Page 22 | Meghan Markle Archetype podcasts & interviews

susan12345678 · 2022-08-30T06:17:52+00:00

As the last thread filled up & there's plenty of discussion of Meghan's interview in The Cut, seems worthwhile starting a new thread! A read yesterday that a series of media interviews are planned to promote the podcasts. Should be very interesting if The Cut interview is anything to go by!

KatherineSwynford1403 · 30/08/2022 21:17

FrippEnos · 30/08/2022 18:35

I don't think that he is under any spell. I think that he truly loves her.

And when they break up I think that it will destroy him.

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I don't believe she loves Harry. Or that she loved Trevor. She simply uses people.

Gilmorehill · 30/08/2022 21:18

It does seem the RF and the Queen in particular tried to do what they could to
give M a good start in the RF.

CauliflowerCheese30 · 30/08/2022 21:18

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 30/08/2022 20:32

I think that the Firm must be bitterly disappointed in how this has turned out. They really wanted it to work, they wanted MM to be the person of colour ( is that okay this week) who married into the vile colonist institution and made it all alright, or at least a bit better. I think they tried pretty hard.

I don’t think that if Harry had wanted to marry a white blonde sit com actress who was a very recent divorcée , older than him , whom he had met less than a year before the announcement, they would have no been so accommodating. I don’t think the Archbishop of Canterbury would have broken the rules on divorced people marrying in church which had been enforced on the Prince of Wales and Camilla , especially when the bride had not been a member of that church for more than a month or two. I dont think they would have gone along with the charade of the white dress ( or three) and the veil which the Queen was fairly surprised by. I don’t think that the Prince of Wales would have escorted the bride down the aisle to marry his son the groom , when the bride had a a father, an uncle or …..well almost any one else of vague suitability.

As for the racism, the AOC found a black preacher ( Megan didn’t know him) for the wedding. They welcomed a gospel choir to perform during the service. Perhaps this was condescending, or the wrong sort of welcome, but I think they did their best.

they were allowed to rent from Soho Farmhouse, I believe an unprecedented choice of abode. Then they moved to Frogmore , which cost a small fortune to do up in a very individual style.

The Queen persuaded her personal secretary to work for Meghan. she invited her on the Royal train before she was married, an unprecedented gesture.

I think they did their best to welcome her, maybe not from the purest motives, but only God sees them and can judge them. I don’t think they have got much thanks for it.

Well said.

CauliflowerCheese30 · 30/08/2022 21:19

It was apparently Charles who got in touch with the choir for the wedding too.

Lineala · 30/08/2022 21:27

AchatAVendre · 30/08/2022 20:21

He didn't sue Virginia Guiffre for libel though, did he? Although apparently he didn't do anything wrong, you would think he would have sued her for defamation if that was in fact correct. Very lucrative to do so in the US courts but could also have done it to various newspapers who reported on the matter here.

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Why would he? The matter was investigated by the appropriate criminal bodies both sides of the Atlantic and no charges were brought.

PA was no doubt told to make it go away. To have to appear in court in the US albeit on a civil matter would be an untenable position. He could have been asked questions that would embarrass the family, breach security, and do you really think the trial would have been fair with the trial by media taking place?

SpinCityBlues · 30/08/2022 21:34

Tell you what I'd like to see.

An unequivocal condemnation of Andrew's friendship with Epstein and Maxwell and the trafficking, and the failure to talk to the FBI, from Meghan and Harry.

Maireas · 30/08/2022 21:34

CauliflowerCheese30 · 30/08/2022 21:19

It was apparently Charles who got in touch with the choir for the wedding too.

Also the black cellist

CauliflowerCheese30 · 30/08/2022 21:36

Maireas · 30/08/2022 21:34

Also the black cellist

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He was amazing!

SilverLiningPlaybook · 30/08/2022 21:42

KatherineSwynford1403 · 30/08/2022 21:17

I don't believe she loves Harry. Or that she loved Trevor. She simply uses people.

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I think this is also a mark of a narcissist. The only person they really love is themselves.

Maireas · 30/08/2022 21:49

CauliflowerCheese30 · 30/08/2022 21:36

He was amazing!

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He was. In fact it was genuinely a beautiful and moving service.

AchatAVendre · 30/08/2022 21:54

Lineala · 30/08/2022 21:27

Why would he? The matter was investigated by the appropriate criminal bodies both sides of the Atlantic and no charges were brought.

PA was no doubt told to make it go away. To have to appear in court in the US albeit on a civil matter would be an untenable position. He could have been asked questions that would embarrass the family, breach security, and do you really think the trial would have been fair with the trial by media taking place?

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Because the RF have a legal team which generally threaten legal action against anyone who makes false allegations or allegations which cannot be proven against them, right from the outset.

justasking111 · 30/08/2022 22:03

I really enjoyed MM and Harry wedding. It was joyfully different. The music especially

Maireas · 30/08/2022 22:07

Eternal Source of Light Divine sung by Elin Manahan Thomas was such a beautiful processional.
All the music was chosen by Charles. It was spot on, imo.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 30/08/2022 22:10

I didn’t know all the music was chosen by Charles

CauliflowerCheese30 · 30/08/2022 22:10

justasking111 · 30/08/2022 22:03

I really enjoyed MM and Harry wedding. It was joyfully different. The music especially

You can thank Charles for that. She won't thank him for it though, being the spectacle that it was.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 30/08/2022 22:11

It must have been incredibly hurtful for Charles in particular to hear that they didn’t consider it their real wedding and it was just for show.

Arnaquer · 30/08/2022 22:14

Sheku Kanneh-Mason was the cellist. He and his 6 siblings are phenomenal

derxa · 30/08/2022 22:15

SilverLiningPlaybook · 30/08/2022 22:11

It must have been incredibly hurtful for Charles in particular to hear that they didn’t consider it their real wedding and it was just for show.

They're appalling people

Maireas · 30/08/2022 22:16

Arnaquer · 30/08/2022 22:14

Sheku Kanneh-Mason was the cellist. He and his 6 siblings are phenomenal

They are! His solo was sublime

Maireas · 30/08/2022 22:17

SilverLiningPlaybook · 30/08/2022 22:10

I didn’t know all the music was chosen by Charles

Yes, he's a wonderful patron of music and musicians. I think he tried to make the music meaningful and appropriate.

MarshaMelrose · 30/08/2022 22:32

I think Harry is genuinely in love with her. I think things she does like keep touching him to take his attention away from other people annoys him. But he loves her. And I really hope they stay like that for them and for their children. Because I can't see how he can ever leave her. Where would he go? Would he really slink back to the UK?
I remember reading that Wallis Simpson wanted to leave the Duke of Windsor but after all they'd been through, she felt she couldn't. That the publicity over it would be unbearable for them both. So she stayed with him, even though she wasn't happy and ended up having affairs.

StartupRepair · 30/08/2022 22:34

The archetypes instead of stereotypes just fries my brain and makes me question my own understanding. It's like a global gaslighting.
I thought the wedding was beautiful, joyful and inclusive.

MarshaMelrose · 30/08/2022 22:38

They're in a partnership at the moment with the Mandela Foundation - which is why they asked Harry to speak at the UN. I wonder how her likening herself to a female Mandela will go down with them. Especially as Mandelas grandson has rebuked her words.

Greentrees2021 · 30/08/2022 22:48

"Earlier in our conversation about her goals for the life she’s creating here, she’d remarked upon how, if Archie were in school in the U.K., she’d never be able to do school pickup and drop-off without it being a royal photo call with a press pen of 40 people snapping pictures. “Sorry, I have a problem with that. That doesn’t make me obsessed with privacy. That makes me a strong and good parent protecting my child,” Meghan says. For now, even though two Montecito moms waiting in front of the school stopped mid-chat to do a double take, Archie is just the cheerful kid who brings a week’s worth of freshly picked fruit for his fellow classmates and enjoys playing a “roaring” game at recess."

Did anyone else read this part of the article as the journalist implying that she doesn't usually do the school run anyway and it's all for show for this article? That's what I read by the point being made about the other mums doing a double take - if she was there on the school run every day, why would they do a double take?

SilverLiningPlaybook · 30/08/2022 22:49

MarshaMelrose · 30/08/2022 22:32

I think Harry is genuinely in love with her. I think things she does like keep touching him to take his attention away from other people annoys him. But he loves her. And I really hope they stay like that for them and for their children. Because I can't see how he can ever leave her. Where would he go? Would he really slink back to the UK?
I remember reading that Wallis Simpson wanted to leave the Duke of Windsor but after all they'd been through, she felt she couldn't. That the publicity over it would be unbearable for them both. So she stayed with him, even though she wasn't happy and ended up having affairs.

I think she’s become a mother substitute for him and losing her would trigger a whole lot of pain from the past. I think he was pretty lonely and lost before he met her and needs her more than she needs him. She has all the power and control. He just looks up to her and follows her lead. For most women that would become irritating after a while. Her ego thrives on it for now, but things may change .

I hope they stay together and mature. Stop grandstanding and carping. Look around them and be grateful for what they have , and try to mend bridges . I don’t think it will happen though.