Meghan Markle Archetype podcasts & interviews

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As the last thread filled up & there's plenty of discussion of Meghan's interview in The Cut, seems worthwhile starting a new thread!

A read yesterday that a series of media interviews are planned to promote the podcasts. Should be very interesting if The Cut interview is anything to go by!

Sorry @mateysmum just realised that this thread is trending and will have other posters too. We broke this down in the royal thread from a long time ago. Some of the posters on there name change, so I never take note of who is who really (as I also don't take these threads personally), so some names sound familiar. Apologies if you don't go there and just have a familiar sounding name.

• The problem seems to be with her using the word 'marriage'. She does not however, state that or pretend that they had witnesses - which is a requirement for marriage. The bishop said the marriage we saw real, which they did not dispute either, but he would not say anything about the confidential meetings they have. Still baffled why this is still a big deal tbh, as to me it's like someone saying how they got married by the beach on an island, when they actually have to come back and sign at the registry office.
• Meghan clearly states the patents, she said that the intention was to change them specifically for Archie.
• I already linked that a journalist overhead what the rota say about her, so it does not have to be in print, but we can already see the dogwhistle going on.
• II also did a whole post on how the press are obsessed with them and can harass them while sticking to the rules.

Can you expand, please? Sounds intriguing.

H&M's value in the US and globally would have been much more lucrative if they got along and had a relationship with the RF here in the UK. They could have tootled back and forth and cashed in on their connection over there as a Duke and Duchess, spreading a bit of their royal dazzle over there. I'm sure the Americans would have liked that.

However, their constant whinging is doing them no good. They have a bit of life in the old dog yet, but it is getting really boring. Pretty soon they will have nowhere to go as the US will be sick of them and they are not welcome here.

@notanotheroneagain - the Letters Patent were not changed for Archie. The last modification was in 2015 to ensure that a Cambridge girl did not have a lesser title than her brothers.
All the Letters Patent with respect to titles were in place before Meghan even came on the scene. Archie's title is nothing to do with the ethnicity of his mother.

She's using coercive control on Harry and he will come a cropper and eventually need the support of his blood family, She clearly has no concept of the word Princess, she never was one and never would have been, just like Camilla and Kate. The P of Wales is the for the wife of the heir to the throne. All Markle would have had would have been Princess Henry of Wales and wouldn't her feminist credentials have loved that one.

Archie's title is nothing to do with the ethnicity of his mother.

In her mind everything has to do with her ethnicity, 50%, from her mother, that gives her the victim card every time.

www.independent.co.uk/life-style/royal-family/meghan-markle-archie-nursery-fire-b2155296.html?amp

Not sure if this has already been posted . Archie was not in the room at the time and the fire was
confined to the heater if there was actually a fire.

Of course it’s understandable that M would be rattled, but her claim that she was expected to do another engagement afterwards and that ‘didn’t make sense’ is ridiculous. Does she think other Royals just decide not to bother carrying on when something upsetting happens? Just no thought for anyone else at all. Only herself.

It's telling their truth Not necessarily THE truth.
Geesh, we are in a forum where publicly complaining about spouses, children, siblings, parents, friends etc is a norm. But apparently they have to take whatever shit the tabloids dish for the good of England.
MN is anonymous and people can write what they like. It might be a load of rubbish.
For the good of England ! I'm Scottish. I couldn't care less about the good of England

notanotheroneagain We can all read dogwhistles from play of words, Compton, mutt, comparing her to a pig (her oar in), play on words (niggling a play on the n word).

Honestly, this is really offensive and verging on racism itself. You have already had to have it explained to you that "niggling" and its derivatives are long standing words in English, because English is part derived from Old Norse. The original word is hnøggr, in which the initial "n" isn't pronounced and the ø is between an o and an i. Its spawned many derivatives across Norway Sweden, Scotland, northern England, etc all of which are based on its original meaning of stingy.

Not everyone in Britain is English or from London. The UK is a long island from north to south and many people speak dialects that are still rooted heavily in Old Norse, and "niggling" is a word which is commonplace amongst much of western Europe.

Considering that in the UK and the EU, you can discriminate on grounds of nationality, it is your remarks which are potentially racist, not the use of a word which has been in the English language for centuries.

Its really easy to google, which might be more appropriate than accusing people of being racist when using their own language in a perfectly normal way.

An archetype is something that is considered to be a perfect or typical example of a particular kind of person or thing, because it has all their most important characteristics.

A stereotype is a fixed general image or set of characteristics that a lot of people believe represent a particular type of person or thing.

How did her podcast title ever get approved?!

I hope we never see the day they split and H is treated exactly the same way with accusations and constant scrutiny. It is a toxic way to live.

An interesting observation, shock, and something that I have noticed as well. At first, I thought that she was simply using language in very specific ways to construct a particular version (e.g., using 'archetypes' to imply that she and H are the prototypes for their brand of podcasting) but now I wonder if there is more to it? There seems to be some regularity to the 'mislabelling' of objects, events and incidents.

Pigs and ‘oar in’ bear no relation to each other either.

She said they wanted to change it. That was the conversation. Not done yet, want to do it. Hopefully, they won't go ahead now it's all out in the open.

• The problem seems to be with her using the word 'marriage'. She does not however, state that or pretend that they had witnesses - which is a requirement for marriage. The bishop said the marriage we saw real, which they did not dispute either, but he would not say anything about the confidential meetings they have.

Sorry but this is completely incoherent and makes no sense at all.

The Archbishop of Canterbury had to come out and refute what she had said because of he had done what she had claimed, it would have been illegal.

To imply that the wedding which had huge amounts of fanfare and taxpayers money spent on it was meaningless to them was incredibly insulting to the British public.

You admit yourself that The problem seems to be with her using the word 'marriage'. I suppose you could argue that changing the meaning of words is a way of saying untrue things without actually lying 🤯🤯

Yes, absolutely this. Very noticeable, isn’t it?

Very happy to preach and be holier than thou to us plebs. No actual action on their own part to practice any of what they preach, though. In fact they do the opposite.

They’re vindictive, bitter, vengeful and destructive to their own families instead of seeking reconciliation, forgiveness or building of bridges. There’s no discretion or confidentiality. They’re out to elevate themselves at the expense of their families.

And as for their mental health shtick, well... Harry’s about the worst advert for psychotherapy there is. His therapist must be in despair. He’s taken half a job and started preaching to the world like he’s an expert, when he still hasn’t completed meaningful change or even learned basic skills like how to regulate his own emotions.

She said she wouldn’t give the British press pics of her child because the press has used the N word towards her child. Really? I cannot see that media would be allowed to publish an article if it did refer to anyone by that word.

Harry always looks so haunted whenever he’s photographed

suppose you could argue that changing the meaning of words is a way of saying untrue things without actually lying 🤯🤯

Or just being a romantic ?
As I say, if my friends gush about their lovely marriage, when they later have to go sign in the registry office, I don't particularly call them liars.

Yes, again no thought for others. Never mind dropping the Archbishop of Canterbury in it. She was inferring he was performing a false marriage ceremony in front of millions of people, having married them in a garden several days before.

I've never heard any one say this. Marriage has a clearly defined legal meaning. It is a legal concept.

But apparently they have to take whatever shit the tabloids dish for the good of England

why do you constantly make references to England?

what’s wrong with “the country” or “the U.K.”?

as for shit in the tabloids - what about the shit Omid Scobie comes out with? He’s happy to sell that, isn’t he?

Who cares ?

She said it.

Didn't you hear at the time?

She said the rehearsal the day before was the 'real thing'.

Her casually thrown-in accusation that the British press called Archie the N word is a worry. Did they?

If they did I've never seen it - and I haven't the least doubt it would have been plastered all over social media - but "calling Archie the N word" isn't quite the same as saying they printed it
For all we know she could claim (and those who insist things are "proved" when they're no such thing probably will) that the word was used among themselves and Meghan got to hear about it

As so often this is unknowable, but with something as serious as racism I'm not about to automatically take the word of someone who's been shown to have a loose grasp of the truth

The problem seems to be with her using the word 'marriage'

a lot of people have a lot of problems with the words Meghan uses. In sentences. Mainly because “her truth” is in contradiction to the facts.