Meghan Markle Archetype podcasts & interviews

[susan12345678]

As the last thread filled up & there's plenty of discussion of Meghan's interview in The Cut, seems worthwhile starting a new thread!

A read yesterday that a series of media interviews are planned to promote the podcasts. Should be very interesting if The Cut interview is anything to go by!

Talk about digging a bigger hole every time she opens are mouth

Yes, but also potentially very profitable for them. Everyone will be tuning in now! Is MM a PR genius?

They don't give a shit about the royals, except for the money they can make from them.

That also perfectly describes H and M, they wanted to leave to give themselves a platform to make money from totally unsubstantiated stories, they know that the RF won't respond other than the sublime put-down 'recollections vary'. Maybe someone in the RF needs to break ranks and then she can make the inevitable comment about her heritage from her mother.

@alondra *I honestly don't understand the sheer vitriol against Meghan

Then you should educate yourself about Royal protocols, Royal titles and inheritance, and British law. That's what an intelligent educated woman would do before jumping into the fray. Pity Meghan didn't.

FYI, whenever the Sussexes visit UK they all receive UK Police Royal Protection. Just like the Queen, Charles, William and Kate. Paid for by UK taxpayers.

The Sussexes are whining because they arent allowed to bring their private hired guns from USA.

Well now 'reportedly' the Mandela family have commented...taken from DM, as I don't want to link.
Madiba's celebration was based on overcoming 350 years of colonialism with 60 years of a brutal apartheid regime in South Africa. So It cannot be equated to as the same.' His grandfather served 27 years in prison before being released and re-uniting opponents and going on to lead his country. Zwelivelile said when the people of South Africa expressed their joy at his grandfather's release and danced in the streets, it was for a far more important and serious reason than her marriage 'to a white prince'.
I think she's really 'jumped the shark' this time.

I hate the way the media turned against her and Harry after initially fêting them. I could see it coming but it didn't take long. The Daily Mail is the worst, they will take the slightest thing and hyperbolise it; they actually go out of their way to search for things. Meghan and Harry are not the only people to go through this.

Shame Her Majesty's ( the Queen, not Meghan🤣) is having to deal with all this in her twilight years . She's 96 ffs and increasingly frail and increasingly less in the public eye. H&M would gain more respect if they just kept a low profile and stop pissing on the RF. Whatever else they are they are OUR Royal Family and I know many of the American public love all the pomp and ceremony of having a real Queen. What we don't need is a bit part American actress slurring them at every opportunity Just bloody leave em alone!!

no way haha 😂 black cab driver!

Does Harry not just tell megs what a black cab driver is? Or do they think this is some coded dog whistling.

The author's comments on Twitter make it pretty clear what she thought of the awful interview:
twitter.com/AllisonPDavis/status/1564227514624606210?cxt=HHwWhIC80eGooLUrAAAA
She posted "THANK YOU FOR KNOWING..."
in response to comments such as
"The Etsy labels!!!!!! SileENCED. SO GOOD"

Yes, I wonder what the significance of the spelling of SileENCED is, in the article and on the author's Twitter feed. Obviously means something but I couldn't work it out...

I know people like this in RL too. It astonishes me how some people can fester for years. It’s very unhealthy.

@tattychicken it’s a reference to the Oprah interview when she asked “were you silent or were you silencED”

people.com/royals/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-silenced-by-royal-family/

Oh that really is grasping at straws.

people with hearing impairments don’t get offended if someone says “I hear what you are saying”

people who are blind don’t get offended if others say, “well you see…”

because these are perfectly normal phrases.

"Niggle" is not a "colloquialism". Again, Britain is a large country north to south and the majority of it gis not in London or the south east and does not speak either some kind of non-native influenced English. "Niggle" is a very common word here, not a choice but the word to describe something annoying. To suggest that dialect is racist is really offensive and extremely ignorant.

"Plagued by doubts" to me sounds affected. So have you researched where the writer of this remark came from and where their parents originated, in order to provide background evidence equivalent to the unearthed private messages in the disciplinaries that you refer to? btw no such cases come up on Westlaw or Lexis under a subject search in employment tribunals but they are hardly infallible, although it does however indicate that your claim is unquantifiable. Interested to know how you accessed private messages without breaching data protection rules in a non-criminal setting though.

Its a horrible and quite bizarre accusation for the majority of English speakers, so I feel that it should be backed up by some evidence, not just a potentially biased claim that "niggle" is a deliberate choice because it sounds a bit like a slang offensive word of much later origin.

The Mariah podcast has dropped, I’ve not listened to it but credit to Meghan about this comment

She added: 'Because we're light skinned, you are not treated as a black woman. You're not treated as a white woman. You sort of fit in between. If there is any time where there was more focus on my race it was when I started dating my husband. Then I started to understand what it was like to be treated like a black woman because up until then I was treated as a mixed woman and things really shifted'.

Ms Carey replied: 'But that's an interesting thing, a mixed woman, because I always thought it should be OK to say I'm mixed, like it should be OK to say that, but people want you to choose.'

In fairness to Harry he did look very awkward when she said this to Oprah.

I think at times he must think WTF/how the hell have I ended up here?!

But he has very little choice now in what options he has; his children are in the States, he’s got a fractured relationship with his dad and brother, but most importantly what would MM do without him being around - oh the stories we would hear!!

MM just isn’t relevant now - we were only interested if she was going to be a member of the Royal Family. She doesn’t have anything news worthy so her interviews etc are filled with snippets of the one thing that made her interesting.

I do feel very sorry for him - we know he struggles with his mental health, as do his family. It must be a worry for them I think.

@AdriannaP
Yes!! Thank you! Obvious now you've explained but I couldn't see it before.

That article is just brilliant. Thanks for sharing it.

"Niggle" is a very common word here, not a choice but the word to describe something annoying. To suggest that dialect is racist is really offensive and extremely ignorant.

Doing a search for the latest tweets using niggle makes this clear - tens and tens of tweets from today alone, the vast majority being with a wide spread of people discussing footballers with minor injury issues.

I agree. They must be worried sick. However one day he might wake up and smell the coffee.
He would never want to lose his children, that will be his over riding consideration I think. So it would probably take an awful lot before he did allow himself to confront the situation.

But he has very little choice now in what options he has; his children are in the States, he’s got a fractured relationship with his dad and brother, but most importantly what would MM do without him being around - oh the stories we would hear!!

I agree. He talks about his brother being 'trapped' but he seems like the trapped one to me.

Oh, to be a fly on the stable wall round at Gatcombe Park...

They would be offended if they know you have a history of bashing them and taking a pop.

Black people have a history of being compared to animals.

It is journalist duty to watch the words they use and how they use them to whom. They also know how to twist, and which words can be of influence.

Anyway, you know what. Most posters have already made up their minds that H&M are villains. So will leave you to it and go join the millions who are open to listening to them and enjoy the Mariah episode.

Cheers.

Oh dear. You have grasped the wrong end of the stick and attempted to beat me over the head with it there.

1. Your points about the word niggle are misfounded on the idea that I'm suggesting the word is inherently racist, or even that the specific instance was racist. I am just pointing out how the choice of it could be deliberately made with racist intentions.
2. Your point about "plagued by doubts" is only relevant in the fact that it highlights that different phrases have different connotations.
3. I said employee disciplinary, not employment tribunal, so your little bit of research was irrelevant. It never went to tribunal, because the employee's own solicitor advised against it given the clear evidence we had. Which was nothing to do with the word niggle.

MM just isn’t relevant now - we were only interested if she was going to be a member of the Royal Family. She doesn’t have anything news worthy so her interviews etc are filled with snippets of the one thing that made her interesting

Gwyneth Paltrow and the Kardashians are just some who have 'made it' on the back of controversy and outrage, so MM is probably trying to do the same, as we can see now. Once the brand becomes self-sustaining, she will no longer need the RF. I didn't believe that the Kardashians or Gwyneth Paltrow had enough of anything to make them interesting but I was wrong.