More Of Meghan’s Archwell podcasts…

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Just to continue the discussion

Northwestern is a school with an excellent reputation in the United States. I can promise you when we hear someone is going there, most people are impressed. There are higher tier schools but it is very solid.

So no comment then on whether "The person who asserts something needs to provide evidence" also applies to Megan?

Funny that ...

Its been ranked top 10 and has a <10% acceptance rate. Sheesh.

Do people just completely make things up?

I don’t see her as a victim at all. I see her as a very real person who has made some mistakes but I don’t think her mistakes define her nor amount to her being a “scheming manipulator”. She has done nothing that warrants this amount of bashing - I personally have no stake in their lives.

People dehumanise and other people they do not like and use this to justify uncharitable behaviour. This is why I state that she is a very human woman with human motivations and feelings - to remind you that she is not a caricature or an avatar but that she is very much a person. You can criticise people without being perjorative - Serenster being one - I’ve even criticised her myself in this thread. Did you catch it though?

Anyway please enjoy the rest of your afternoon - I’m off to the cinema with the kids and hope you all are ready for school. Can’t believe summer is over and the madness of the school runs is coming back 🤣

@skullbabe I caught it. I think you are quite balanced actually.

As my dc loosely quoted some influencer :
"We are here to make changes for the better. Either you are with us, or get the f out of our way."

Children think they know everything so I sort of expect them to say ridiculous tosh like this.

What's scary is that an adult thinks children know enough that they're able to make decisions about changes.

And if I were her I would not want to go back to living in condos or whatever; no matter how nice. I also wouldn’t want to go back to working as an actress.

I wonder if you would feel the same if acting was truly your passion. I think that when someone is genuinely talented at something, it becomes their drive in life. I’m not convinced Meghan actually enjoyed being an actor as much as the minor fame and attention it brought her.

I'd like to second a recommendation from an earlier thread that is 'The Behavior Panel' on You Tube.

I watch them a lot. They suspended recently because Scott's dad was poorly. But I think they are doing a live appearance so hopefully his,dad has improved.

They were definitely not kind about Meghan on the Oprah interview. They pointed out a lot of inconsistencies in her behaviour - but that doesnt automatically mean she was lying, I have to point out.

If I married a Prince and had two children who were grandchildren of QE? No, I would not want to go back to the life I had before. Maybe it was difficult for Meghan to process this after she first married but it really would be weird for her to go back to entertaining the masses now.

You didn’t see Princess Grace doing this after she married.

I love my own work now but wouldn’t seek to go back to that, either.

It absolutely applies to Meghan - I would happy to ask her personally if I ever meet her but seeing as this is unlikely anyone else is free to directly ask her if they have the opportunity.

Or better yet - how should she address this - a tweet? an instagram post? another podcast?

@MarshaMelrose
I agree re lying. I think MM believes what she says and it is often more about her feelings or wishes.

She felt she earned the right to say she worked her way through school.

She felt her rehearsal was more meaningful.

She felt her wedding was a spectacle. (Even though they are the ones that made that idea seem ridiculous. What Meghan wants, etc. Why make a big deal about tiaras and tights and adding all the non-traditional touches then claim it was for everyone else, not them?)

She feels now that the period after having Archie was a “particularly cruel chapter”.

skullbabe wrote that she is tone deaf and I think that’s apt. I also think she is an unreliable narrator of her own life and particularly when recalling the past.

Princess Grace did want to go back to acting, and wanted to be in the Hitchcock film Marnie in the lead role, but Rainier forbade it. She had been a very successful Oscar winning actress of course. Grace did struggle with adapting to life in Monaco, and was often unhappy and isolated.

”One example is when Mariah Carey called her a diva and Meghan’s response was “WHAT??? How very DARE you call me a diva!!!” and was only placated when Mariah “explained” that she just meant that Meghan looked so absolutely fabulous, and that meant people saw her as a diva (cough cough)”

I listened to the podcast and nope - this was not said. Mariah was explaining why she is so over the top because she grew up poor.

But this is what Meghan said went through her head when Mariah called her a diva. And that she had lost her fangirl crush because she called her a diva. And she expected everyone else was shocked as well. But after MC explained she meant she looked fabulous in appearance, all was right again in Meghan's world.
It was clear in the interview that MM was taken aback. But it was explained and smoothed over so it's funny that it was important to MM that at the end she remind her audience that MC just meant that she looked fabulous and not that she had diva behaviour and that her fangirl crush could, therefore, stay in place.

Don’t we all struggle when our lives are completely changed? I am happily married but still getting used to it 3 years later. And I only moved a mile away from my old house.

Yeah but Grace Kelly did sleep with the leading male of just about every film she did. Maybe Prince Rainer didn't want Princess Grace to do the same!

She has a bachelor's degree from Northwestern university - not a very selective school. So her level of education does not seem that impressive.

🤣🤣 Northwestern is a top 10 university, highly prestigious and selective. Hilarious.

@MarshaMelrose didn’t it seem like Mariah backtracked a bit based on MM’s reaction? Oh, it’s just about the clothes. But no, Diva is about the vibe of being the one that everyone in the room is tiptoeing around. It’s a form of commanding power via fear of what the person might do if they are displeased.

And isn’t that her intention? Example, saying she never signed an NDA and alluding that she has beans to spill. That can only be meant to make the RF fear her.

Of course. What a social and cultural change to go from Hollywood acting to living in a little principality with quite different values. The same for an African American woman moving from California to KP and being part of a family still locked in trappings and traditions which meant little to her. What a shame - for both women.

Possibly a factor in Rainier's resistance, Marsha!

@BlueRidge sorry - missed this I answered her directly but she used they in everything however this was in context of her saying why she soured on Meghan. Hence my comment.

That’s a very dismissive view of these strong, privileged women though. You seem to completely ignore that they both had agency over their own lives and choices. These were not arranged marriages.

I doubt MM is sad she married Harry and I have no doubt she adores her children.

Life is choices.

@MarshaMelrose
Yeah but Grace Kelly did sleep with the leading male of just about every film she did. Maybe Prince Rainer didn't want Princess Grace to do the same!

Good for her. Sounds like she had a full, interesting life before she chose to marry him. Most people do grow up and evolve into different lifestyles.

I think that once Harry disappoints her or fails to validate her then her ire will be turned on him. She is a very great deal more intelligent than him and I think he is a sitting duck

Well, being more intelligent than Harry is a pretty low bar, in fairness!

I'm not being dismissive at all. They were/are both strong, confident women. I'm acknowledging that the cultural and social differences are significant, no matter how bright and capable you are. Both royal houses have arcane practises that neither woman would be familiar with. To claim that neither Grace nor Meghan had any agency is ridiculous!
What was that about adjusting to marriage even after 3 years?

People dehumanise and other people they do not like and use this to justify uncharitable behaviour. This is why I state that she is a very human woman with human motivations and feelings - to remind you that she is not a caricature or an avatar but that she is very much a person. You can criticise people without being perjorative

do you see the irony there?

that you are criticising me, dehumanising me and being pejorative too?

who on this thread has ever suggested she is a caricature or an avatar? Nobody.

we are all aware she is a human being - because we are human beings too and are all equally worthy of decent treatment.