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With another podcast set for release this week, The Sunday Times has a piece addressing Harry and Meghan's apparent strategy:

Courtiers are bemused by the Sussexes’ determination to rage against the past. As Davis observed of Meghan in her article: “She has taken a hardship and turned it into content.” A source who knows the Sussexes questions why Meghan “is constantly looking back at how awful it was to briefly be a royal. What does success look like, is it a number in the bank? Is it that they’ve killed off the monarchy?” Another Palace source says: “Ultimately they are bashing the institution that has put them in the position they’re in, the longevity of that strategy is not sustainable.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-keep-bashing-the-monarchy-because-its-good-business-royals-believe-nq29p6g7z

I'm curious about their strategy, too. They seem to think that criticizing the royal makes them look better - it really doesn't. Instead, it just makes them look petty and increasingly irrelevant.

Surely she put out a podcast to have people listen to it and have opinions about it. Or are we not allowed, unless we have the right opinions about it?

It's a bit of a shame that at a time she is releasing content with valid and interesting discussion about her experience of racism as a mixed race woman... then drops that clanger in the cut article about Mandela which massively misrepresents the experience of black South Africans and the relevance of her privilege to their reality. Reducing a nation's struggle for racial equality to an extra in the Meghan show.

Its quite tiresome that some posters repeatedly claim on any Meghan threads that any and all negative comments about Meghan's behaviour are racist.
Also tiresome that the same posters seek to constantly compare her to Prince Andrew.
Meghan fangirls?
Sunshine Sachs?

Agree .
I used to have a member of staff who screamed racism and bullying any time she wasn’t happy . It was so wearisome not just for me but for the rest of the team who thought she was getting away with stuff ( poor time keeping for example ) because of her claims .

'I agree. I would hate the lack of freedom to just go out and do whatever I wanted at a moment’s notice. The lack of privacy with security and staff about all the time.'

Yes and the media criticism which they all endured, imagine if Camilla had tried to set the record straight after the vindictive bullying she received. Most ignored and so it died down.

The Sussexes keep the whole thing going by constantly harping on about how hard done to they were.

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And Sarah Ferguson, well my god. I can't think of anybody who has been ridiculed so much across basically every press outlet. I'm not actually sure how she survived. She attempted to break free from it with a life in the states, but was ridiculed about that too. And virtually every article about her for years and years and years talked about her appearance - and none of it positive. The fat shaming she got wasn't even subtle. For years.

I said in other threads IF Fergie had come out with something more recently like a podcast where she talked about herself incessantly, in the age of social media and MN should would be rightly picked apart.
Her and Andrew really are the worst for their lack of self awareness and antics. And they have been criticised, there were long running threads on Andrew and his embarrassing interview, links with Epstein etc.

Harry and Meghan are just in the news regularly because they keep speaking to the media, putting out 'content' and are younger and more current etc. That's why they are being discussed.

She did give an interview talking about the racism she experienced after a black actor was cast as her father on "Suits"

I wasn't aware of that one, and thanks for including Meghan's actual words.
So what happened to the suggestion that she hadn't experienced racism before joining the RF ... another lie perhaps?

And why the wish to edit the media headlines backing the Oprah interview? If the coverage was that bad (as some undoubtably has been) surely there'd have been enough to choose from without the need to do that?

As DFOD correctly identified, it's noticeable that support even from the liberal media is fading - but then IMO it was only a matter of time, since to retain credibility there's only so much they can defend

Perhaps they are unable to stop harping on about the past and concentrate on the present and future they are building because they are not happy in the world they have built around around them.

despite their marriage, their mansion, their two children, more wealth than we can ever imagine - something is missing and they have to keep going over the past to try to find the answer.

sometimes you have to let go of the past, to accept that was then and this is now. That you cannot change the past but you can live in the moment and work towards building the future you want.

talking therapy does not work for everyone.

I am still not convinced about that but , if true , agree that letting us know was strange .

Meghan is despised because of her behaviour. Anyone with an ounce of common sense can see right through her. She is a manipulative liar. Her colour has no relevance.

*Me: She said something about not experiencing racism until she started dating Harry in the Mariah one. Not those exact words, but that was what she intended to convey.

Roulette: Well..she was right wasn't she*

That wasn’t the question, though well done for yet another successful redirection of the discussion.

The question was, did Meghan have a pop at the royals in the Mariah podcast, and my opinion is yes, she did.

@LivingOnAnIsland yeah right . No relevance .

I don't know what you are all getting so worked up about re H and M . They've said next to nothing re the royals . Everyone knows the royals are racist . The concept of royalty is an inherently racist idea.

They are waiting until the queen dies .

It all sounds lovely and luxurious, but it's built on the backs of others. The whole RF is an elitist institution rife with privilege unearned. Harry was born into it, Meghan married into it - neither earned it. That's one of the reason's their new branding of liberal, egalitarian, philanthropist, celebrity do-gooder rubs people the wrong way.

I have been flicking through today’s newspaper headlines and cannot see anything positive about H and M other than Hello’s claims they have arrived via a commercial flight ( first class I assume- if true)

Meghan's modus operandi is to exaggerate and play loose with the truth to get attention. This is combined with her strategy of cutting off people if they have 'transgressed' and never attempting to repair relationships but moving on without looking back. It is a very Trumpian style.

She knew well where their money comes from and how the system leeches off others and was happy to get her snout in the trough

Did she though? Remembering that she "didn't even google Harry" - and this from a woman whose use of the net was extensive - perhaps that too was missed?
A pity really that no interviewer's asked about the mismatch between what she professes and what she chose to join, but then if they did they probably wouldn't secure the interview

And yes, TrashyPanda, I've also wondered about just how content they are with their current lives. Like anyone else I hope they're happy, but it's honestly not what their behaviour's signalling to me

You still haven't numbered the thread OP? tut tut 😂

Or titled it what it really is : Another MM bashing thread.

I think that's why their bleating on about 'compassion' all the time gets tiresome. Where's their compassion for their own families? Harry for one used to have a good relationship with his father and brother. Now he seems happy to throw them under the bus to milk his trauma for all it's worth (even while still taking money from his father up until recently). And he knows well they can't answer back with accusations because of their position. Where's the compassion in that?
I'm sure the Queen would love to get some stuff off her chest and have a good rant about people who have pissed her off over the years. She knows she needs to keep her mouth shut and just get on with it. That is the job.

And yet all the regulars like us managed to find our way here....

Exactly. Harry had arguably the misfortune of being born into it - the mature, well educated, politically informed MM actively chose to sell her supposedly left learning, equalitarian, humanitarian soul by marrying into it and greasing their wheels…..and despite leaving is still insistent on inflicting the archaic titles for herself and her DC which effectively by their very existence subjugate others.

Hypocritical virtue signalling to acquire wealth and status is the MO.

Watch the US elites subtly distance themselves from these two (if they haven’t already) so as not to be tarnished by association.

It’s all over for them if the progressive liberal US press are scrutinising their behaviour and finding it lacking…..and they would not go there if they risked triggering or fanning any racist flames.

There is a need to muzzle MM. Hence the liar label. I think everyone is aware that H&M could be just scratching the surface right now.

Here is Harry explaining the concerted effort between the rf and media to smear mm. The press made sure not to talk about the apple MH interview with Oprah.

twitter.com/realfranzprusse/status/1565982974323171333

A few other dogwhistles to change her narrative 'she is despised' - erm, nope, not by many (no matter what dodgy poll the uk produces), as seen from her podcasts viewership.

And are some people trying their best to change her narrative to she's like trump? I'll tell you right now, that is not gonna take off. What was the other one? Yoko - still a no. They won't take off any more than the mrs Simpson one - nice try though.

It really is disgusting that you are making this an issue to do with race. I remember the extremely negative media Fergie got and she's white. Like Meghan she wanted to monetise her brief type within the Royal Family whilst desperately holding onto her Duchess title.

You are patronising Meghan by objecting to any criticism of her behaviour because she's half black.

I suppose her comment alludes to the fact that this is about the podcast - so far the conversation today is nothing about the conversation Meghan had with Mariah the word “diva”.

I asked this question at the end of the last thread but it filled up .
Is it not strange that none of the Royal reporters ( including
Bradby) who accompanied H and M in S Africa have come out to confirm the fire story ?

And this is what we mean “scream racism” like “cry rape” is a problematic statement. These statements invalidate the lived experiences of many and promote a narrative - women cry about rape but we really know that’s not what really happened, black people are always harping on about racism but we all know that it doesn’t really happen - right?

Was your employee incorrect in her assessment that it was her behaviour as opposed to her race which led to her censure? Yes — and you could have said it like this.

But you used the phrase “scream racism”. Interesting.