Omid has a new book coming out .

[Readinginthesun]

What new vitriol will he write ?

Is it not time to let Diana rest in peace ? What happened was tragic but repeatedly dragging it up is not going to bring her back .

Just watching it now. Thank you for sharing that link to the documentary.
One fact I have seen often distorted is whether Charles or Diana did a televised interview first. It was Charles. If you are going to condemn Diana for doing a televised interview you should also condemn Charles for doing the same first.

I know the BBC have said they will never broadcast the Diana interview again on BBC channels, but the footage is quite clearly being shown again as part of documentaries. I also expect a dramatisation of it will be shown on the next series of the Crown.

@Readinginthesun No one thinks it will bring Diana back. But it is 25 years ago. Anniversaries always bring renewed coverage. Diana attracted an incredible amount of public and press interest.
Personally I am interested in the attempts to rewrite history and how these will ultimately fail because of the internet.

There was enormous sympathy for Diana

There was some sympathy for Diana but it was not the main sentiment. Most people were horrified at the personal nature of the revelations. The interview also damaged Diana's image by confirming her long-suspected instability which had hitherto only been hinted at. Diana behaved irrationally on several occasions (throwing herself down the stairs, dropped phone calls and other stalking behaviour to wives of lovers), which became public. Nobody wants their parent to be remembered in this way.

DH and I sat watching the Diana interview open mouthed. It was another Oprah. Totally empathise now that we know what she was told by Bashir, but she was telling one unbelievable story after another - but they were all true. I think there was a fairly even split of people thinking 'good for her' and 'don't air your dirty laundry'. It certainly wasn't one sided support for her.

With regard to the earlier PC interview, the admission of his affair was actually downplayed, although it was obviously a massive deal. But that was all. There wasn't string after string of stories.

Diana regretted having done the interview in later years.

There was a huge impact on William because he was still at school and of 'that age', and we know that he suffered because of it. I have always felt very sorry for him due to this. I have no idea what H & M were thinking, to do exactly the same thing when they knew what the likely fallout will be with respect to their children.

With regard to the earlier PC interview, the admission of his affair was actually downplayed, although it was obviously a massive deal. But that was all. There wasn't string after string of stories

There was a difference in tone between the two interviews. Diana's (and H & M's) interviews have a shock jock quality to them whereas Charles' was more explanatory in nature.

Apples and oranges.

Charles and Diana had children together, anyone with half a brain knows you don't publicly slag off your child's parent. They both engaged in Parental Alienation which is considered a form of child abuse.

Harry and Meghan made critical comments about "The Firm" and the overall environment that the RF as a corporation and an entity exists in, and they mentioned that one unnamed person made a racist comment.

Not to mention William and Harry were school-aged and certainly old enough to understand what was going on, and having to deal with all their school friends knowing "your mum went on TV and slagged off your dad last night." Archie was only one when the Oprah interview aired, and Lili hadn't even been born yet. The idea that a child is going to be damaged because their parents (a unified front who clearly love and support each other) made critical comments about an unnamed distant relative when they were a baby is just ludicrous.

To say they're the same thing is clearly nonsense.

Any potential harm to Archie and Lili comes from the racist hate campaign against their family that the media waged for years, that the RF either encouraged or did nothing to stop, which resulted in household name presenters making racist jokes about Archie, social media and other websites being flooded with racist cartoons and racist hate speech about the children (eg tweets calling Archie "N***r monkey"), death threats against them and Neo Nazis being convicted and sent to prison for plotting to kill their dad.

Funny how people are so concerned about Lili being hurt by something that happened before she was even born yet never mention actual literal Neo Nazi terrorists being sent to prison because of hate towards her family.

i like that H&M have kept the kids out of the public eye.
It’s unfortunate they won’t have a relationship with their cousins and second cousins. I loved spending summers with mine.
There is a long time to go between the Oprah interview and when the kids are old enough to google. Unfortunately some of h&M’s statements have been shown to be false, but onwards and upwards to the future

What also strikes me is the language that was used then hasn't changed much.

Her being labeled an attention seeker, narcissist and someone outright saying she is almost a monster ?

The palace tried to smear Diana by leaking allegations that she bullied staff (of course, no staff ever came forward to say they'd been bullied, same as with Meghan).

The RF playbook never changes.

I never, ever heard or read anything about Diana bullying staff.

I also have never heard any bullying allegations against Diana

Can they change their playbook.

Gosh I don’t remember bullying claims against Diana at all.

I don’t remember bullying claims but certainly Diana did bully Tiggy the lies fed to her by Bashir would constitute bullying but she sadly wouldn’t have felt it to be bullying as she believed it to be true.

I assume those saying they've never heard of it are young (though it is funny how many posters "have never ever heard of" anything negative or critical towards the RF even if those things were extremely high profile, yet have heard every single negative tweet or obscure gossip blog post about Meghan).

The bullying allegation against Diana were absolutely all over the press at the time, and over the past year or so tons of newspapers and magazines have dug out old newspaper articles from the 1990s to compare the bullying allegations made against Diana with the same ones made about Meghan. Almost word for word the same.

Hell the tabloids even said the same thing about Kate, when she and Will were first married (or may have been when they first moved to Norfolk) there were tons of tabloids headlines speculating on the reasons so many Cambridge staff had left, quoting "anonymous insiders" as saying that Kate and Carole were nightmares to work for and ignored protocol, and claiming the reason so many staff left the Cambridge household was because of Kate's poor behaviour. The Daily Mail did a two-page spread on "the Cambridge staff exodus" accusing Kate and Carole of driving staff away, which was barely a word different from the same articles they later wrote about Meghan.

In reality, royal household staff move all the time because of the low pay and it's just the culture there, and of course a major change in household or location is going to result in staff changes. Royals change staff all the time, the Cambridges lost more staff that the Sussexes during the period the Sussexes were being slammed for losing staff. Just media manipulation.

The media decides who we're supposed to hate and who we're supposed to love, and acts accordingly.

I'm definitely old!!!

I can remember nothing about Diana being accused of bullying, although I totally get how her 'conversation' with Tiggy could have been misconstrued as such. Where have you read this?

News to me that Diana was accused of bullying. Instability, yes, but not bullying.

I'm the age Diana would be if she had lived so quite old! I remember she didn't like how close the boys were to Tiggy Legg-Bourke but don't remember anything about bullying. I also remember staff leaving but I thought it was more that Diana could be very mercurial as opposed to bullying. People seemed to be flavour of the month one minute and then frozen out the next but that was only from what was reported at the time.

People seemed to be flavour of the month one minute and then frozen out the next but that was only from what was reported at the time.

Whew, they said the same thing about Meghan in Robert Lacey's book/DM articles, the playbook never changes.

Im almost 60. I can barely remember what I did last week never mind something from over 25 years ago that I didn’t concern me.

The allegations that Diana bullied staff (and the similar allegations that Kate drove staff away through being a nightmare to work for) were all over the tabloids at the time, and there's been plenty of press coverage recently about the fact the claims made about Meghan are identical to the claims made about Diana.

One of the royals could murder someone in public, have the trial of the century, and be convicted to life in prison, and anytime anyone mentioned it there would be still be MNers going "LA LA NEVER HEARD OF IT LA LA".

do you have reputable sources for your allegations for Diana and Kate that specifically state that bullying was the reason for multiple staff leaving?