her future could be amazing.

Not sure about Harry. I can't imagine being him and publishing a book criticising his own family. Is he so perfect?

I also think that as well as the hurt feelings on all sides there is a perceived risk that effectively the sussexs will sell the story of their involvement following the queens passing. The wider family is clearly now very cautious of them, their involvement, what’s said to them etc. they are simply not to be trusted.

I am also very surprised that either harry or Meghan perceived it acceptable for her to go to balmoral in the immediate after math of the queens death and be with the immediate family at such a deeply private time and, after all that’s been said and done by the two of them about those very people.

it lacks awareness, empathy and is entitled self absorbed intrusive and discomforting that they would even consider it. It is clear Charles deeply loves harry and the family have handled it publicly with dignity in the face of the pair of them trash talking for cash.

Is that you Meghan?

When I read through these threads I wonder if some posters have a fantasy world made up where they're somehow involved in the Royal Family.

So many KNOW how they're feeling and peoples motives for doing stuff. I know the media absolutely feed on the Meghan haters of the world and encourage it and the Meghan haters fuel the fire by putting 2 and 2 together and making 67 through their vivid imaginations.

I don’t fee
an ounce of sympathy for either of them. They have made their bed and now have to lie on it.I think Charles was very generous in what he said about them yesterday. They don’t deserve it.

And one can only hope and pray that Meghan never steps foot on British soil again, and nor will she be welcome or be invited.
The end of their visits is one of the only silver linings to this terribly sad time.

And whilst Meghan blazes through Diana’s inheritance as she is currently doing now, one can only hope Harry can extract himself before he becomes entirely penniless and is too far gone to find a way back.
Whilst I accept the Windsors are far from perfect, you know as a middle aged woman precisely what you are signing up for when you marry one!

I am curious to see what the Sussexes will do for the next ten day leading up to the funeral.
Best course of action would be for Meghan to go home to be with their children while H stays here and tries to make himself useful to his family ( or at least to try and be pleasant in their company).
Meghan should come back just in time for the funeral to minimise her time with her in laws as she has definitely burnt her boats with them all.

The thing about Prince Andrew yes he's vile but he was the Queens son of course she would have wanted him there over Meghan and even Harry! Blood is thicker than water.

I watched a documentary about Diana and her humanitarian work was next level she would hold sick children, people dying of AIDs when it was a very taboo thing. She also participated in mine clearing. Meghan goes on national TV and says "No one asked am I ok" in a place with lots of poverty. She makes podcasts and wordsalad speeches what humanitarian work has she actually done ? She's trying to be the next Diana but doesn't want to put the work in. She wants the money but none of the hard work.

Both Meghan and Harry are educated adults who have made deliberate choices that have put them where they are today. It's what they wanted and want they choose. No need to feel sorry for them AT ALL

The facts always seem to speak for themselves with the Duke and his wife. I wish them well and think they would be happier if they both reconciled with their families. Eg the Duchess' father said in the last week he is always willing to see her. Prince Charles also has an open door policy for them both including when they were over here (obviously before he became King). So I do not agree with anyone above saying the fathers have closed a door and refused contact.

Both the fathers seem to love their children and I hope the couple can find the time to spend more time with them and stop trying to make money out of the fact Harry is a Prince.

I agree that Diana did some amazing humanitarian work.

but your equivalence should be Kate. What has she done?

savethebeesandthecees · Today 09:37
The hatred towards her is because she
married someone
moved with her husband to her homeland
dumped her narcissistic dad
called out her in-laws (like her MIL did)
earns her own money
successfully sued the DM
is black

I don't agree. The tabloid press treated Meghan disgracefully, but they they do that to everyone they get their teeth into. I don't think anyone or any other institution has treated her badly - far from it.

I think it's very telling that Meghan seems to have fallen out with almost her entire family.

Whatever her problem in getting on with others, I bet it's nothing to do with her being black...which she isn't anyway - she's mixed race. If we're going to talk rumours and gossip, there are many indications that she's a bloody difficult woman and, as Harry is supposed to have said to an aide who was being given a hard time by her 'What Meghan wants, Meghan gets'. It was clear from the get-go that she would never fit into royal life, with all its restrictions and sacrifices of personal choice etc. She's for many years led a celebrity life and is extremely independent-minded - she was never going to like playing second fiddle to anyone (least of all Kate!!!), which protocol would demand. I blame Harry for this...didn't he explain to her just what it would be like??

Then they have PUBLICLY made an incredibly serious allegation of racism about an unnamed person (a very cheap trick - they should put their money where their mouths are) to Oprah Winfrey, of all people. She replied 'Whaaat?', when she should possibly have said 'That's a very serious allegation...?'

They've done very little other than snipe at the RF and Britain since leaving. They have exploited their connections for monetary gain and now Harry is about to publish his ghost-written memoirs with more spicy and teasing stuff. Meghan also gave an interview recently in which she darkly hinted that 'she could say anything...she hadn't signed anything to stop her' (Nice!), so they are basically threatening all sorts of nastiness.

I hope that the Queen's death will make them both reconsider, grow up and basically SHUT UP.

Imo Harry is a spoiled bereaved child. I don’t say that lightly as I see the same qualities in my children as they too lost a parent young. He/ they think the world owe them something. He appears to want his cake and eat it too.

having said that I did think it was sad he wasn’t there today to see his father announced as king.
not in a royal role but as his son.

I really hope that the Queens death will some how bring this family back together, for their own sakes. It’s very sad how two brothers who used to seem to be so close have fallen out. Not on anyones side, we don’t know what really happened and we never will, and a lot of people are reading/listening to one side and deciding the other side is terrible

I don't think Kate does much I've never thought she was a rolemodel for women. The difference is she knows she's privileged. She doesn't have grievances and keeps her head down focusing on her children and enjoying the lifestyle the RF has given her.

This, those DCs are very young.

your equivalence should be Kate. What has she done?

Not whinged about how hard done by she is.

Not surprising given how little she actually does?

Narcissists can never see their own bad behaviour or wrongdoing

Someone said earlier that the UK trends on Twitter were all Sussex related. I think that person is looking at the trends on the "For You" tab which is trends that interest them. If you search and follow Sussex related accounts, that tab suggests Sussex content iyswim.

UK Twitter trends right now is dominated by sport. Accession Council , Cameron, Church of Scotland, Penny Mordaunt and Bank Holiday are in the top 30 which fits with the events of the day.

I can’t stand Andrew but to his credit he apologised to the Queen and by all accounts did all he could to atone for his sins, and try to make it up to her. There is no doubt how much he adored her, and of everyone I suspect he will struggle the most ( particularly as she is no longer around to bail him out)

Have we heard a similar apology from Harry or Meghan? Of course not, because they are far from sorry, they are only just getting started.

I can’t stand the simpering about beloved Granny whilst simultaneously blowing up her whole family in front of the world. It’s a hideous, deceitful, gas lighting combination. I find it shocking. I can’t move past it.

Maybe Harry did a DNA test and this is behind the anger. It’s not normal to be so bitter.

And let’s not forget that their mouthpiece Scobie has a new book in the offing .

Correct; Harry and Meghan were in Düsseldorf promoting the Invictus Games. CNN initially reported - after the announcement in Parliament of the Queen's decline but before the announcement of her death - that the Duke and Duchess of Sussex would travel directly from Germany to Scotland (this was an add-on to a roundup of who was already at Balmoral and who was planning to go). It's not the same situation as, for example, the two of them at home in California deciding who travels to the UK.

Perfectly put