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With another podcast set for release this week, The Sunday Times has a piece addressing Harry and Meghan's apparent strategy:

Courtiers are bemused by the Sussexes’ determination to rage against the past. As Davis observed of Meghan in her article: “She has taken a hardship and turned it into content.” A source who knows the Sussexes questions why Meghan “is constantly looking back at how awful it was to briefly be a royal. What does success look like, is it a number in the bank? Is it that they’ve killed off the monarchy?” Another Palace source says: “Ultimately they are bashing the institution that has put them in the position they’re in, the longevity of that strategy is not sustainable.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-keep-bashing-the-monarchy-because-its-good-business-royals-believe-nq29p6g7z

I'm curious about their strategy, too. They seem to think that criticizing the royal makes them look better - it really doesn't. Instead, it just makes them look petty and increasingly irrelevant.

Absolutely - the results should have been released.

That assumes the source of this information would be unbiased and credible. Which they have shown they are not.
Also, they haven't been involved in the RF for the last few years, by their own choice they are out of the fold. So how would they know what is going on now?

Also - is Harry supposed to be writing a biography tell all style book? If so, surely it's just going to be more salacious 'truth bombs', as they have already peddled whatever they can in interviews.
Does he really need to splurge more of his 'authentic truth' bullshit?

I work in hospitality and meet many US visitors to the UK. They often mention Meghan Markle. I have yet to meet a single one who has anything positive to say about her.

It is apparent that his behaviour upset her and she used his own bad behaviour (leaking the letter) again to bolster her case in her mind and prove to herself he was unreliable. We wouldn’t know about the letter if he didn’t release it - she didn’t make him release it. She used the Colleen Rooney tactic against him.🤣

Compassion does not equal engagement. I can feel empathy for someone’s difficulty but that does not require me to engage with them if it will cause me harm. Neither does she.

The letter was written for public consumption. Shameful

Because by virtue of being born in the Firm - Harry will be privy to some of secrecy behind things like William preventing reporters from documenting secret meetings he has had with politicians and Charles and his cash in hand charity work. Even though he hasn’t been there for 2 years. And he could share it all - and I hope he does.

I would not equate a couple airing family dirty laundry to an objective view “behind the veil”.

I don’t think we need to know about family interactions of these people. It’s not even reliable, anyway. For example, Meghan complaining about Harry telling her something that happened, for example when his own description does not quite line up.

Absolutely - the results should have been released

Has Meghan called for the findings to be released? If not, that rather tells its own story.

Surely most people in that situation- if falsely accused and confident of their innocence (as she claims to be) would want the findings to be made public, to exonerate her?

Their value is in dishing the dirt and each of these deals will likely have specific content clauses.

Maybe if they become incredibly successful in their own right so that they don't need to trade on the monarch's name, they'll then be able to stop talking or threatening to talk about them. And maybe then they'll be able to reconcile. But I doubt it'll happen before then. Im not sure there's much trust from William's side, especially have the leak to Gayle King, so how is he ever going to speak candidly if he's worried it'll appear on a documentary or in a book.

But hang on - if her father didn’t release it we wouldn’t know about it. How are you blaming her for catching her father out and confirming what she thought? How odd. Of course if he released it she would want to prenatal herself as best as she could. But again if her father didn’t release that letter we wouldn’t have known about it. Seriously.

Excerpts were leaked by friends to a US magazine

I for one think that dirty laundry always needs to be aired for the light to sanitise it.

And he could share it all - and I hope he does.

That implies he's capable of knowing what's going on around him. He didn't know how to get himself or his wife to a psychotherapist even though he was a patron of a mental health charity. He couldn't even agree with Meghan what the truth was behind the racist comment. They had two different stories! He was actually there for that conversation and he still couldn't convey it accurately to his wife - unless she deliberately lied about it.
He's hardly a reliable source of information.

He had the letter for several months and never revealed it to anyone. Then Meghans friends revealed the letter, that Meghan must have told them about, and they spoke about it. Thomas Markle released the letter to show their claims about it were wrong.
So actually, it was not Thomas that told everyone about its existence.

@skullbabe

Her father did hold onto the letter until the infamous people interview by Meghan’s friends (which she knew nothing about 🤣) which slammed him.

A cynic might say she’d written the letter to be released and after six months with nothing don’t the people interview was designed to push his buttons. Luckily the anonymous friends didn’t have to give evidence at the court case 😥 to say they all acted without Meghan’s knowledge

I for one think that dirty laundry always needs to be aired for the light to sanitise it.

Yeah, I always think that...when it's someone else's. 😂
And really that adage is about airing it between the concerned parties, not internationally for the salacious enjoyment of others or to intentionally hurt. There's a reason why courts have closed hearings.

At the time of the allegations Meghan’s spokesperson did say this that they were false and at the time of the report with the palace stating that the review was actually looking at how they deal with allegations in royal households - it would be a hard thing for Meghan to object to because this is how it was phrased.

There was no reference as to whether or not bullying took place, whether there was a perpetrator/s, and who was spoken to about it. The problem with this case is I’m all for transparency in this case but the same opaqueness that applies to the rest of the royals and their doings applies in this case and we will never know.

So again - hang out all the dirty laundry I say.

(I suspect their review opened a can of worms of maybe more than one royal behaving questionably to staff hence the shut down 🤣)

I for one think that dirty laundry always needs to be aired for the light to sanitise it.

How do you define 'dirty laundry'? If you mean dodgy financial dealings, or inappropriate political involvement then yes, we do have the right to know about it. I hardly think Harry would be the right person to do so though, as he's shown himself to be utterly clueless about how the world works.

If you mean personal relationships and behind the scenes tittle tattle, then no, that's not any of our business, much as I enjoy a bit of royal gossip and intrigue myself. And even if it were our business, Harry, as has been pointed out above, is hardly the most reliable of sources.

I think the book won’t happen

I've sometimes wondered the same, but if Harry's been paid an advance for it, what happens to that money then?

And FWIW I'm another who'd like to see a lot more transparency around the RF, but on current form I'm just not convinced that H&M are the people to rely on for an objective, accurate account

I have to deal with quite a few American clients for work and have dinner with them etc and about a quarter of them mention MM and a goodly proportion of that quarter apologise for her! It’s all based around feeling sorry for the Queen basically. And Prince Charles to a lesser degree.

Yes let's hear about criminality, corruption, racism etc. but not tittle tattle about family. I know all too well how damaging gossip can be. I was almost driven to a nervous breakdown by ex friends spreading information about me that was none of their business and didn't harm anyone but me.

At the time of the allegations Meghan’s spokesperson did say this that they were false

That's not correct. There was no explicit denial of the allegations. No threats of legal action either.

At the time of the allegations Meghan’s spokesperson did say this that they were false

Not quite - her spokesperson said that she was saddened by this latest attack on her character. It was a carefully worded non-denial.

Anyway, when she and Harry have Omid Scobie writing pieces like this, why on earth should anyone in the family regard them as anything other than utterly toxic? This falls into the same categories as the Sussexes defaming people who they know are gagged by NDAs - extremely low behaviour.

“There’s a laughable effort to suggest the [Sussexes] have been shunned,” someone familiar with the current family dynamics tells me… "The true story is, they never reached out to the Cambridges.”

“People are desperate for steps to be made but behind the scenes there hasn’t been movement,” explains a family friend. “What [Harry] is waiting for is accountability… Many lines were crossed by William. He was at the centre of a number of painful moments, be it the actions of his own staff or turning his back when support was needed. It was a dark time and one that, so far, William has been unprepared to unpack.”

Regardless what you think - Meghan won her case against the Daily Mail. The daily mail failed in its appeal. Please read the actual judgement and the appeal judgement - the appeal judgement Section 57 and 58 address many of the points in this thread.