What’s likely to be cancelled?

[Muchtoomuchtodo]

Do I bother travelling 10 hours this weekend (5 hours each way) to take dc to a fairly niche sporting event? It’s the national championship. How likely do you think it is that it’ll be cancelled following the death of the Queen? I need to leave by midday tomorrow.

Absolutely. It’s not ‘respect’ to stop everything. Life goes on. Stopping everything doesn’t necessarily denote respect. Mostly it looks like a knee jerk being seen to care rather than anything meaningful.

People have worked bloody hard to train for an organise something like the GNR, many of them to raise what will amount to considerable sums for charities. The respectful thing to do would be to acknowledge the circumstances with an announcement and silence before the race.

In fact, that’s probably more respectful than just postponing or cancelling it. They can actually include meaningful elements into it. You would imagine the queen would have very much supported all the people raising money for charity too.

‘it’s called respect’ is being used to stop people thinking critically or questioning anything across MN. i note that none of the posters doing seem to recognise that going on MN to pull people up about ‘respect’ because they’re concerned that things that matter to them might be cancelled is hardly modelling the behaviour they want to see in others. Wouldn’t it be more appropriate for
those so concerned about showing respect by closing everything to respectfully take a national mourning break from buggering about on the internet (or just accept that people will have different opinions)?

I think it's more about practicalities than respect, at least in some cases. If resources are needed to manage crowds and traffic due to events surrounding the period of mourning, then those resources aren't available for managing the other things.

I agree it is a shame for participants and spectators who have invested time, effort, and money in the events and I hope there won't be too many cancellations being made lightly.

I was referring to next weekend and Delphigirl was referring to a week on Monday the 19th so we do have a grasp of the situation.

From the news 17/18/19 all look like potential dates for it to happen hence the panic over the uncertainty.

A major fundraising bicycle ride in Norfolk is going ahead as the best way to honour the Queen.

Surely it would be better Great North run to go ahead.
People will be running for family members who have died. Charities are desperate for the money raised, especially after covid.

Like a few others here, I'm due to do the Great North Run on Sunday. I saw the official Great Run account tweet last night saying that they were unsure whether or not it would still be going ahead, and they had a lot of angry replies, but it's really not the fault of the organisers if it does get called off. I will be really really disappointed if it doesn't go ahead, having waited 45 years to finally do it, but what will be will be. And I've already taken so many people's very kindly given donations for my charity, and don't know what will happen to all of that. I have spent the past week trying not to get injured or ill, I wasn't expecting this to be the reason I don't get to do it! It's a really sad thing that we've lost the Queen, but I'm sure she would want all the charities to get their much needed money, and for us to be able to do the run we've all worked so hard for. It would be a great tribute to her to celebrate life, not just her life, just life! Please let it go ahead.

it’s called respect’ is being used to stop people thinking critically or questioning anything across MN. i note that none of the posters doing seem to recognise that going on MN to pull people up about ‘respect’ because they’re concerned that things that matter to them might be cancelled is hardly modelling the behaviour they want to see in others. Wouldn’t it be more appropriate for
those so concerned about showing respect by closing everything to respectfully take a national mourning break from buggering about on the internet (or just accept that people will have different opinions)

@SudocremOnEverything Spot on. Just the same as #BeKind, "you sound vile" and "if you can't say anything nice say nothing at all".

A lot of this is attempting to virtue signal.

We're adults.

Totally agree, it would have been a huge tribute to her.

Yes, that's a week on Monday, not this Monday as the poster suggested (in relation to another poster asking about cancellation/travel)

Local carnival is cancelled on Saturday, absolutely ridiculous to cancel it two days before. People will have spent money on costumes to take part, local business will have spent money to have stock for their stalls etc.
Money wasted on paying for all the stuff they need to do for the carnival to go ahead, road closures etc.
Not to mention that it's just such a shame for the children, it's already been cancelled for two years because of covid.

Has anyone noticed the announcement from Buckingham Palace that a "period of royal mourning will be observed from now until seven days after the Queen's funeral, the date of which will be confirmed at a later day".

So if the funeral is on the 17th / 19th / 19th, the period of royal mourning will last until the 24th / 25th / 26th September.

How many events do we expect will get cancelled / postponed in the next fortnight?

Except that the people working on zero hours contract are almost certainly going to be more financially vulnerable than those people thrilled to get a paid day off.

We have been through one of the most testing financial periods ever, starting from the financial crisis in 2008 and more recently the pandemic, the Russian war and Brexit. People are going from pay check to pay check. It's maybe ok if you're on a salary, it won't make any difference but there are increasing numbers on wages and they can't afford to lose even one.

My running event on Sunday has been postponed

It’s just been confirmed that our event will be going ahead with a minutes silence before things start tomorrow.

That feels appropriate to me.

I’d better get packing!

The official guidance on the National Mourning period is out.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/the-demise-of-her-majesty-queen-elizabeth-ii-national-mourning-guidance

It says in general terms:
Nevertheless, mourning is very personal and we anticipate individuals, families, communities and organisations may want to mark Her Majesty’s demise in their own way. There is no expectation on the public or organisations to observe specific behaviours during the mourning period.

It then goes on to say:
There is no obligation on organisations to suspend business during the National Mourning period. Depending on the nature and location of their business and the tone of planned events, some businesses may wish to consider closing or postponing events, especially on the day of the State Funeral, however this is at the discretion of individual businesses.

And:
There is no obligation to cancel or postpone events and sporting fixtures, or close entertainment venues during the National Mourning period. This is at the discretion of individual organisations.

As a mark of respect, organisations might wish to consider cancelling or postponing events or closing venues on the day of the State Funeral. They are under no obligation to do so and this is entirely at the discretion of individual organisations.

If sporting fixtures or events are planned for the day of the State Funeral, organisations may want to adjust the event timings so they do not clash with the timings of the funeral service and associated processions.

As a mark of respect, and in keeping with the tone of National Mourning, organisers may wish to hold a period of silence and/or play the National Anthem at the start of events or sporting fixtures, and players may wish to wear black armbands.

The emphasis is on the word MAY and the phrase 'under no obligation'.

This also means that if you want to go ahead with a party or celebration, crack on its fine as the King has said so in line with the Queen's wishes before her death (and thats the best defence you have if you come across an ultra Royalist).

National mourning is for the nation. Royal mourning is for the family, their households and some branches of the armed forces and the King's representatives.

So National Mourning is 10 days and this hasn't changed. And you are under no obligation to do anything if you don't want to.

Royal mourning is different from a national mourning, the Royal mourning will be longer and continue within the family only., not the whole country.

This sounds right. I'm pleased.

Yes. "Be respectful you deranged cunt!!!" "Be kind you bitch!!"

I don't mind if people want to grief in a certain way or have set ideas about what's respectful but it does make me laugh when I see posters using the word respectful in posts that also use abusive language. Do they not realise how it makes them look?

Well even the Royal Family have said you can do what the fuck you like and you don't have to be a gloom cloud for the entire time of the mourning period if you don't want to.

I think the Queen was very much a positive and "business as usual" kind of person so imagine as far as practicalities allow she would have wanted things to go ahead.

The Great North Run is going ahead on Sunday, which I think is the right decision, but not the childrens' Mini and Junior runs tomorrow. Seems very very unfair and no explanation as to why the kids don't get to run.

Shortage of volunteer marshals so they've condensed them to Sunday

I’m glad there ‘s guidance. I think cancelling things was appropriate until we got the official “we would like you to go ahead”. Pleases everyone.

I'm self employed. If I cancel I don't get paid. If my customers cancel I don't get paid.

If I don't get paid I can't pay personal bills or my tax bill.

The bills that allow me to live and the tax that contributes towards things like the royal family, the policing of crowds gathering to pay respect, the changes now needed to the currency etc etc.

So I'm not waiting for anyones permission not to cancel.