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The royal family

Meghan Markle Archetype podcasts & interviews

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susan12345678 · 30/08/2022 07:17

As the last thread filled up & there's plenty of discussion of Meghan's interview in The Cut, seems worthwhile starting a new thread!

A read yesterday that a series of media interviews are planned to promote the podcasts. Should be very interesting if The Cut interview is anything to go by!

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HannahSternDefoe · 30/08/2022 14:12

They don't use the n-word, but choose to use "niggle", just to raise the pulse of the conversation by association. They could, for example, said "plagued by doubts" instead of "niggled by doubts". It's a cheap wink to those who would freely use the n-word without actually saying it.

So the niggles in DH back and leg (sciatic nerve) and my ankle (knackered) are plagued with doubt?
Unfortunately for us, they come and go...the one thing they don't do is shut the fuck up and bugger off.

A niggle is an irritant. Don't paint it as being anything else.

Wheresthebeach · 30/08/2022 14:13

Love the ending of the NYTimes article:

“I think forgiveness is really important,” Meghan says, adding that she has “a lot to say until I don’t. Sometimes, as they say, the silent part is still part of the song.”
Meghan Markle, two very weary nations beg you: Please. Be that silent part.

If they thought the British Press was bad...wait til the US press really get their teeth out.

ArcaneLana · 30/08/2022 14:14

Harry doesn’t seem trapped to me. He seems like a man who loves his wife very much and she loves him. The two of them are flawed human beings just like the rest of us but I never really understood the narrative of him being trapped.

ArcaneLana · 30/08/2022 14:15

I actually enjoyed the Mariah podcast more than last week’s one. The mixed race part of the conversation was so good.. I felt seen.

IcedPurple · 30/08/2022 14:18

MaulPerton · 30/08/2022 14:12

MM just isn’t relevant now - we were only interested if she was going to be a member of the Royal Family. She doesn’t have anything news worthy so her interviews etc are filled with snippets of the one thing that made her interesting

Gwyneth Paltrow and the Kardashians are just some who have 'made it' on the back of controversy and outrage, so MM is probably trying to do the same, as we can see now. Once the brand becomes self-sustaining, she will no longer need the RF. I didn't believe that the Kardashians or Gwyneth Paltrow had enough of anything to make them interesting but I was wrong.

I don't think she's that strategic.

I think she's driven by rage, bitterness and spite.

And in fairness to Gywneth Paltrow, she is an Oscar winning actress who appeared in several successful films. Even the Kardashians had a very popular long-running TV show. What is Meghan's 'product'? Other than complain about how hard she's had it as a royal, what does she actually do?

thecatsthecats · 30/08/2022 14:19

Interested to know how you accessed private messages without breaching data protection rules in a non-criminal setting though.

Oh, and I'd strongly recommend you do some reading on the law around data privacy as your next piece of Internet research, as you appear to have zero understanding of data protection and privacy law as it applies to electronic systems accessed in the workplace. The case law is well tested in this area.

1/10, must try harder.

Snog · 30/08/2022 14:28

I tried to listen to the new Mariah Carey podcast episode but couldn't get very far with it as I found it incredibly dull.
No "truth bombs" were unloaded in the first part that I listened to.
I actually haven't heard of any of the guests lined up for the rest of the series, perhaps they are more famous in America?

AchatAVendre · 30/08/2022 14:28

thecatsthecats · 30/08/2022 14:19

Interested to know how you accessed private messages without breaching data protection rules in a non-criminal setting though.

Oh, and I'd strongly recommend you do some reading on the law around data privacy as your next piece of Internet research, as you appear to have zero understanding of data protection and privacy law as it applies to electronic systems accessed in the workplace. The case law is well tested in this area.

1/10, must try harder.

No, I'm just testing you, not about to launch on following your instructions for internet based research, because what you wrote previously sounded improbably smug and trite. And conveniently unquantifiable. Although you have at last admitted that the data you mention does only refer to work related data...

AchatAVendre · 30/08/2022 14:32

thecatsthecats · 30/08/2022 14:12

Oh dear. You have grasped the wrong end of the stick and attempted to beat me over the head with it there.

  1. Your points about the word niggle are misfounded on the idea that I'm suggesting the word is inherently racist, or even that the specific instance was racist. I am just pointing out how the choice of it could be deliberately made with racist intentions.
  2. Your point about "plagued by doubts" is only relevant in the fact that it highlights that different phrases have different connotations.
  3. I said employee disciplinary, not employment tribunal, so your little bit of research was irrelevant. It never went to tribunal, because the employee's own solicitor advised against it given the clear evidence we had. Which was nothing to do with the word niggle.

(i) I'm looking forward to going to my GP to tell him that my ankle is "plagued by doubt". Grin

(ii) I'm often mistaken for not being British, so that will only add to the confusion!

(iii) I did distinguish between employment disciplinary and employment tribunal in my post that you are replying to, however you have failed to notice.

I don't think your attention to detail is quite as good as you would like it to be.

pieami · 30/08/2022 14:35

Is anyone going to hold her accountable for the human hair that is most likely trafficked attached to her head?

ArcaneLana · 30/08/2022 14:38

pieami · 30/08/2022 14:35

Is anyone going to hold her accountable for the human hair that is most likely trafficked attached to her head?

What does this mean? Meghan like most mixed race and black people actually have a lot of hair when we straighten it. Not all of us wear wigs or weaves. Plus most white people wear wigs, clip on on etc. what does that have to do with the conversation about doing mixed race or black hair?

amyneedssleep · 30/08/2022 14:38

NoName2223 · 30/08/2022 13:34

The author's comments on Twitter make it pretty clear what she thought of the awful interview:
twitter.com/AllisonPDavis/status/1564227514624606210?cxt=HHwWhIC80eGooLUrAAAA
She posted "THANK YOU FOR KNOWING..."
in response to comments such as
"The Etsy labels!!!!!! SileENCED. SO GOOD"

The person she replied to tweeted this yesterday:

Bolu Babalola (pure) 🍯&🌶
The irony in MM being the perfect PR princess for the royal family but they ruined it for themselves lol

Looking through her Meghan tweets, she doesn't appear to be someone who dislikes Meghan, but does enjoy the theatricality of celebrity profiles, and this is what she's thanking Allison Davis for: writing an entertaining and insightful take into one of the most famous women in the world.

As for Allison Davis, she seems to take Meghan as a multi-faceted individual with some strange quirks but overall a person with net positive attributes. She even writes this in the article:

'I find myself worrying that the words I write about her will be misinterpreted and dissected — rudely, maliciously — too.'

So as much as you might have an uncharitable take on the writer's opinion on Meghan, I'm pretty certain you're being short-sighted in doing so. It was a brilliantly written profile. Not sycophantic, but not a hatchet job either. In a world where this one woman manages to cause such hugely divisive opinions, it was a breath of fresh air.

Serenster · 30/08/2022 14:42

It was a breath of fresh air

It was a breath of some kind of air, certainly!

(Sorry, but that joke just wrote itself 😀)

susan12345678 · 30/08/2022 14:42

It was a brilliantly written profile. Not sycophantic, but not a hatchet job either. In a world where this one woman manages to cause such hugely divisive opinions, it was a breath of fresh air.

Well if she didn't intend to write a hatchet job, she must be feeling awful about the way it's been received.

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justasking111 · 30/08/2022 14:43

The important thing for royals everywhere is surely to measure their good works to justify their existence.

Skodacool · 30/08/2022 14:46

LittleBearPad · 30/08/2022 08:01

The school run comments are just mad. The Cambridges have been doing the school run for years without the children being papped.

This is typical of the misinformation the Sussexes are putting out there, and people believe them. Have a look at this.

www.gransnet.com/forums/chat/1314743-Duchess-of-Sussex-the-bullying-has-to-stop?utm_source=sendinblue&utm_campaign=Gransnet%20Daily%20300822%20Tuesday&utm_medium=email

CPL593H · 30/08/2022 14:46

Wheresthebeach · 30/08/2022 14:13

Love the ending of the NYTimes article:

“I think forgiveness is really important,” Meghan says, adding that she has “a lot to say until I don’t. Sometimes, as they say, the silent part is still part of the song.”
Meghan Markle, two very weary nations beg you: Please. Be that silent part.

If they thought the British Press was bad...wait til the US press really get their teeth out.

This struck me. If the US media turn on them in numbers they will have real problems. Anyway, it demonstrates that it is not just the evil Brits who have some issues with the course they seem to be pursuing at times.

amyneedssleep · 30/08/2022 14:46

ArcaneLana · 30/08/2022 14:14

Harry doesn’t seem trapped to me. He seems like a man who loves his wife very much and she loves him. The two of them are flawed human beings just like the rest of us but I never really understood the narrative of him being trapped.

It is the ancient racist trope of the black temptress stealing away the white woman's man. Harry was the people's prince, and a lot of obsessed royalists still cannot accept the fact that he chose a woman of colour, and not just that, one who is confident and outspoken. If they straight out declared that she used some sort of voodoo spell on him they'd be called crazy, so instead they come up with this narrative that she's a narcissist who has gaslit him into a relationship and now he's too isolated to escape.

Serenster · 30/08/2022 14:46

Also, on a serious note, I completely agree that Meghan would have been the perfect PR princess for the Royal Family. But, that only works if both parties know what they are taking on. In this case, I think that was so far from the case that it was doomed to failure from the outset.

amyneedssleep · 30/08/2022 14:50

susan12345678 · 30/08/2022 14:42

It was a brilliantly written profile. Not sycophantic, but not a hatchet job either. In a world where this one woman manages to cause such hugely divisive opinions, it was a breath of fresh air.

Well if she didn't intend to write a hatchet job, she must be feeling awful about the way it's been received.

You mean the way it's been received by the right wing tabloid press, who then drown out the airwaves with relentless negative commentary on it so that it appears everyone is saying the same thing? Yeah, I'm sure she had an idea of how that would go, but she's getting a lot of love for it from more people with more nuanced takes on the world of public figures, so she'll be okay.

IcedPurple · 30/08/2022 14:51

and this is what she's thanking Allison Davis for: writing an entertaining and insightful take into one of the most famous women in the world.

Meghan is nowhere near being 'one of the most famous women in the world'.

justasking111 · 30/08/2022 14:53

Why would Meghan give a fig the article is aimed at the American market not the British one

pieami · 30/08/2022 14:55

@ArcaneLana www.shape.com/lifestyle/beauty-style/meghan-markle-clip-in-hair-extensions

I only mention it as she is supposedly a champion of woman's rights but seemingly overlooks impoverished women in China/India

Human hair trade is exploiting ASEAN women

Serenster · 30/08/2022 14:55

this narrative that she's a narcissist who has gaslit him into a relationship and now he's too isolated to escape.

He is isolated though. He has lost contact with pretty much all his old friends and his family, and moved far away to a new country and a new culture he he has no existing support network other than his wife and children. Meghan herself acknowledges in the article that also had no friends in Montecito:

I ask if Harry feels isolated without any family nearby. “Well, look, we’re both building community,” she responds. “I didn’t have friends up here.

Meghan may or may not be a narcissist - I’m certainly not going to start throwing those terms around! But it is a straightforward fact that Harry is in a vulnerable position if someone wanted to take advantage of him.

amyneedssleep · 30/08/2022 14:56

@IcedPurple - then someone needs to tell the tabloids and media that, because she is on their front pages and most viewed content on a daily basis.

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