Prince Archie & Princess Lilibet?

[susan12345678]

Surely not?

I look forward to Harry's announcement explaining that they will decline prince and princess titles for their DC, in keeping with their decision to stand down as senior royals and live private lives in the US.

Anything less under the circumstances would be rank hypocrisy

Meghan chooses not to use her Princess title because she is Princess Henry and not Princess Meghan and she doesn't like this.

Could this be more pathetic ? People just make up things about a stranger.

Farmerazza that's a bit rich coming from someone who says derogatory things about other posters

Exactly plus behind the scenes there will be plans being made involving W and C.
Obviously I am not party to them but I did read that they will be undertaking tours of Australia and Canada . We need to remember that C and C are in their 70s so W and C will have to do a lot of the heavy lifting in the coming years.
It’s far more important to get the Heir’s title correct quickly than others further down the LOS.

I think it's pretty bloody obvious that the title Princess Husbandsfirstname is so gopping that anyone would dislike it and not use it.

Whether or not she'd like or use a different princess title is pretty irrelevant as there isn't one available to her

I thought exactly the same.

The only one I can think of who uses the Princess Hisname title is Princess Michael and being an utter snob is the best thing you could say about her. The Queen once joked that she was "a bit grand for us".

Name one derogatory thing I said about another poster!
I HAVE been called all sorts of things here by certain posters - I couldn't give flying duck! For all I know they are 99 year old far right posters with other agendas. Why should I care?

She only uses that as The Queen did not confer a Dukedom Michael when he married . Had HM not given Harry a Dukedom, then MM would have been Princess Henry.

The racist! Then William said they are not a racist family - you could just laugh!

I think Princess Henry is lovely and seems her supporters like it. It's currently trending. The thing is, those who do not like her will never have anything positive to say about her it doesn't matter what the topic is.

Perhaps you could name one derogatory thing I have said about Meghan given your recent lies in that regard?

Oh and you told me there was 'something not right' about me on another thread.

Now your go.

I think Princess Henry is lovely and seems her supporters like it.

That’s great for them and you, but for me and possibly many others it sounds as outdated as referring to Princess Eugenie as Mrs Jack Brooksbank. I didn’t change my name when I got married though, so my preferences are clear!

Also, given Meghan has formerly dismissed girls dreaming of being princesses as childhood fantasy, such as the endless conversations around “Princess Kate”, and also didn’t change her name after her first marriage, I would be surprised if it’s something she would choose for herself either. People do constantly retain the capacity to surprise me though!

She doesn't need to use it at all. She can go by her ordinary name like the untitled royals. She's married to the Queen's cousin, she's nowhere near Harry in the line of succession. If she weren't so offensive nobody would even know who she bloody is.

There’s very few in history who had to use it as so many were already Princesses in their own right.

It would have been interesting to see if, had Meghan not converted that’s the route they went down as PMOK didn’t get a Dukedom because he married a Catholic divorcee. I very much doubt it though, especially as even if she hadn’t Harry’s place in the succession wouldn’t have been removed.

That’s great for them and you, but for me and possibly many others it sounds as outdated as referring to Princess Eugenie as Mrs Jack Brooksbank.

That makes me cringe so much.

They even referred to Zara as 'Mrs Michael Tindall' when she gave birth. So she didn't even deserve her own name when doing the most uniquely 'female' thing.

One thing I hope Charles does is amend the laws so that women get to hold and pass on titles in their own right. As things stand, when William is king, Louis' children will get to be prince or princess, but Charlotte's would not, even though she outranks him. Not sure if it would be within Charles' power to do that, however, as it seems to be the convention in the whole British aristocracy, where, with rare exceptions, only men hold titles in their own right.

Meghan attended a Catholic school but was never Catholic herself.

I don't think it's known what religion, if any, she was raised in. But she was never a Catholic.

If Letters Patent can correct the issue of male primogeniture, they must be able to sort this out too. It's the same issue.

I don't think the issue of male primogeniture was decided just by Letters Patent, was it? Didn't it have to be approved by the governments of all the overseas realms, as it involved a change to the Act of Succession?

Yes you can stop now. I don't want to engage and I won't.

Letters Patent didn’t deal with primogeniture.

People talk as if the Queen just fired them out and fixed it. It didn’t. It took an act of Parliament to amend the succession and Bill of Rights.

Titles can be passed to women if they are created to do so. Lord Mountbatten’s Earl of Burma title was specifically created to pass to his eldest daughter as it was clear when he was given it that he wouldn’t have sons.

In other words you have no further argument to put forward.

Ah, thank you for correcting me.

I think it was the case that she converted to Judaism prior to her previous marriage so that might be what is meant by her 'conversion' ori t could mean nothing more than she was formally accepted into the Church of England.

I could have sworn Archie and Lili are Prince and Princess already. Any move Charles makes will be to take those titles away.

One thing I hope Charles does is amend the laws so that women get to hold and pass on titles in their own right. As things stand, when William is king, Louis' children will get to be prince or princess, but Charlotte's would not, even though she outranks him. Not sure if it would be within Charles' power to do that, however, as it seems to be the convention in the whole British aristocracy, where, with rare exceptions, only men hold titles in their own right

I think this is one he could do.

New Letters Patent saying that grandchildren of a monarch, in both male and female line, can have style of prince/ss.

But I think it's more likely - slimmed down monarch and all that - that the change would be for it to be grandchildren of the monarch in the direct line of succession to be prince/ss. So George's DC would all have that royal style, and none of the DC of younger siblings (though they might get aristocratic titles if a parent was ennobled on marriage)

They are and you are correct - any LP's would be a removal of titles for them. The questions is how they will be styled - if they'll use them or if they'll go down the Wessex route of lesser titles, or a new route of not using titles at all.