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The royal family

Meghan Markle Archetype podcast

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susan12345678 · 24/08/2022 08:30

Meghan's long-awaited podcast has launched. Sorry if there's a thread about this already. Has anyone listened to it yet? Thoughts?

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SilverLiningPlaybook · 25/08/2022 07:46

Corcory · 24/08/2022 23:03

Well, I've only heard small pieces of the pod cast and read excerpts. But really, who the H does she think she is! This ridiculous story about a 'fire' in Archie's bedroom turns out to be a heater that started to smoke. He wasn't in the room at the time so no harm done. But it really exemplifies just how unsuitable she was to be a Royal She certainly has never thought that she should 'say nothing and carry on'. I mean can you imagine the Queen or Princes Anne cancelling because of an over heated heater Or Kate or Sophie come to think of it Complete load of drivel, all poor poor me! Look what 'they' made me go through. Give me strength!

The trouble is, people in the US will lap it up, and that’s what she’s counting on.

Cloud9isnowclosed · 25/08/2022 07:48

It was the first outrider police motor cyclist sent out up front to hold back traffic that was in the collision, not "their car"

Nishky32 · 25/08/2022 07:49

notanotheroneagain · 25/08/2022 07:33

Yes, I remember this, her family was devastated.

Later, W&K's entourage had an accident where their car knocked over an old lady. Her family must have been grieving.

But, hey ho, carry on. It's all royal work you know.

Do you mean the woman hit by the police motorcyclist or another incident - not aware of an incident involving a car that led to fatality

Readinginthesun · 25/08/2022 07:49

Cloud9isnowclosed · 25/08/2022 07:48

It was the first outrider police motor cyclist sent out up front to hold back traffic that was in the collision, not "their car"

Thanks - you beat me to it !

Kensington Palace revealed: "The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were deeply concerned and saddened to hear about the accident on Monday afternoon. Their Royal Highnesses have sent their very best wishes to Irene and her family and will stay in touch throughout every stage of her recovery." It is understood that William and Kate have sent flowers, and have asked to visit Irene if she is up to it.

But hey why waste an opportunity to rubbish W and C with the truth !

Readinginthesun · 25/08/2022 07:50

SilverLiningPlaybook · 25/08/2022 07:46

The trouble is, people in the US will lap it up, and that’s what she’s counting on.

Not judging by some of the reports I have read !

notanotheroneagain · 25/08/2022 08:16

Yes, exactly. Did someone ask if W&K were alright and could carry on with their engagement since one of their protection officers has just knocked over someone.

They were trying to protect W&K, so surely they realise that it was because of his protection that the woman is knocked over. They surely realise their role, hence sending flowers later, but it must have been traumatising when it happened.

LondonWolf · 25/08/2022 08:32

Later, W&K's entourage had an accident where their car knocked over an old lady. Her family must have been grieving.

This purposeful and exaggerated misrepresentation, forgetting that people can check what actually happened, reminds me of someone...

Serenster · 25/08/2022 08:37

The trouble with taking on a role with all that fame and influence is that, in many cases, it also comes with public obligations. This is a very minor example where the expectation was that the show must go on, but her saying that it’s nonsense that optics matter more than feelings is a big flag that Meghan would be wholly unsuited to a role in high public office in the US. I don’t imagine George W. Bush felt great about being separated from his family and bundled into Air Force One to fly around the empty airspace when 9/11 happened, but he did so, and gave several addresses to the US, while calmly telling his team “okay boys, this is what they pay us for”.

The Queen Mother was living in Buckingham Palace when it was bombed in the war. The whole Royal Family resisted suggestions they evacuate to Canada for the duration of the way because they realised optics matter. And lest you think that’s too historic an example to be of much relevance, Zelensky, his wife, Klitschov, the leader of the opposition party in Ukraine - all of them also realised that being in public positions when war broke out meant their personal feelings were entirely secondary to the optics of their roles. Something for Meghan to ponder if she really does have political aspirations.

AdriannaP · 25/08/2022 08:41

Agree it was rude to mock a British accent. No idea what the purpose of Harry’s cameo was.

in all this I always find it astonishing how she never speaks of others. The people in the township who prepared for weeks and months for her visit (probably a highlight in their lives) and who really live difficult lives. It’s all about her hardship and her struggles. (Also in that famous interview on the SA tour). I am not an Royalist but I do admire people like Prince Philip who have suffered incredible hardships and pain (see his childhood, death of his sister etc) and who went on and didn’t constantly complain and moan. I really think MM didn’t understand the BRF at all and what it means to be in service of others.

SpindleInTheWind · 25/08/2022 08:50

“Someone did a count of the transcript and Meghan talked 1.5 time as much as Serena.“

I got told off once as a postgraduate for chairing a seminar like this Blush (they were letting us practice on undergrads) (those were the days).

Anyway, rookie error apparently. Never did it again.

Readinginthesun · 25/08/2022 08:56

SpindleInTheWind · 25/08/2022 08:50

“Someone did a count of the transcript and Meghan talked 1.5 time as much as Serena.“

I got told off once as a postgraduate for chairing a seminar like this Blush (they were letting us practice on undergrads) (those were the days).

Anyway, rookie error apparently. Never did it again.

Someone (with too much time on their hands )said that the I was the most used word !

Serenster · 25/08/2022 09:09

(Transcription programmes do word usage counts for you 😀)

SilverLiningPlaybook · 25/08/2022 09:13

AdriannaP · 25/08/2022 08:41

Agree it was rude to mock a British accent. No idea what the purpose of Harry’s cameo was.

in all this I always find it astonishing how she never speaks of others. The people in the township who prepared for weeks and months for her visit (probably a highlight in their lives) and who really live difficult lives. It’s all about her hardship and her struggles. (Also in that famous interview on the SA tour). I am not an Royalist but I do admire people like Prince Philip who have suffered incredible hardships and pain (see his childhood, death of his sister etc) and who went on and didn’t constantly complain and moan. I really think MM didn’t understand the BRF at all and what it means to be in service of others.

Completely agree with this

MyPurpleHeart · 25/08/2022 09:15

Have you seen King Richard? I loved the movie and was surprised to learn that Venus was the prodigy who got the high level coaching. Their dad filmed it all and Serena practiced from the videos at home. Look at her now, a phenomenal talent

antelopevalley · 25/08/2022 09:26

SilverLiningPlaybook · 25/08/2022 09:13

Completely agree with this

Prince Philip was an awful man whose racism and misogyny were constantly excused as gaffes.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 25/08/2022 09:30

antelopevalley · 25/08/2022 09:26

Prince Philip was an awful man whose racism and misogyny were constantly excused as gaffes.

PP did a lot of good . His attitudes were of his time and upbringing. He wasn’t the most tactful man but he didn’t whinge and he showed great personal strength of character in the face of pretty awful life events before his marriage.

Ohnonevermind · 25/08/2022 09:34

Meghan herself said that in these podcasts we’ll get to know the real her, and we are,
Unfortunately the real her is completely self centred, intellectually vacuous and rather dull
She seems unable to appear spontaneous and has a terrible sense of humour.

judging by the bench, she refuses editorial direction so I wonder will the podcasts get any better

archewell were looking for peoples stories and the t&c said they’d own them so perhaps she’ll pinch some of the good ones and try to pass them off as her own

MangshorJhol · 25/08/2022 09:37

So in the US the idea of ‘service’ is a bit different and a bit weird. (I argue with DH about this). Say you are a doctor and you could easily earn half a million BUT you choose to work in a safety net hospital (usually for the uninsured/poor) and earn 200K instead. To me, that’s not service. That’s just a career choice. An altruistic one but a career choice.
DH has a friend like this. Her kids go to private school. She goes on about how ‘service’ as a career choice was important to her.
I think it’s such a capitalistic society that anyone who chooses not to earn the most they can or opts for a job that might give them satisfaction is almost seen as doing a ‘service’ to the people.
I find this very odd. DH who grew up in the US doesn’t although he gets my point now.

I grew up in India. Service to me is the kind of people who live amongst the very poor, living a simple lifestyle and trying to provide basic healthcare (as an example). Earning just about enough but no more. Eschewing the trappings of a comfortable life. That’s service.

antelopevalley · 25/08/2022 09:41

The podcast is not aimed at British people. It is aimed at Americans. From what I have seen in the press the Americans love this podcast.
Every product has a target market it is made for.
And cultural differences are very real.

LondonWolf · 25/08/2022 09:44

Prince Philip was an awful man whose racism and misogyny were constantly excused as gaffes.

Prince Philip was an old man who didn't move with social and cultural changes as quickly as current social media zealots demanded he did. He fought fascism, in an actual real war against facism, for which he was honoured multiple times. His mother assisted Jews in Athens during the Holocaust and as such was given the title of "Righteous among nations" by Yad Vashem and "Hero of the Holocaust" by the British. He left his naval career, which he loved to support the queen in her work for the next multiple decades. Whatever you think about his idea of duty is irrelevant. He knew his duty and he stuck to it ferociously in keeping with the societal values OF THAT TIME.

What have you ever done that comes close to any of that?

antelopevalley · 25/08/2022 09:50

SilverLiningPlaybook · 25/08/2022 09:30

PP did a lot of good . His attitudes were of his time and upbringing. He wasn’t the most tactful man but he didn’t whinge and he showed great personal strength of character in the face of pretty awful life events before his marriage.

I hate this idea that he was of his time so his attitudes were okay. My grandparents were older than him, in some ways quite traditional, but thought some of the things he said were terrible. My grandmother in particular thought he was very rude to people, which he was. Some examples below of the kind of things he said. How anyone can say they admire Prince Philip is beyond me. He was an awful man.

"British women can't cook," he told the Scottish Womens' Institute in 1961. Incredibly rude aside from the misogyny.

"It looks like the kind of thing my daughter would bring back from her school art lessons," he muttered while being shown Ethiopian art in 1965.

"You are a woman, aren't you?" he said to a Kenyan woman, who was presenting him with a small gift in 1984.

"If you stay here much longer you will all be slitty-eyed," the Prince told British exchange students who lived in Xian in 1986. When asked about his opinion of Beijing, he replied: "Ghastly."

"I don't think a prostitute is more moral than a wife, but they are doing the same thing," when dismissing claims those who slaughter for meat have greater moral authority than those who partake in blood sports in 1988.

"You can't have been here that long -- you haven't got a pot belly," he told a British tourist during a visit to Budapest in 1993.

"How do you keep the natives off the booze long enough to pass the test?" he asked a Scottish driving instructor in 1995.

"You could do with losing a little bit of weight," he told 13-year-old Andrew Adams, after hearing he wanted to become an astronaut while visiting a science museum in 2001.

"So who's on drugs here?... He looks as if he's on drugs," he said of a 14-year-old boy while at a Bangladeshi youth club in 2002.

"That's a nice tie ... Do you have any knickers in that material?" he asked Annabel Goldie, the Scottish Conservative leader when welcoming Benedict XVI to Edinburgh in 2010.

"Is it a strip club?" he asked when meeting a female Sea Cadet who told the Prince she worked in a nightclub, in 2009.

antelopevalley · 25/08/2022 09:52

@LondonWolf His mother is someone to admire. She genuinely dedicated a large portion of her life to helping people in desperate need.

LondonWolf · 25/08/2022 09:57

I hate this idea that he was of his time so his attitudes were okay.

But I have never seen anyone say this. They just don't write him off as nothing but a racist, nasty man...like you did.

AdriannaP · 25/08/2022 09:58

I didn’t bring up PP to make this about him. My point was that he definitely experienced hardship, traumata, and had a very dysfunctional childhood. Despite all this he committed his life to service, did lots of good (Duke of Edinburgh, support of environment and WWF etc) and didn’t complain. He knew he was privileged to live in a Palace and be married to the Queen.

He never made it about him, or his “lived experience”. He didn’t moan about what “they” made him do or his role. I know of his faults but still have a lot of respect for him and what he has done.

FWIW I think Harry is the same spoilt moaner as Meghan.

antelopevalley · 25/08/2022 10:00

@LondonWolf The comment just above you? "PP did a lot of good . His attitudes were of his time and upbringing."
Absolutely does say he was of his time so it was fine.

He did come across as a nasty man. His racism and misogyny were incredibly blatant. And he was also incredibly rude time and time again. In my experience decent nice people do not behave in that way.

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