Meghan Markle Archetype podcast

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Meghan's long-awaited podcast has launched. Sorry if there's a thread about this already. Has anyone listened to it yet? Thoughts?

Great post

Or perhaps they are perfectly bright enough and, you know, are able to be concerned about more than one thing at once.
Who are you to judge others' levels of intelligence?

I worry when a person in the public eye tells lies that reflect badly on our head of state and when that person continues to do so I'm afraid for me that shows an untrustworthy person for whom a relationship with the truth does not exist and I find it repugnant.

Unquestionably MM has been the victim of misogyny as all the female consorts of the Royal family have upon joining, and in some cases before they joined. They've been set up with scams, horrendous press, had their privacy unwarrantedly breached and it needs to stop. The media instigate and are complicit in this. However when people like MM go on international platforms and lie about simple things that can be fact checked, they lose all credibility and consequently I don't believe a word they say. A bit like Boris Johnson who has a very loose relationship with the truth.

Like Meghan and the bridesmaids fitting! 😀

Nice of you to resort to insulting everyone’s intelligence. There’s a lot of ignorance about the presumed financial scandals, I will absolutely agree with that, but it’s not coming from me….

And same about housing unit, in my mind it means a self contained apartment within a bigger residence (a bit like a gite).
You don't like to use words with precision do you. The 'housing unit' phrase has offended people from South Africa. I've holidayed in a gite. It usually means a French holiday cottage. Nothing like rooms in a grand old building. Maybe I should have demanded this. Use of language is important

Language by definition is imprecise, unlike numbers. And different people use language in different ways.
I don’t find the term housing unit offensive, simply descriptive that it is more than a room and probably contains a kitchen and living room (a unit vs a room)
but fair enough, if in South Africa it equates to a run down place to stay, then it can be offensive. But I could imagine using that term to describe an aparthotel, for example or a gite, for someone who is not familiar with the French term. And I would mean no offence, just describing that it was a separate residential unit within a larger one.

And actually, I’ve stayed in gites that are quite grand, as divided up parts of old chateaus. And I’ve encountered ones that are pretty small and tired. So the word gite or housing unit or aparthotel or guest house or whatever is neither a positive nor negative term, it just conjures up images based on ones own experience. If that makes sense.

Language by definition is imprecise, unlike numbers. And different people use language in different ways.
www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/gite

I do think “Housing Unit” is an odd turn of phrase for being received as guests in a large mansion though. It does sound a bit sneery. And if you are doing a podcast, where all anyone has to go by is in fact the language you choose to use, then language is important. And it should be precise, because otherwise meaning is lost or words are misinterpreted as has been shown to be the case here.

I don't see why it was necessary to refer to it in any of those terms, to be honest.
As another poster has pointed out, it was the dismissive tone used about "this housing unit that they had had us staying in," which came across as passive aggressive. As if they had been forced into it.
And with respect, @Cococushion , whether you find the term inoffensive is immaterial.

Bottom line is, Meghan cocked up here. And I will be interested to see if she "owns" it.

The word ‘grandiose’ just popped into my head to describe Meghan, she probably thinks she’s ‘acting the part of a duchess/princess’

It's hard to square her complaints about the objectification of women with her performance in the Men's Health advert for a BBQ. Absolutely cringeworthy.

i haven’t heard MM’s podcast and have no idea what she meant.
i think that it is easy to take offence if you are predisposed not to like a person or are suspicious of their motives.
if I had to take a guess, she probably said housing unit to indicate that the host family were not in the immediate vicinity and that smoke/fire might not have been noticed easily.
but like I said, I have no experience of what it means in South Africa and if it is used in a specific way there

Yes. Well said. When children are acquiring language, they use one term like 'doggie' for many different animals because they don't know a lot of vocabulary. Later they learn specific words for specific animals. But it appears on here that gite, housing unit and apartment all mean the same thing. Similarly 'wedding', 'marriage', 'blessing' and 'wedding rehearsal'.

"Yes. Well said. When children are acquiring language, they use one term like 'doggie' for many different animals because they don't know a lot of vocabulary. Later they learn specific words for specific animals. But it appears on here that gite, housing unit and apartment all mean the same thing. Similarly 'wedding', 'marriage', 'blessing' and 'wedding rehearsal'."

Exactly. And for someone as articulate as Meghan, it seems odd that she doesn't appear to know the difference.

@Cococushion "but like I said, I have no experience of what it means in South Africa and if it is used in a specific way there"

How about listening to/reading what actual south Africans are saying then, which is that they're offended by the term.

@Readinginthesun 24/08:

I am just waiting for someone to come along and say that a housing unit in the US is the same as a mansion elsewhere the same as getting married 3 days before your wedding is the US way of saying a rehearsal

And lo ……..

Never ever have I heard a Gite/holiday cottage/apartment being described as a housing unit, don’t think it’s sounds very appealing on a holiday rental ad tbh.

Blue ridge, I honestly don’t care enough about what MM or anyone else does, as long as it is not illegal or immoral or both.

so I can’t be bothered to hear the podcasts or get outraged about minor language differences. if problem want to be offended, they will find anything to latch on. And that’s fine.

For example, one person was offended that I called their house a bungalow and they were offended and pointed out that it was not a bungalow but a single story dwelling 😀

whatever.

Sorry about the typos, I’m multitasking at the moment

Ah c’mon, housing unit is obviously a derogatory term. It certainly is in the US, and the South Africans are very offended. All these lame excuses just make it worse. Why can’t she just apologise for the offence her ill chosen words have caused?

Iris, she offended black and white South Africans in equal measure but hey, don’t let the facts get in the way.

This.

Painful and cringeworthy to see all these PP run about like headless chickens desperately trying to JADE - justify, argue, defend and explain - everything H&M do that is “off” - must be exhausting scrabbling around like that getting their knickers in a twist…..amusing to watch how far they will go though. I am sure many of the other posters are just goading for sport!