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susan12345678 · 2022-08-30T06:17:52+00:00

As the last thread filled up & there's plenty of discussion of Meghan's interview in The Cut, seems worthwhile starting a new thread! A read yesterday that a series of media interviews are planned to promote the podcasts. Should be very interesting if The Cut interview is anything to go by!

StormzyinaTCup · 31/08/2022 10:14

Novella4 · 31/08/2022 10:06

@DFOD

• Grandiose, deluded, arrogant and entitled. Have to be in the spotlight and adored. Obsessed with own perfect image and need others to fawn and validate.

The royal family in other words

Not sure about the whole family but I think it would be fair to say that description certainly applies PA, he has strong narcissistic traits too IMO.

Roussette · 31/08/2022 10:16

DFOD · 31/08/2022 09:18

…you have been uncharacteristically calm on this thread @Roussette is it because your own bullying tone has had your posts repeatedly deleted recently? Turned over a new leaf and learning to discuss and debate reasonably - keep it up - it suits you and you will be heard and have more impact.

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@DFOD

OK, I have checked the whole of this thread and other threads I am on. Particularly royal ones.
I have found one post deleted on the previous thread about her podcast, nothing deleted on this thread, no idea what the one deleted post was, it was 5 days ago and no one referred to it after the deletion so it can't have been that bad.. So perhaps you would like to stop making stuff up about me having 'posts repeatedly deleted'.
Untrue quite obviously. Nice try to bully by you though and stop the patronising telling me how to post.

Readinginthesun · 31/08/2022 10:19

Novella4 · 31/08/2022 09:53

@DFOD
'bend yourself out of shape to cover for a random you don’t know and have never met.'

Tell that to the disgraceful Andrew apologists on here

No one has tried to excuse Andrew . Done posters are clarifying legal definitions which is very different from excusing his behaviour.

ancientgran · 31/08/2022 10:20

MarshaMelrose · 30/08/2022 22:32

I think Harry is genuinely in love with her. I think things she does like keep touching him to take his attention away from other people annoys him. But he loves her. And I really hope they stay like that for them and for their children. Because I can't see how he can ever leave her. Where would he go? Would he really slink back to the UK?
I remember reading that Wallis Simpson wanted to leave the Duke of Windsor but after all they'd been through, she felt she couldn't. That the publicity over it would be unbearable for them both. So she stayed with him, even though she wasn't happy and ended up having affairs.

I always thought she was a sad figure. She really was trapped.

Wheresthebeach · 31/08/2022 10:21

MM is disturbing to watch. Mimicking Diana is particularly worrying...it's part of how she reals Harry in I think.

The threats, the diary, the constant drip of stories is all so manipulative. The hanging onto the titles and demanding special treatment for being Royal while trying to destroy the RF is awful. I'm sure they will attack full on once the Queen dies, they need to be completely cut off so they don't have more ammunition. I don't know if Charles is still funding them, but they need to not get a penny from him. I understand he must be deeply hurt and saddened, but at some point there needs to be an end to hoping they will stop - because they won't.

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 10:22

What did you say, @Roussette?! (If you can remember.) I think people should be able to have and withstand a robust discussion about royalty without needing the fainting couch.

The only posts I would report are Andrew-related ones that victim blame, and I believe that you loathe him as much as I do.

Readinginthesun · 31/08/2022 10:23

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 10:12

I agree, @DFOD. When H&M first fucked off to North America, I thought 'good on them' for getting out of the toxic orbit of the RF, especially that nonce and the nonce-enablers.

I also thought until about 6 months ago that M was getting a very unfair press, based on tropes and biases. But I've taken a deep breath and had a look at her 'output' of late and her very specific personality as presented by herself to us, the public, and yeah, there's a personality disorder in there at play that's actually - to use her own very revealing words - 'thriving' on the real and perceived mistreatment(s).

Their silence on Uncle Andrew, Epstein and Maxwell, and their contuniung friendship with Princess Eugenie York who is still there batting away for Daddy, is inexplicable on the one hand - but entirely explicable if seen through the new lens of her traits of 'grandiosity' and 'untouchability' and H's trait of being compulsively attached to it all.

That is a very good point about H and M not criticising Andrew . I wonder why not ?
M has been very keen to get digs in about Catherine and H complained about his Dad so why not the despicable Andrew ?
Thoughts @notanotheroneagain ?

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susan12345678 · 31/08/2022 10:29

That is a very good point about H and M not criticising Andrew . I wonder why not ?

The enemy of mine enemy is my friend, perhaps?

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SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 10:31

Readinginthesun · 31/08/2022 10:23

That is a very good point about H and M not criticising Andrew . I wonder why not ?
M has been very keen to get digs in about Catherine and H complained about his Dad so why not the despicable Andrew ?
Thoughts @notanotheroneagain ?

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I presume Eugenie, or Harry's friendship with Eugenie, is useful to her/them in some way. Useful enough for them to stay silent on the execrable Andrew.

Why maintain a tie to the Yorks? I mean, the Yorks ffs.

Don't tell me H actually believes all that guff from the Maitlis interview? Because I'm pretty sure that M sure as hell doesn't.

CallmeAngelina · 31/08/2022 10:32

I have, in the past, frequented the H&M threads and have seen many of @Roussette 's posts. She and I are on opposite sides of the debate in the main, but I can absolutely say that she always posts calmly and sensibly on these threads. She doesn't mud-sling or insult; just puts the Sussex side of the argument.

Wheresthebeach · 31/08/2022 10:34

I'd not thought about the silence over Andrew before. I mean there has to be lots of gossip about that to spill but they are quiet as Church Mice, not a squeak.

Their attacks are aimed at those 'in their way' I think, and those who stood in their way.

The more Harry pops up, juggling, commenting on hair, peering through windows the sadder he looks. He really has been side lined by MM who's getting endless attention. He's a prop, and she won't ditch him as her Royal title is too important to her brand.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/08/2022 10:35

I have read the Angela Kelly book. It was written at the Queen's approval. There is literally no gossip in it about any Royals or household members

So have I and this is correct, but hang on to the thing about Angela Kelly being driven to drink by the Queen's demands - like "William in blackface" I've little doubt it'll be raised again

And speaking of so far unproved allegations, I notice nobody's yet identified where and when it was that the media "called Archie the N word" ...

Roussette · 31/08/2022 10:35

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 10:22

What did you say, @Roussette?! (If you can remember.) I think people should be able to have and withstand a robust discussion about royalty without needing the fainting couch.

The only posts I would report are Andrew-related ones that victim blame, and I believe that you loathe him as much as I do.

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LondonWolf · 31/08/2022 10:38

CallmeAngelina · 31/08/2022 10:32

I have, in the past, frequented the H&M threads and have seen many of @Roussette 's posts. She and I are on opposite sides of the debate in the main, but I can absolutely say that she always posts calmly and sensibly on these threads. She doesn't mud-sling or insult; just puts the Sussex side of the argument.

Maybe it's the accusations of name changing ie "trolling" for nefarious/racist purposes. Carefully couched and generally just below the radar of MN rules it's true, but still, not really in the spirit as MNHQ might say. Maybe a mistaken overstep?

StartupRepair · 31/08/2022 10:39

Meghan made a point of name checking Andrew and Fergie in the first few minutes of the Oprah interview. She didn't have to mention them but chose to.
I have a cousin who shares many traits with Meghan. Everything is overdramatised, exaggerated and distorted. All in a very engaging but slippery way. And if you challenge anything there is a complete outburst of tears and betrayal. Meghan's style is so familiar to me.

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 10:39

Roussette · 31/08/2022 10:35

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That's what I mean. I don't understand why you even had one deleted. Like @CallmeAngelina said ^^, you put an argument forward. People respond. You respond. It's a discussion.

You've actually made me think a lot over the last few years about a number of things from a different perspective, including M's.

Novella4 · 31/08/2022 10:40

@Readinginthesun
Ignoring trafficking and the close friendship with Epstein is minimising . I've see lots of it on this thread and it is a disgrace

Roussette · 31/08/2022 10:40

Roussette · 31/08/2022 10:35

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Oops, One deleted post 5 days ago that I have no idea about, and to which no one mentioned following the deletion, so no idea!

Yes on Andrew!

@CallmeAngelina I appreciate your post, we may have differing opinions but I like to think we can discuss. 🙂
I just object to someone lying about me on here saying I have repeated deleted posts.

CallmeAngelina · 31/08/2022 10:40

I remember when it was first suggested that Meghan had been making notes keeping a diary and lots of people threw their hands up in horror and said it was supposition/made up/call it what you will.

And here we are! Confirmed straight from the horse's mouth. And I'm another one who doesn't believe for one moment that she "happened" to discover such an important document lying forgotten in a drawer this June.

LondonWolf · 31/08/2022 10:43

And speaking of so far unproved allegations, I notice nobody's yet identified where and when it was that the media "called Archie the N word" ...

I read that it was apparently a comment in DM comments section... so nothing to do with the royal rota.

I'm not convinced tbh because even on the DM comments which are not "moderated" there are still words which cannot get through the basic protections on certain stories - "racism" being one of them. I find it very hard to believe that such a disgusting and potentially damaging (for the DM) word would not be blocked.

Everydayyall · 31/08/2022 10:43

I think she's detached from reality, though l do believe the racism. If she sues for her letter being in the paper and is upset at relatives talking to the press, then she also should not talk to press? You either want privacy or not.
They could have moved to LA saying they want to be close to her mother and got on with their family life. Maybe leak out the racism. They want careers as global icons, that has to be earned over a lifetime, not by birth or marriage. I think bot M and H are delusional.

Serenster · 31/08/2022 10:43

I saw this photo on twitter recently and it reminded me how ridiculous Meghan’s constant claims that she was silenced in the Royal family was. Here she is, handed the microphone and given centre stage on numerous occasions in her brief time as a working Royal. It’s not comprehensive either - there was also the “Fab Four on stage together before the wedding where Meghan spoke at length about women feeling empowered to use their voices, and there was another speech she gave in New Zealand that’s not pictured.

She also guest-edited Vogue (behind the Royal’s back, so there was no censorship), writing editorials and interviews, she had her friends giving her views to the Press (most famously the six who spoke to People), she gave copious notes to her staff to be passed to Omid Scobie for Finding Freedom. She had the Sussex Royal instagram account which she clearly was heavily involved in. She was more visible, with more access to a microphone, and a bigger platform, than at any previous stage in her life.

Listening to what she has been saying since she left, I suspect what she means by her constant complaints now was that the team around her weren’t prepared to lie to the press (and deny the many stories that we now know were based on truth) and the public as she wished, and that was intolerable. The Cut article even says that straight up, quoting her as saying :“When the media has shaped the story around you, it’s really nice to be able to tell your own story.” And a story is definitely what she’s telling.

Meghan Markle Archetype podcasts & interviews

Roussette · 31/08/2022 10:43

@SpinCityBlues
Thanks, yes.
I've had about three deleted posts in all the time Ive been on MN which started when dinosaurs roamed the earth lol

shedwithivy · 31/08/2022 10:45

If they spend all day reading the DM comments section then no wonder they feel victimised. It is an absolute sewer

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 10:47

StartupRepair · 31/08/2022 10:39

Meghan made a point of name checking Andrew and Fergie in the first few minutes of the Oprah interview. She didn't have to mention them but chose to.
I have a cousin who shares many traits with Meghan. Everything is overdramatised, exaggerated and distorted. All in a very engaging but slippery way. And if you challenge anything there is a complete outburst of tears and betrayal. Meghan's style is so familiar to me.

Thank you for the reminder. Here's that part of the transcript:

Meghan: She was one of the first people I met. The real Queen.
Oprah: What was that like? Were you worried about making the right impression?
Meghan: There wasn’t a huge formality the first time I met Her Majesty The Queen. We were going for lunch at Royal Lodge, which is where some other members of the family live, specifically Andrew and Fergie, and Eugenie and Beatrice would spend a lot of time there. Eugenie and I had known each other before I knew Harry, so that was comfortable and it turned out the Queen was finishing a church service in Windsor and so she was going to be at the house.

[The curtsey story follows.]

Eugenie York keeps popping up as a common link between everyone.