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Meghan Markle Archetype podcasts & interviews

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susan12345678 · 30/08/2022 07:17

As the last thread filled up & there's plenty of discussion of Meghan's interview in The Cut, seems worthwhile starting a new thread!

A read yesterday that a series of media interviews are planned to promote the podcasts. Should be very interesting if The Cut interview is anything to go by!

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Serenster · 30/08/2022 10:20

I’m sorry I’m generally quite on the ball but what do you mean by understand that he is black and plain?

Russell Myers, a Royal Rota journalist, was having a twitter discussion with Richard Eden, another journalist following the announcement of Archie’s name.

Richard Eden asked “Is he Archibald, in the same way that Harry is actually named Henry?

Russell Myers responded “Plain old Archie. he can be a black cab driver”.

Fantastists have twisted this to insinuate that Russell was calling Archie plain, and black (racist!). Clearly, it is utter nonsense, but when does the truth ever stop them?

OppsUpsSide · 30/08/2022 10:24

That’s a convoluted take!
Fortunately the journalist will have recordings if need be

Not really,

“Harry said to me, ‘I lost my dad in this process.’ It doesn’t have to be the same for them as it was for me, but that’s his decision.”

The quotation marks suggest he is talking about himself as they incorporate the ‘I’.
However, the whole sentence doesn’t suggest she is giving a direct quotation of what he said, and doesn’t make sense as a sentence if she was. So if you take the quotation marks out

“Harry said to me I lost my dad in this process. It doesn’t have to be the same for them as it was for me, but that’s his decision.”

The meaning is different but a perfectly reasonable way to speak colloquially. Sometimes journalists add a word in in brackets like “Harry said to me (that) I lost my dad in this process. It doesn’t have to be the same for them as it was for me.”

I don’t think it is a stretch at all, they have come back and said she was talking about herself and her dad, not Harry and his, and I think within the context of the complete sentence that is more than plausible.

FrippEnos · 30/08/2022 10:24

notanotheroneagain

(niggling a play on the n word)

I suppose you could spin it that way but niggling means
causing slight but persistent annoyance, discomfort, or anxiety.

its not a play on the "n" word at all.

its etymology is of Scandinavian origin

LittleBearPad · 30/08/2022 10:25

Serenster · 30/08/2022 10:20

I’m sorry I’m generally quite on the ball but what do you mean by understand that he is black and plain?

Russell Myers, a Royal Rota journalist, was having a twitter discussion with Richard Eden, another journalist following the announcement of Archie’s name.

Richard Eden asked “Is he Archibald, in the same way that Harry is actually named Henry?

Russell Myers responded “Plain old Archie. he can be a black cab driver”.

Fantastists have twisted this to insinuate that Russell was calling Archie plain, and black (racist!). Clearly, it is utter nonsense, but when does the truth ever stop them?

Thank you for explaining! I genuinely couldn’t understand the angst as he’s rather cute and definitely not plain

Serenster · 30/08/2022 10:26

Also, in case its of interest - Clause 6 of the UK’s Independent Press Standard Organisation’s Code of Practice

Clause 6 (Children)*
i) All pupils should be free to complete their time at school without unnecessary intrusion. ii) They must not be approached or photographed at school without permission of the school authorities.

So it’s again utter nonsense to suggest there would be 40 photographers snapping the Sussexes doing the school run.

Kate and William do the school run a lot, and there are never press photos of it. They have had on organised press call for the very first day of school for each child (Louis’ will presumably be next week) and that is it.

SpinCityBlues · 30/08/2022 10:27

I'm interested in that this impacts on the esteem, or otherwise, in which our Head of State and her successors are held. I think Meghan Sussex is quite prepared to be remembered as the person who 'brought down the monarchy'. With that project, good luck to her. She can only cause damage by pushing because the institution is built on sand.

After Andrew and the way the Queen and the ghastly Yorks have protected him, I now am firmly in the camp that would be pleased to see the end of a hereditary monarchy with Head of State powers and significant land ownership and incomes derived. No thanks. That contract with the 'loyal subjects' has been trashed by their bloody awful behaviour.

But ... I dont think Meghan really knows what she's doing. She's being guided by idiots and her own ego. And frankly, I think both M and H need some serious help, and I don't mean with the dishes.

LittleBearPad · 30/08/2022 10:28

OppsUpsSide · 30/08/2022 10:24

That’s a convoluted take!
Fortunately the journalist will have recordings if need be

Not really,

“Harry said to me, ‘I lost my dad in this process.’ It doesn’t have to be the same for them as it was for me, but that’s his decision.”

The quotation marks suggest he is talking about himself as they incorporate the ‘I’.
However, the whole sentence doesn’t suggest she is giving a direct quotation of what he said, and doesn’t make sense as a sentence if she was. So if you take the quotation marks out

“Harry said to me I lost my dad in this process. It doesn’t have to be the same for them as it was for me, but that’s his decision.”

The meaning is different but a perfectly reasonable way to speak colloquially. Sometimes journalists add a word in in brackets like “Harry said to me (that) I lost my dad in this process. It doesn’t have to be the same for them as it was for me.”

I don’t think it is a stretch at all, they have come back and said she was talking about herself and her dad, not Harry and his, and I think within the context of the complete sentence that is more than plausible.

Or perhaps the journalist who listened to the phrasing and stress when it was said got it completely right as either are possible particularly as Meghan seemed to rather throw her father away rather than lose him.

Serenster · 30/08/2022 10:29

I don’t think it is a stretch at all, they have come back and said she was talking about herself and her dad, not Harry and his, and I think within the context of the complete sentence that is more than plausible.

If she was misquoted in the article, she would have approached the Cut and the writer and asked for a correction. Strangely, however the correction didn’t come from The Cut, but Omid Scobie.

Did she ask the Cut and they said they would not correct it, because they had checked the tapes and stood by their version?

ShirleyJackson · 30/08/2022 10:29

My main takeaway from the interview is how very odd it is to accept the gift of a home and a massive grand piano from someone you’ve never met in person.

NorthernMountainCaribou · 30/08/2022 10:29

I believe The Cut has already responded on the 'Harry said to me, I lost my dad in this process' quote. They said they directly quoted what Meghan had said and they have a general policy of not explaining/clarifying direct quotes.

So we have to assume she said that - or surely there would be a correction.

She either accidentally expresses herself in a manner which causes confusion, or she is deliberately causing confusion (to create speculation) or the plain meaning of those words is true. Which is it?

Very similar to the 'we actually got married three days earlier' quote.

factfile · 30/08/2022 10:31

"I don't want to be part of the monarchy" - consistently uses title Duchess in own self-promotion in order to gain notoriety with no apparent self-awareness of hypocrisy

"I want to protect my son from exposure in the media" - uses son's name as title of charity, podcast, etc...

NorthernMountainCaribou · 30/08/2022 10:31

Actually in the interview it is stated 'Harry said to me, "I lost my Dad in this process" - as though she was directly quoting Harry.

The Cut is not retracting that.

Starsinyoureyes13 · 30/08/2022 10:32

She's just not a nice person at all, the limelight has to be about her and nobody else. Why does she not talk about her own family and leave her husbands alone? If her husband has something to say im sure he would say it, the world doesn't need to know about petty squabbles, there is enough going on in the world right now, the flood disaster in pakistan for one. She seems selfish moaning when people are suffering.

OhMerde · 30/08/2022 10:37

notanotheroneagain · 30/08/2022 09:19

Black cab - Dog whistle, not only treat a royal baby like this, but go for this example.
And the other reporter referring to a baby as 'it'. Associating a baby as will be spoiled - he could not even speak at the time.
Disgusting !

I will post them, you all claim ignorance now and say it was just 3 articles. MM will protect her children who are treated like this.

I dont understand any of the points you're trying to make. The way you write is really confusing.

TroysMammy · 30/08/2022 10:40

If her child had been called the n word in the British press, subsequent stories would have been headline news and they would have sued the publication.

heartchakra · 30/08/2022 10:42

starrynight21 · 30/08/2022 07:54

Her interview with Serena Williams reminded me of that old joke , “But that's enough about me. Let’s talk about you. What do you think about me?”

😂 love this

Maireas · 30/08/2022 10:43

NorthernMountainCaribou · 30/08/2022 09:38

I wonder if the school gate comments were because she knows that inevitably next week there will be photos of the Cambridge children attending their first day at their new school in Windsor.

In reality this is the annual photo op for the press on the grounds that the rest of the year they are left alone. And it links in with the rest of the nation posting pictures of their own children's first days back at school on social media.

For the Sussex camp though - this is evidence that they were right.

Yes, I think that's what it is - she thinks it's pap harrassment when it's managed images controlled by the parents.

Alondra · 30/08/2022 10:44

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StartupRepair · 30/08/2022 10:44

I feel frustrated with them that they are healthy, have two lovely DC, a beautiful house, lots of money and yet their 'schtick' is how badly done by they have been. Seeing her in South Africa saying no-one ever asks me if I'm ok was just a fore runner of the self indulgence to come.

FoggyCrumpet · 30/08/2022 10:45

Exactly @Starsinyoureyes13
People who constantly moan and claim victim status are very tedious imo. Unfortunately because of her Royal title she keeps being offered the opportunity to have another round of complaining. When will she realise most people are rolling their eyes and laughing about her?

Poor Harry, she must be a nightmare to live with.

Oh and the entwined palm tree thing was vomit inducing.

notanotheroneagain · 30/08/2022 10:47

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This .

And the ones moaning are the press and those like in this thread .

Ohnonevermind · 30/08/2022 10:48

www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/08/26/meghan-markle-podcast-trauma-limits/

This is an interesting article. While hugely sympathetic to the Sussex’s escaping the ‘fading empire’ it talks about them being caught in a ‘trauma plot’ always seems looking backwards with no clear path forward. The longer they do the trauma plot, the more they risk getting trapped in it as it’s all people want to hear about from them

it also says they have to stop making themselves the centre of the story if they want to help others

Personally I think that Meghan wants to be the centre of the story, but we’ll have to wait and see with the later podcasts

CPL593H · 30/08/2022 10:49

Sounds like podcast 2 with ? Mariah Carey is on today.

Wonnle · 30/08/2022 10:51

The woman is as mad as two boxes of frogs !

Alternative reality is where she lives

MrsLargeEmbodied · 30/08/2022 10:52

where is the article?
i saw some pictures on instagram
bit strange pics of MM, draped over a chair

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