Meghan Markle Archetype podcast

[susan12345678]

Meghan's long-awaited podcast has launched. Sorry if there's a thread about this already. Has anyone listened to it yet? Thoughts?

The only moaning minnie seems to be you. Moaning about an interview from 2yrs ago and 50 seconds of her talking about her child.

She is not Markle btw, she is not married to mr markle.

What actually is her legal surname now in the US?

Oh, lighten up. It was a just a joke. I haven't moaned about her. I've said to give her a chance because interviewing is hard and these are early days. Pfft.

The interesting thing about H&M is that they seem convinced that their unpopularity is due to biased media coverage. But the more we hear from them directly, the deeper they dig the hole as their very own accounts don't put them in a favourable light - they just can't see it.

The problem is that they completely lack self awareness, but people can see that their actions don't tally with their words.

M saying people are 'linked not ranked' doesn't make any sense then when they insist on being introduced everywhere as Duke and Duchess (although it's interesting that this isn't the case on the new podcast), and making such a fuss about their children not being given Prince/Princess titles when they've actively talked about their dislike for the "institution" and Harry's family being trapped within it.

Harry preaching about climate change rankles when he takes private jets left right and centre.

Complaining about being cut off by your parent when you have 30million in the bank is tone deaf beyond belief.

Harry behaves like a petulant spoilt child, stomping his feet about not being able to pick and choose the bits of being Royal that he liked. I think he has a hugely overinflated sense of importance - it never occurred to him that he only got full time police security because he was a senior working Royal, or that his military patronages were linked to this either. I don't know how he can have missed the fact that others in the RF with equally close family relation to the Queen got less or even no security, funding or prestigious positions, and just get on with it.

Meghan, in context of ambition within the RF, must not really have understood the hierarchy. She seems to have believed that celebrity star power could change the institution, and that she and Harry could and should become the stars of the RF. it is no wonder that she became frustrated - either Harry did not properly prepare her for joining the family, or perhaps he bought into the idea. Maybe they both felt the same.

Either way though the end point is the same. They're 'free' now - so it's a shame neither can let go of the whinging about how 'hard' life was for them as part of the RF. Whilst still doing everything they can to cling on to the titles and trappings (police protection) that come with it.

Perhaps they (H&M) feel unable to let it rest until they explain their POV to their own satisfaction and get the reaction they want. Which could be forever.

There sure as heck is something going on here that isn’t just about money, but rather validation?

And I find the lack of editorial guidance (‘Archetypes’) puzzling.

I assumed it was Windsor.
Which spoils the nice rhyme in the document nota posted: "Meghan Markle with a Sparkle"

Posted too soon - tsk!

I was going to say that not much rhymes with Windsor.

Yes exactly - that's the bit I forgot to add. It's like they're determined that they should be fêted and adored, and seen by the world as these worthy global philanthropists. Each time they don't get the reaction they want, they try again with a new story of victim hood, a new dig at the RF to try and change perception of them.

But the harder they try, the more it backfires as it becomes apparent that things weren't as bad as they claim or they get caught in untruths and exaggeration. Which then picks away at their credibility.

They'd do far better to stop talking about themselves and get on with some genuine good works (not just PR photo ops) if they want to change perception of them.

Not sure what you are on about.

The poster - was it you? snidely called her Minnie Markle. Whatever that means.

People and the press refer to her as Meghan Markle - hence MM. This is how she is generally identified as we know. I said on another post that if she is called that I will also refer to Kate Middleton (KM).

If she gets called by her proper name or title, I'm sure people will find something that rhymes with that.

The poster - was it you? snidely called her Minnie Markle. Whatever that means.

Not me.

The poster - was it you? snidely called her Minnie Markle. Whatever that means.

If you dont know what it means, how can you say it's snide?

Apologies @LaMarschallin I asked a question rather than a direct accusation. The names sound the same. As I said, I don't particularly memorise names around here.

@MarshaMelrose maybe you can enlighten us, because she is not Minnie Markle last I checked. Because she has already been called 'moaning minnie'. So that sounds snarky to me.

I sometimes call M - Meghan, DoS or MM. I sometimes call C- Kate, DoC or KM. I don’t mean anything by it. Just what I’m thinking at the time. Usually I think I use their initials. But I’m curious now as to what I usually do but can’t be bothered to scroll through all my posts to work it out.

@notanotheroneagain
You can't say it's snide if you don't know what it means. It's like me calling Game of Thrones boring when I've never watched it. I mean, if you know what it means and you say it's snide, fair enough. But to make the judgement when you don't understand what's been said... It's pure conjectural.

As I said, I called it snide due to the previous line of 'moaning minnie'.

So what did you mean then ?

Whatever she's called she needs to get herself an education.

notanotheroneagain

No problem; easy mistake to make.

It's in easy language. You don't need me to explain what it means.

Here you go - I'll save you the bother of looking back.

Another poster.
I had high hopes for her podcast especially knowing the divide that is currently forming over womens rights (which is important to me) but nope it’s still her moaning 🙈😆

Me
She did say it was going to be the real her unfiltered. Perhaps that's who she really is. A bit of a moaning Minnie. Minnie Markle. 😁

Very true. It seems that when Meghan is disenchanted with someone or something she reinvents history. For example, her relationship with her father and all he did for her. Saying she worked her way through College and had no advantages, when that was patently untrue.

Firstly gushing about how wonderfully welcome the RF made her initially, then claiming they were perfectly horrid. She just reinvents the truth to suit her own narrative.

Going on and on about her feminist ideals when she made her living for years by using her sexuality to sell and promote things. That burger ad is just.. cringeworthy. Conveniently forgetting that her position in life is due solely to who she married.

I'm watching a doc about poor Diana. She's the diametric opposite of Diana. A complete fraud

I don’t have a problem with Meghan’s past gigs to make money and work towards getting her name known - that was the reality of the industry she was in, and which she was also progressing in. It wasn’t wasted effort.

I do side-eye however how she then says that she hadn’t come across the idea that ambitious women were viewed negatively until she married Harry. The acting industry is extraordinarily sexist and misogynist. She’d happily taken jobs as the “Suitcase Girl” on Deal or No Deal, and roles that were literally credited as “Hot Girl” (or worse), and involved her primarily wearing lingerie, because she was working in an industry that largely regards young women as eye candy. It seems unlikely in the extreme that she had never previously come across attitudes that she conceal her ambition, play grateful and complaisant and moderate her demands in that kind of environment.

Love how South Africans are refusing to be drawn into the MM hate campaign and are clapping back .

Don't know what the racist media thought they were doing. Like South Africans are not going to recognise racism and being used as pawns in this game.

Bad call British media.

Or, given it’s taken a few days for the counter-tweets to start, this the PR fight back against an organic twitter movement.

After all, there are many possible interpretations of what’s happening on an opaque platform like twitter….it pays to keep an open mind, I find.

I think she thought marrying Harry was her ticket out of that world and into one where she could call the shots all the time. Instead, she entered a rigid world of hierarchy and expectations of behaviour she hadn’t anticipated. That’s why she’s angry I believe. She can’t go back to the life she had before which was actually quite enjoyable and rewarding once she started working on Suits. She is in a strange world where she is neither one thing nor another. The money is coming from Harrys inheritances largely. She’s trying to use her titles to gain access to the world of celebrity, but she’s not a celebrity really. She has no real talents and seems to lack tact and empathy. Harry has nothing to offer but his name and associations with his family. Apart from the money, which won’t last long if they continue to live in mansions with lots of staff and take private jets everywhere.

The deals they have aren’t bringing them any real success or the adulation they crave. In five years no one will give a toss about them.