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The royal family

Prince Archie & Princess Lilibet?

387 replies

susan12345678 · 09/09/2022 10:07

Surely not?

I look forward to Harry's announcement explaining that they will decline prince and princess titles for their DC, in keeping with their decision to stand down as senior royals and live private lives in the US.

Anything less under the circumstances would be rank hypocrisy

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Snog · 21/09/2022 12:53

I expect that if H&M didn't want fancy titles for their kids they would have made this known by now.

Snog · 21/09/2022 13:01

M&H constantly their Duke and Duchess titles. They don't use HRH not because this is their choice but because they were told not to by the Queen.

Meghan chooses not to use her Princess title because she is Princess Henry and not Princess Meghan and she doesn't like this. Harry of course does use Prince Harry.

Both seem pretty fanatically wed to having the best titles they can get for themselves and their dc and milking this for financial gain and to open doors.

"Just call me Harry" and his wife could voluntarily cease to use their titles at any time - they chose not to. I think this action says everything.

Roussette · 21/09/2022 13:17

Snog · 21/09/2022 12:53

I expect that if H&M didn't want fancy titles for their kids they would have made this known by now.

It could be the opposite. If they did want fancy titles for their kids they would have made this known by now. We will see won't we?

I imagine they have just got home to their children they have not seen for 3 weeks and that is their priority.

Snog · 21/09/2022 13:29

Not really Rousette.
Renouncing titles would be a show of independence and strength, begging for them a show of weakness.

Roussette · 21/09/2022 13:32

As I said, we will see.

notanotheroneagain · 21/09/2022 14:05

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antelopevalley · 21/09/2022 15:26

Edward tried to make it independently and failed.

Snog · 21/09/2022 17:33

@notanotheroneagain
"If the titles are the only reasons they can succeed, how come we are not seeing the same level of success for other HRHs Princess."

Do you mean Beatrice and Eugenie? I don't think either of them is looking to exploit their royal titles for profit.
They seem happy to live relatively private lives with their families and to enjoy their current level of wealth and privilege.

notanotheroneagain · 21/09/2022 18:22

They did not become top management straight form uni through hard work if that is what you are implying. They did get on top thanks to their royal connections.

Peter did not sell milk in china from a palace just out of his own fame. Nor did he get contracts for covid test etc. out of the blue, when he is not qualified in that department.

Zara had good success with her horse riding merch, though she was selling it all over the world, I don't think she got quite as much profit tbh.

Even their podcasts did not get that popular (Mike/Zara and Eugenie)

Snog · 21/09/2022 18:51

I think milking your royal connections whilst running down the RF is uniquely something that M&H do.

TheWheeledAvenger · 21/09/2022 19:14

Snog · 19/09/2022 20:22

@TheWheeledAvenger hahaha

Thanks for providing yet more proof that you have no response to make, and no evidence for your weird lies about Meghan.

People around the world needed to know how to address William and Kate. That is an important consideration.

Really? Who exactly are all these "people around the world" who had urgent reason to refer to Kate as "Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge" rather than "Duchess of Cambridge" during the less than 24 hour period where she held as her primary title? Who are these hoards of people who need to have formal communication with Kate, who rely upon Twitter as their sole source of information? Most people around the world and even the press still call her by her maiden name and yet amazingly the world keeps turning. It's only dignitaries and heads of state who need to get exact titles correct and they would not be using Twitter as a source.

TheWheeledAvenger · 21/09/2022 19:15

Snog · 21/09/2022 13:01

M&H constantly their Duke and Duchess titles. They don't use HRH not because this is their choice but because they were told not to by the Queen.

Meghan chooses not to use her Princess title because she is Princess Henry and not Princess Meghan and she doesn't like this. Harry of course does use Prince Harry.

Both seem pretty fanatically wed to having the best titles they can get for themselves and their dc and milking this for financial gain and to open doors.

"Just call me Harry" and his wife could voluntarily cease to use their titles at any time - they chose not to. I think this action says everything.

For someone who hates them you sure do seem keen to claim to know exactly what they think and feel.

Snog · 21/09/2022 19:18

@TheWheeledAvenger I don't hate M&H. Why are you trying to whip up hatred?
I'm just giving an opinion on their behaviour.

TheWheeledAvenger · 21/09/2022 19:21

You don't hate her, you just regularly make posts slagging her off, making untrue claims about her, and claiming to know her thoughts.

Cool story bro.

Snog · 21/09/2022 19:34

@TheWheeledAvenger I'm not the one who gets their posts deleted for personal attacks.

Our opinions don't match and that's OK.

NiqueNique · 21/09/2022 19:46

This is a matter of protocol and admin, nothing more. The manner in which to address or refer to the heir to the throne and his wife upon the death of a Queen and the ascension of a King is a far more important consideration to many around the world than whether or not two children have been given titles that their parents may or may not want for them. That is why those changes would have been made as quickly as possible, to reflect the instantaneous shift in titles, roles, and responsibilities within the Royal household. Interesting, too, that you make it about Kate, when really it’s much more about William.

Of course if you don’t think the constitutional monarchy of Great Britain should exist and that it’s all a load of nonsense then that’s a wholly valid viewpoint. But as it stands, it does. And as such there are certain protocols that are followed. Because these things actually matter within the framework as it stands. It’s been an intensely busy week for the family and government and courtiers. Matters pertaining to Harry and Meghan, who are no longer working royals, and those pertaining to their very young children, are really not top priority right now.

That is said without any rancour or malice whatsoever and is simply a reflection of reality.

TheWheeledAvenger · 21/09/2022 20:01

Snog · 21/09/2022 19:34

@TheWheeledAvenger I'm not the one who gets their posts deleted for personal attacks.

Our opinions don't match and that's OK.

Please explain why the statement "Meghan frequently refers to herself as "a princess"" is an opinion?

It is not an opinion. You made a statement of fact that you cannot back up with proof.

If you had proof you would post it, but instead you've made personal attacks and are now playing the victim.

Farmerazza · 21/09/2022 20:08

notanotheroneagain · 21/09/2022 18:22

They did not become top management straight form uni through hard work if that is what you are implying. They did get on top thanks to their royal connections.

Peter did not sell milk in china from a palace just out of his own fame. Nor did he get contracts for covid test etc. out of the blue, when he is not qualified in that department.

Zara had good success with her horse riding merch, though she was selling it all over the world, I don't think she got quite as much profit tbh.

Even their podcasts did not get that popular (Mike/Zara and Eugenie)

Hang on a minute - they got COVID contracts too?

Snog · 21/09/2022 20:09

@TheWheeledAvenger it's not my job to provide you with any links, whether you demand that or not. If you want to spend your own time doing this go ahead.

I did cite The Cut interview so if you want to go and read that you will find what I said is true. You conveniently ignored this.

I'm not "playing the victim" why would you say that I wonder? Is it because this is often said about M&H? And of course it is you who has posted personal attacks against me and had your posts deleted.

Roussette · 21/09/2022 20:35

Farmerazza · 21/09/2022 20:08

Hang on a minute - they got COVID contracts too?

Yes.

www.thenational.scot/news/19339012.queens-grandson-access-tories-vip-lane-covid-contracts/

notanotheroneagain · 21/09/2022 21:28

It was so surreal for me, finding out about this one. Just by chance.

During Covid, I had to take a test, and the nearest one was this chelsea branch, just around the corner from my house. It cost an eye watering amount - comparatively, over £200 a pop for sure.

I know, I saw it, and booked, but changed at the last minute. It was there.
The press made a big deal out of it, and I think they dissolved the company. He was involved in PPE as well. I remember at the time thinking, how can he be, don't recall him having any sort of medical/science background.

Coronateachingagain · 23/09/2022 00:16

No new little princes or princesses in sight. Guess they have been playing with fire.

Farmerazza · 23/09/2022 03:19

Snog · 21/09/2022 13:01

M&H constantly their Duke and Duchess titles. They don't use HRH not because this is their choice but because they were told not to by the Queen.

Meghan chooses not to use her Princess title because she is Princess Henry and not Princess Meghan and she doesn't like this. Harry of course does use Prince Harry.

Both seem pretty fanatically wed to having the best titles they can get for themselves and their dc and milking this for financial gain and to open doors.

"Just call me Harry" and his wife could voluntarily cease to use their titles at any time - they chose not to. I think this action says everything.

Is this a lie - I have never heard Meghan say she doesn't like using her title because she is Princess Henry. You are writing this like it's a fact hahaha - you just hate a stranger that much?

Snog · 23/09/2022 05:46

Farmerazza
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Is this a lie - I have never heard Meghan say she doesn't like using her title because she is Princess Henry. You are writing this like it's a fact hahaha - you just hate a stranger that much?"

Hate? Farmerazza it's very clearly you who is trying to whip up hate where there is none. Why the inappropriate and overly dramatic language? Are you OK?

Readinginthesun · 23/09/2022 07:00

Snog · 21/09/2022 13:29

Not really Rousette.
Renouncing titles would be a show of independence and strength, begging for them a show of weakness.

I agree and I would admire them for it .

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