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Meghan Markle Archetype podcasts & interviews

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susan12345678 · 30/08/2022 07:17

As the last thread filled up & there's plenty of discussion of Meghan's interview in The Cut, seems worthwhile starting a new thread!

A read yesterday that a series of media interviews are planned to promote the podcasts. Should be very interesting if The Cut interview is anything to go by!

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MrsLeBouef · 31/08/2022 09:23

and yet she wants to be known as the Duchess of Sussex - you would think she would want to distance herself but no. She just loves that title.

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 09:26

MrsLeBouef · 31/08/2022 09:23

and yet she wants to be known as the Duchess of Sussex - you would think she would want to distance herself but no. She just loves that title.

Yes, it fits in with the grandiosity. She sees herself as specially deserving.

MrsLeBouef · 31/08/2022 09:26

She is like the most insidious of bullies - the ones who prod from the background but are not upfront and say what they mean. They hint, they suggest and to quote the article they "side eye" because they are then not really involved. They are not a nasty bully are they?

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 09:28

I think she certainly has a personality disorder, as a response to her childhood.

MissTrip82 · 31/08/2022 09:30

Well I listened to the Mariah Carey episode and was pleasantly surprised. She was much more interesting than I expected. And she spoke a lot more than serena Williams did. I enjoyed it. It made me want to know more about Mariah Carey!

I still think Meghan is talking about herself too much but that’s a common trait amongst podcasters. I often go to listen to a podcast by a comedian I admire and find they’re just wittering on about themselves and give up.

DFOD · 31/08/2022 09:33

notanotheroneagain · 31/08/2022 08:28

Not true, she did not compare herself to Mandela.

A South African was explaining to her that it was one of those different moments. South Africans don't do many once off street parties. They may have them for New Years Eve every year, sport wins (especially 'soccer'). He did not have the reference point of jubilees and other royals weddings that people feel special about over here. He was referencing the one time people were happy for a once off separate event they were happy for a poc

@notanotheroneagain please save your dignity. It’s toe-curling for you to try to dig her out of this one. Why not just post the transcript rather than bend yourself out of shape to cover for a random you don’t know and have never met.

EachandEveryone · 31/08/2022 09:38

I wonder if Oprah has any regrets.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 31/08/2022 09:39

I know it may sound odd to say this, but I am really glad to see this thread. It's not that I like unpleasantness, but to see that people really are seeing through Meghan Markle and not defending her and screaming Racist! every time someone criticises her for perfectly valid reasons. It has nothing to do with the colour of her skin and everything to do with her attitude. The one thing I do believe is when she said on the Oprah debacle that she had mental health problems. She's proved that. Where it will all end, I do not know.

notanotheroneagain · 31/08/2022 09:41

These things manifest.

I don't think Oprah, the books etc. were on the cards initially. But the rf shot themselves on the foot. You had them run away overseas and they still let the press hound them and scapegoat them. They go overseas ? Forgt they exist. Don't tip the press where they are and let them run disparaging lies.

There is a significant moment on the Dex Shepard podcast where H seems to proverbially shrug and put his hands up like : I run away, you still chase me, at some point I will push back.

You make all sorts of accusation about someone, maybe they decide, ok you are so adamant about it, let me show you what it actually means to be that person you crave so much. So far, I think H&M have been rather soft tbh

twitter.com/SussexRoyalGlow/status/1561478637429440515

notanotheroneagain · 31/08/2022 09:45

MM took the piss out of herself just recently on the Ellen Show.

Novella4 · 31/08/2022 09:53

@DFOD
'bend yourself out of shape to cover for a random you don’t know and have never met.'

Tell that to the disgraceful Andrew apologists on here

Roussette · 31/08/2022 09:53

DFOD · 31/08/2022 09:18

…you have been uncharacteristically calm on this thread @Roussette is it because your own bullying tone has had your posts repeatedly deleted recently? Turned over a new leaf and learning to discuss and debate reasonably - keep it up - it suits you and you will be heard and have more impact.

What? Posts deleted? I'm on a .one so can't check, but will when on a laptop. I didn't know I had even one post deleted.

I would be interested in hearing and seeing where I bullied ANYONE. Quite the opposite, I'm keeping off of this thread denigrating H&M as certain posters like a pile on when I post and life's too short for such nastiness

susan12345678 · 31/08/2022 09:53

Both Meghan and Harry are hampered by their personality defects & refusal to accept constructive advice. The only things they could now do to restore their dignity and reputations would be:

A) to lead completely private, low-key lives,
or
B) to renounce their royal titles (& then either lead quiet lives or continue with the PR blitz)

the current approach amounts to an attempt to craft out the officially rejected half-in, half-out model by stealth. It makes them look grasping, shallow and ridiculous. And until they accept this & opt for either A or B, their public image will never improve.

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DorritLittle · 31/08/2022 09:56

Harry didn't exactly run off to a media-free zone, shrouded in anonymity, though, did he? Did he really expect no media interest when they went out of their way to create a public narrative?

LittleBearPad · 31/08/2022 09:58

Just saw this on Twitter and it made me smile - Mandela, Gorbachev and Meghan…

Meghan Markle Archetype podcasts & interviews
DFOD · 31/08/2022 10:01

Ohnonevermind · 31/08/2022 09:02

Meghan is too brittle to laugh at herself (again like Trump).

The anecdote about dancing in the streets is something Trump would say too. The Obamas and frankly anyone else would never repeat this anecdote seriously. What would the posters on here he saying if Trump said it.

There is a type of personality that social media and modern society has brought to the fore. Trump and Meghan share similar traits, they don’t care about anyone else but themselves but so many people lap it up and detach the persons words from their actions They both think all publicity is good publicity, and they very thin skinned and will unleash revenge on anyone they feel wronged them.

Two sides to these types of characters:

  1. Grandiose, deluded, arrogant and entitled. Have to be in the spotlight and adored. Obsessed with own perfect image and need others to fawn and validate.
  1. Fragile ego, highly sensitive and reactive to perceived slights, have to have a target of blame for revenge - can’t move on, emotionally deficient and immature. Can’t tolerate stress well so need total control, passive aggressive, resentful which can flip into episodes of anger and rage. Vexatious and vindictive.
SueSaid · 31/08/2022 10:03

DorritLittle · 31/08/2022 09:56

Harry didn't exactly run off to a media-free zone, shrouded in anonymity, though, did he? Did he really expect no media interest when they went out of their way to create a public narrative?

The answer trotted out will be 'he didn't want privacy he wanted control', missing the point that the rf have no control on what he blabs on about so he is effect doing to them what the media have done to him, but that whooshes over Harry's supporters heads.

Readinginthesun · 31/08/2022 10:03

notanotheroneagain · 31/08/2022 08:39

She was touched by what he said, whatever she says only certain people will make a big deal and twist it.

It would be interesting to know if anyone can remember the comment ( other than Meghan!)

Novella4 · 31/08/2022 10:06

@DFOD

• Grandiose, deluded, arrogant and entitled. Have to be in the spotlight and adored. Obsessed with own perfect image and need others to fawn and validate.

The royal family in other words

Readinginthesun · 31/08/2022 10:09

notanotheroneagain · 31/08/2022 08:44

Hold on, didn't Angela Kelly recently release a book?

I never read it, but screenshots were shared on SM. She spilled all sorts about the queen ( I believe at some point complaining that HMQ was so demanding it drove her down the bottle). Press didn't make a big deal about her 'talking about inside info'.

Anyway, don't think she mentioned the so called tiara story.

Angela Kelly is one of HM’s most trusted advisers. HM gave her permission to write her book which I have read and at NO point AK say anything g derogatory about HM . You really need to watch what you are saying .

susan12345678 · 31/08/2022 10:10

Grandiose, deluded, arrogant and entitled. Have to be in the spotlight and adored

the only royals who display these qualities IMO are Harry, Andrew and to a lesser extent, Charles

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susan12345678 · 31/08/2022 10:11

Oh and Meghan, obviously

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DFOD · 31/08/2022 10:12

Novella4 · 31/08/2022 09:53

@DFOD
'bend yourself out of shape to cover for a random you don’t know and have never met.'

Tell that to the disgraceful Andrew apologists on here

Who is apologising for Andrew?

Please name and shame them and then report their posts for deletion.

SpinCityBlues · 31/08/2022 10:12

I agree, @DFOD. When H&M first fucked off to North America, I thought 'good on them' for getting out of the toxic orbit of the RF, especially that nonce and the nonce-enablers.

I also thought until about 6 months ago that M was getting a very unfair press, based on tropes and biases. But I've taken a deep breath and had a look at her 'output' of late and her very specific personality as presented by herself to us, the public, and yeah, there's a personality disorder in there at play that's actually - to use her own very revealing words - 'thriving' on the real and perceived mistreatment(s).

Their silence on Uncle Andrew, Epstein and Maxwell, and their contuniung friendship with Princess Eugenie York who is still there batting away for Daddy, is inexplicable on the one hand - but entirely explicable if seen through the new lens of her traits of 'grandiosity' and 'untouchability' and H's trait of being compulsively attached to it all.

ancientgran · 31/08/2022 10:13

AchatAVendre · 30/08/2022 19:38

I really don't think he would. Considering that all libel trials have to take place in the High Court, how lengthy the build up is and how generally the bad publicity generated from full reporting on libel trials often leads to more public damage than the initial accusation/wrong statement, I very much doubt that the Queen whose very effective motto has been "never complain, never explain" would countenance paying his legal bills for that.

Can you imagine mumsnet calling witnesses to explain why, in common parlance, the meaning of "peadophile" has changed to include a widely accepted colloquial meaning beyond its strict academic definition, and then the RF trying to explain why they are seeking to close down free speech amongst their subjects so as to financially benefit a man who has already paid out millions in civil damages for something he allegedly didn't do?

The best way forward for PA now is to quietly enjoy his wealth and privilege and to keep his head down, not seek out more notoriety. Libel trials often spectacularly backfire, even when they don't include matters that people are notoriously touchy about such as exploiting very young vulnerable teenagers.

Then you have to consider how many times online the same allegation has been made and how the RF and PA would justify coming after a bunch of mainly women...absolute PR disaster.

Then, in order to win damages, PS would have to prove that he had lost work or commercial income due to the damage to his reputation and not due to his own conduct. That too, would have to be fully explained in detail in evidence, including evidence relating to commercial enterprises that those involved would undoubtedly prefer to remain secret.

I wasn't saying he'd do it, I was saying he'd win. You can't possibly mean that having sex with a 16 or 17 year old makes someone a paedophile? I wonder how many people who use the word incorrectly on here were actually virgins ont heir 18th birthday or whose partner was. So many paedophiles about.

I recently sat in the waiting room of a local health centre, one half of the waiting room was for the sexual health clinic and the vast majority of clients were in school uniform.

I say again the issue is of consent, if she didn't freely give consent there is a crime and her age is irrelevant as far as UK law goes as she was of age to give consent.

You can still marry in the UK at 16, you can legally have sex. The fact that people constantly misuse a word doesn't make it OK.

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