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Feeling sorry for the Duchess of Sussex

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8AndGreat · 10/09/2022 09:22

It must be so surreal for her to be caught in everything that is happening at the moment. I know H&M are controversial to say the least but they came here to do a feel good tour and are now caught up in everything that's going on. If I were Meghan, I'd travel back to the US to be with my dc and leave Harry with trusted family and aids. It was odd that the Sussexes said they'd both travel to Balmoral and the media now say that King Charles said that Meghan wouldn't be welcome. I can understand why as only close family attendee's Balmoral.

To sum it up, I feel sorry for both Harry and Meghan, I think they are out of their depth. Their autobiography will be interesting.

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pawkins · 10/09/2022 15:50

MarieIVanArkleStinks · 10/09/2022 15:38

I don't pity her. I'd admire her for having the gumption to take on the might of the Windsors and their PR machine - as did her deceased MiL before her - excepting that like Diana there's no possibility she'll ever win. The Firm have already used the media to convince a malleable public that every word coming out of her mouth is a lie. I'm not so convinced that either Markle's a pathological liar or the Windsors above all blame.

There's a pattern to all this bearing the large fingerprint of Windsor PR, who play to what they see as people's particular weaknesses and present these to an easily-led public as evidence of unassailable truth. Compare the striking similarity of the rhetoric now surrounding Meghan to that swirling around Diana. She was at best neurotic, at worst had a serious personality disorder, fell out with everyone surrounding her, consulted with quackadoo psychics and embroidered and fabricated stories. Every single observation is identical to the stories now circulating around Meghan (except the psychics have been replaced with yoga and new-age mindfulness). Interestingly enough, these striking similarities are one thing about which few people have seen fit to comment.

There is documented evidence of racism in that family involving several members: the Queen Mother, Philip, Michael of Kent, possibly Camilla, not excluding Harry himself. Yet people are determined to believe H&M's claims to having experienced racism are outright lies, despite voluminous evidence to the contrary (more recently the racist brooch). I'm surprised it so seldom occurs to anyone that H&M might be in any way justifiably pissed off.

Not that people's family squabbles are that interesting. But the power and might of the Windsors, who pretend to have no power, deserves sunlight as just another reason why this feudal, anti-democratic system has had its day.

In H&M's shoes, with the Queen gone, I'd leave after her funeral and never set foot on British soil again.

Great post.

SueSaid · 10/09/2022 15:51

Wonder if H might use this time to try and redeem his reputation. If he is seen to be supporting his family quietly and respectfully then great. I think most people would welcome seeing them put their differences behind them and unite for their df's sake.

You just get the unsettling feeling the whole situation will be yet another slight, another gripe to air in an article or a podcast in the months to come.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/09/2022 15:51

They also didn’t want Kate there.

The children had their first day at school, understandable she stayed as they would be hearing it 2nd hand otherwise.

Blossomtoes · 10/09/2022 15:52

In H&M's shoes, with the Queen gone, I'd leave after her funeral and never set foot on British soil again.

We can but hope.

Festoonlights · 10/09/2022 15:53

I wonder why anyone would post such an incendiary thread. Most people are keeping a lid on their horror at the level of H&M’s breathtaking narcissism out of respect for the Queen.

Meghan controls Harry and proceedings even the briefest glance at their body language would tell you that, and the fact is Harry has sacrificed absolutely everything and she has ended up with everything on her own terns - he has lost everything.
Meghan didn’t want to miss this great historical moment to share the lucrative spin offs at a later date. There was no way she was going to be left out. ‘what Meghan wants, Meghan gets’ as Harry famously said - well not this time baby.
Hence why it took Harry so long to get there. It’s obvious. He was no don’t negotiating to get her there, and both were so close being in London at the time - it’s very easy to charter a jet or helicopter within the hour from Biggin Hill Farnborough to Scotland 247, and yet it took him most of the day .

One day we will find out the truth, and it won’t be pretty.

BellePeppa · 10/09/2022 15:54

inkworks273 · 10/09/2022 15:07

I feel so sorry for both Harry and Meghan.

The way they have been treated has been disgraceful. In my opinion it's due to William's jealousy that Harry was outshining him.

The royal family have used the media to smear Meghan and make her life so bad that her and Harry had to flee to America for the sake of their mental health.

Is she perfect? Of course not. No one is but people jump on any opportunity to make her look bad and it's just so blatant that I can't believe so many people fall for it.

Dear Lord are the Sugars infecting MN now? I don’t remember William going on National TV bitching about his father or brother. I don’t remember Catherine going on a talk show to bitch about Harry or Meghan? I don’t remember Catherine giving seven minute speeches all about herself instead of the charity they’re supposed to speaking about? To think William could ever be jealous of Harry is laughable. I know which brother looks trapped, bored and unhappy with his life and it isn’t William,

Festoonlights · 10/09/2022 15:54

No doubt

Familycrapti · 10/09/2022 15:54

I can’t get past the fact that Harry was here in the UK and yet had no plans to visit his ailing grandmother. Apparently because of the row over his police protection.

He must have known it was unlikely that he would ever see his grandmother again.

Wounding petulant behaviour that has come back to bite him.

Festoonlights · 10/09/2022 15:55

Familycrapti · 10/09/2022 15:54

I can’t get past the fact that Harry was here in the UK and yet had no plans to visit his ailing grandmother. Apparently because of the row over his police protection.

He must have known it was unlikely that he would ever see his grandmother again.

Wounding petulant behaviour that has come back to bite him.

I agree

MissingNashville · 10/09/2022 15:55

🙄 Why do people insist on making up what they think is happening and pretending to know how anyone feels.

Meghan and Harry are adults, they have a whole life together with children. He’ll go to the funeral presumably and regardless of whatever else happens, he’ll go back to his life with his wife and children.

Some of the things on this thread, what on earth is going on in your heads.😬

Sporty2022 · 10/09/2022 15:56

lifeturnsonadime · 10/09/2022 15:50

The King Or Queens eldest child is next in line to the throne, followed by their eldest child.In the Queens case, Charles.

Her other three children were never likely to become King or Queen and nor were their children. As soon as William was born he was
next in line after Charles.

Yes and none of that changes the fact that Harry was likely at Balmoral to support HIS father the King which is why he was there and not his cousins.

Yes but I was responding to someone’s question.

BellePeppa · 10/09/2022 15:58

Bookworm777 · 10/09/2022 15:43

You mean the ones widely discredited as being photoshopped?

No idea🤷‍♀️

Snog · 10/09/2022 15:58

There's no evidence at all that Kate was not able to accompany her husband to Balmoral if she and William had wanted that.
I think it far more likely that they decided between the two of them that their priority was for her to stay at Windsor and support their children since they had recently moved house and the children had all started just this week at a new school.

Sporty2022 · 10/09/2022 16:01

To be fair though, I respect the Royal Family but couldn’t care about their family politics.

Their all wealthy people and in privileged positions, whilst the rest of us are worried about heating costs and food costs.

Its not as if they will read or care for our opinions on a forum.

Snog · 10/09/2022 16:02

It's also likely that Meghan was not allowed to stay at Balmoral since she would likely weaponise this opportunity to create her own "content".

HappyHamsters · 10/09/2022 16:02

Who didnt want Kate there? Was it ever an option, I dont recall her or William spokesperson saying that she would be there or they would be travelling together. I imagine she and William are a bit more sensitive, aware and intelligent to make this about them

GameBoy · 10/09/2022 16:03

No sympathy here. I don't engage with the right-wing tabloid press, but base my judgement on what I see of her from direct interviews and statements. Her self-centredness is clear. She talked about how she turned up in the RF after marrying Harry and basically said "here I am, a successful US actress and person of colour, you can use me to be the new modern face of this institution" and was then surprised when they politely declined. She clearly had no understanding of the workings of the RF and then had a hissy fit when it didn't work out how she had planned.
You don't need to be a psychologist to see the body language and spot the falsehoods when she speaks - she's a good actress, but the cracks still appear in the facade.

I don't doubt there was perhaps some awkwardness, or maybe even some unintended racism, but if Meghan had found a way to rise above it (as someone like Michelle Obama would have done) then people would have more sympathy.
Rushing to Oprah and Netflix with 'her truth' is just trashy.

If I feel sorry for anyone it's actually Harry. He reminds me of a family member who has been similarly drawn into a relationship which may prove to be a hollow promise. I think Harry probably saw William and Kate all settled with family and panicked, rushing into the relationship with all the US glitz and celeb appeal.
He looks so torn and unhappy and really seems to have no purpose or sense of direction in his new life. Once you strip away his royal military and charitable patronages he really has nothing - no skills, no experience or training - he's just another LA celeb famous for being famous!

PeekAtYou · 10/09/2022 16:03

They also didn’t want Kate there.

I'd imagine that Catherine wanted to tell her kids the news rather than have the nanny do it. The kids are old enough that they might have turned on a tv or gone online after school so needed to hear the news from her and consoled.

yourestandingonmyneck · 10/09/2022 16:03

moisttoilettissue · 10/09/2022 10:04

The fact that she fully intended to go up there (before being told no) is just galling really. The woman has some brass neck that's for sure!

I tend to agree.

I have no strong feelings about Meghan. But regardless of whether she was in the right or wrong or whatever, there is no denying that her actions caused the Queen considerable distress in the final years of her life. I can't get my head around the fact that she would impose herself on the queen / the queens children at a time like that. Just shows a complete lack of self awareness.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/09/2022 16:04

Familycrapti · 10/09/2022 15:54

I can’t get past the fact that Harry was here in the UK and yet had no plans to visit his ailing grandmother. Apparently because of the row over his police protection.

He must have known it was unlikely that he would ever see his grandmother again.

Wounding petulant behaviour that has come back to bite him.

I agree.

perturbed1 · 10/09/2022 16:04

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Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 10/09/2022 16:08

The fact that she fully intended to go up there (before being told no) is just galling really. The woman has some brass neck that's for sure!

I hope to god that's not true. If it is, it's shows the complete disregard for the damage their behaviour has done. Can't believe she could ever have thought she'd be welcome

DreadingWinter · 10/09/2022 16:10

custardbear · 10/09/2022 09:49

Call me cynical but I'm waiting for Megain to rub her hands and glean what she can from this, she's greedy, narcissistic, jumps on bandwagons rather than doing the leg work of being humanistic from her own achievements .. probably because there are none that give her the kudos she soooo craves!

I feel for Harry, the foolish sap, caught up in this web Megan spins to get her treasures - she'll use him for as long as he's useful, spit him out and move on
There are flames in their wake ... it's nobody else's fault, it's their own, but narcissists never see that and they lie well to make themselves credible

I never take comments seriously when the writer can't spell Meghan.

lightisnotwhite · 10/09/2022 16:13

I think they’ll be fine now.
Meghans now got a prize ; a Prince and Princess to make the most of back in the States. Harry has a father on the throne who he knows can’t cut him off without personal distress. Different from a more remote grandparent.
Hopefully they’ll go back and crack on being “celebrities”.

CatherineMorland · 10/09/2022 16:13

Familycrapti · 10/09/2022 15:54

I can’t get past the fact that Harry was here in the UK and yet had no plans to visit his ailing grandmother. Apparently because of the row over his police protection.

He must have known it was unlikely that he would ever see his grandmother again.

Wounding petulant behaviour that has come back to bite him.

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