Omid has a new book coming out .

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What new vitriol will he write ?

Even in 2020 there were claims Diana bullied staff.

The Palace use claims of bullying staff and mental instability to undermine anyone they dislike. Always the same playbook. And never once any concrete details.
Only member of the Royal Family to be taken to an industrial tribunal that I know off over their treatment, was Charles over racism.

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1329800/princess-diana-news-brutal-outburst-royal-family-latest-spt

The Palace use claims of bullying staff and mental instability to undermine anyone they dislike

Why was Diana's mental instability a claim? It happened, didn't it? Multiple dropped phone calls to lovers' wives, throwing herself, while pregnant, down the stairs, and pushing her stepmother down them as well would seem to indicate something of that nature...

I don't remember any reports of Diana bullying staff during her lifetime.
The only things I've seen have all been written within the last few years and have been used by newspapers to compare Diana and Meghan.
So, as far as I can see, the Palace weren't using claims of bullying to undermine Diana. I'm not sure what point there would be in trying to undermine her many years after her death.

I don't remember any reports of Diana bullying staff during her lifetime.

But they did, factually, happen.

During Diana's lifetime there were tons of tabloid headlines and media coverage on the bullying allegations against her.

Just because you conveniently "don't remember" doesn't mean it didn't happen.

do you have reputable sources for your allegations for Diana and Kate that specifically state that bullying was the reason for multiple staff leaving?

You seem to misunderstand, I'm not claiming that Diana, Kate or Meghan bullied anyone, or that any of the three drove staff away due to their behaviour, like the tabloids claimed all three women did.

Simply that all three women were victim to exactly the same tabloid claims.

I am old enough to remember Diana's wedding, and the years up until she died, from an adult perspective. I remember the criticism she had directed to her when she was drifting around the Med with Dodi and well as the positive things such as her making sure 'the boys' saw something of a more normal life.

I recall that she dropped people instantly when they stepped out of favour, and was considered to be pretty manipulative.

There was never any mention of bullying that I can recall, but if you know differently @JemimaPuddlegoose, please point me in the right direction.

I do think your last paragraph shows a distinct lack of maturity.

It's a real shame that Meghan bashers/royal stans can't go two minutes without making personal attacks on other posters.

There were many newspaper stories and headlines at the time, accusing Diana of bullying. Nearly word for word the same as the tabloid stories about Meghan, and Kate had identical stories about driving staff away that did not use the word bullying but instead terms like "behaviour" and "demanding" or "refusal to respect protocol."

It's reasonable to point out the transparent tactics used by Meghan bashers (a well-organised group who have engaged in horrific tactics, such as running hate and harassment campaigns against any charity the Sussexes support, and directing targeted harassment against individuals, for example the recent Twitter campaign to contact the university administration to try to get a young girl kicked out her university course, for having the same name as the obviously much older person who started the PrinceOfPegging hashtag).

Claiming to have never heard of anything that might remotely put the RF in a negative light (no matter how well known or well reported) is a very common tactic, and clearly done with the agenda of implying that anyone mentioning it as a liar.

This tactic is always followed up with ever-more aggressive demands for proof (funnily enough Meghan bashers never provide proof for their outlandish claims, they simply vanish then name change), yet I can tell you exactly what happens if anyone does attempt to provide proof:
a: Sneery belittling putdowns along the lines of, "Oh a tabloid! I thought Jemima meant real proof, poor Jemima must be very stupid and gullible!"
b) Attempts to paint the other person as obsessive, "OMG you actually went and dug up old newspaper articles from 1992 giggle giggle patronising head tilt. What a weird, obsessive thing to do!"

It's incredibly manipulative.

Last year I pointed out that a poster had once used a particular racial slur (in a thread full of people saying "I've NEVER seen racism against Meghan, I don't remember any racism against her at al" - the old "WELL I'VE NEVER HEARD OF IT" tactic for the millionth time), which generated pages of rants about what an evil horrible liar I was and how dare I accuse someone. I posted a screencap of the post where the poster in question had used the racial slur. Did even one person admit I was right and had been proven right? Did even one person apologise for falsely calling me a liar? Did even one person express disapproval towards the poster who'd used a racial slur? Of course not! Just pages of "OMG Jemima actually screencapped someone's post, what a stalkerish thing to do, I am genuinely frightened of Jemima she's obviously unhinged and obsessive."

Tactics. Just tactics.

So @JemimaPuddlegoose , please point me in the direction of the articles your reference when you say 'During Diana's lifetime there were tons of tabloid headlines and media coverage on the bullying allegations against her'. As I said, I was a adult at that time, and recall no references to her bullying. I may be wrong - please enlighten me.

It would be helpful if you could try and answer the question without ranting, and offering nothing tangible, and using words such as 'manipulative', 'tactics', 'Meghan bashers' and 'Royal Stans'. This only damages a mature arguement.

Thank you in anticipation of your guidance.

Just because you conveniently "don't remember" doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I said I didn't remember and I still don't.
There was nothing "convenient" or tactical about it.
I was quite interested in reading about the royals at the time (I was in my teens at the time of the wedding) and, while I remember lots of other stories about Diana, I don't remember stories about bullying staff.

You say they "factually happened".
I'm saying I don't remember it.
That's not "bashing" anyone; it's a statement of fact.

I'm certainly not interested in getting involved in a row.

I also don’t remember any bullying allegations being attributed to Diana . Manipulative, mercurial etc yes, but bullying no .
Like PP I followed the whole Diana story as an adult .
What’a Royal stan ??

There were many newspaper stories and headlines at the time, accusing Diana of bullying

Are these still available?

There is a 'Diana Anti-Bullying Award', apparently. Is this what you mean?

Good grief Jemima are you seriously expecting people to remember things from 25+ years ago???

I remember Diana being criticised for getting politically involved with land mines (good for her I thought), her relationship with Dodi, her dropping of friends, but I don’t remember bullying claims.

So shoot me for not remembering something that happened 25+ years ago!

I and many other posters don’t recall bullying smears, yes to her being mentally unstable, paranoid etc, manipulative and a whole other host of smears.

I did a quick Google and can’t find anything but if I’m incorrect I will stand corrected.

It is important to note that we are looking at this through a historical lense and language and attitudes change. I don’t recall growing up ‘bullying’ being used as commonly as it is now. So whilst the inference is that she was a bully or difficult the term bully wouldn’t necessarily be the headline.

I remember a lot about things that happened 25+ years ago.
It's surprising that so many people, who were adults at the time, remember so many other stories but not the many stories and headlines that apparently appeared accusing Diana of bullying staff.

I'm sure @JemimaPuddlegoose will be able to point them out to us, when she returns.

I totally agree with you . Without minimising the effect of bullying , it does seem to be bandied around much more these days . I remember speaking to a member of staff about her appalling time keeping and she accused me of bullying her !

So whilst the inference is that she was a bully or difficult the term bully wouldn’t necessarily be the headline.

It is a fair point.
The articles about Diana would be unlikely to be "word for word" the same as those about Meghan in that case, I suppose.

I also very much agree about language changing, and I'm another who well remembers "demanding" and so on about Diana, though not "bullying"

As PPs have said, bullying is the word of the moment and will doubtless become something else in time - and when it does someone will insist that Meghan was called (insert new word) but perhaps not be able to find it

I'm not sure the semantics matter too much though; most of us understand the code for "difficult employer" no matter what they're called

I actually thought that these allegations mostly came out after Diana died - I don’t think her poor treatment of Tiggy Legge Bourke was public before that?

A lot of it came out of Patrick Jephson’s (her former private secretary’s) book, from memory - he certainly talked about her style of management of her staff, both the good and the bad bits. From memory the Royal Family actually tried to stop him publishing that. It didn’t come out til a few years after she had died.

Although her treatment of Tiggy was appalling, after learning how she was shown the receipt for a termination of Tiggy's baby (with Charles?) by Bashir, you can understand why she was so paranoid.

She seemed more of a blow hot/blow cold type of person to me, rather than a bully. I didn't work for her though!

Various accounts have said how Martin Bashir was pushing on an open door there - she allegedly felt very insecure due to the close relationship Tiggy had with her sons. She became completely paranoid about her - she write a letter to her lawyer saying that Prince Charles was planning to have her and Camilla killed in car crashes so he’d be free to marry Tiggy (he was already divorced by then, so could do what he wanted, if course).

One of Diana’s friends said that when Diana took William out for lunch in one of her brief stops in the UK the summer she died she was crying when he came to meet her as she was still upset that he’d invited Tiggy to his school sports day (poor William, if true!).

Your own little rags are reminding you that Diana was accused of bullying staff, and suddenly you don't believe them in this case. So now people must go back to a time before the internet to produce the exact evidence.
When have you ever produced evidence for what MM thinks ?

Go get the biography if you want your concrete written proof ?

Again no where in your posts states she was bullying it all alleges she was mentally unstable which contributed to these outbursts

And they describe a bullying behaviour .

‘Your own little rags’? What? Are you American?

I don't think that Charles is the sort to sack people. I think he's overly loyal if anything. So I do think that Diana was involved in getting rid of people. It was the start of her marriage where she believed things were going on between her husband and Camilla so I wonder if she thought they were enabling their relationship? And in her paranoia, or maybe it was true, she got rid of them to protect herself? Whatever, she was always friends with people and then suddenly cutting them off. She fell out with people, including her in family, for years before she'd suddenly get back in touch as if nothing had happened.
I'd never heard about her swearing at her staff which is dreadful. I admired her for things that she did but bullying is unacceptable, especially in when you're a member of the RF.so I don't care whether you're Diana or Meghan, that is horrible behaviour and both should be held to account.