Omid has a new book coming out .

[Readinginthesun]

What new vitriol will he write ?

He lived in the same area !! That’s it .
I live a few miles from the site of a high profile murder many years ago . Nothing to do with me .

There was no connection between Charles Spencer and Mark Thatcher - 'old boys' way or any other.

You really need to be more careful when taking a broad brush approach to flinging accusations around - these people can sue!

I do wonder where you are with your policing and threats when posters accuse the Sussex's of all sorts, from buying awards to taking money from Archewell - all issues that even the rags don't lie about.

Yes, I believe that Charles won his law case not to be associated with what happened, in the UK. Don't know if he did in SA, but it was blasted all over the place over there. In the end, they had nothing. Yes, there is a reason they randomly put his name in as living in the area - despite there being other more important people who lived in the area. Its not NY/Paris/London, where there are so many expats. In fact Constantia is not even the expat hotspot like SeaPoint, Camps Bay or other sea front places, so I can see why they raised eyebrows.

So, yeah I guess he would start with them than with some random on the internet who asked for the statement to be erased 5 minutes in due to lack of evidence.

But as @Readinginthesun put her similar case. They got it wrong. She went to an exclusive public school - known for connections , moved halfway around the world and happened to be living in the same random area as the murderers and associate. It happens !

Anyway, I've laboured the point.

Back to Diana, I wonder if anyone saw the HBO's The Princess ?

I have no idea what your last paragraph means however I am off on holiday ( to my Happy Place) in about an hour so don’t care !

Have a lovely holiday @Readinginthesun ! Hope you're taking some good books with you.

I agree, I didn’t buy into the mass grief at her death, avoided all news reports, but I find it so sad that she was in a stage of her life that appeared good and positive and never had the chance to live that out

I am not saying her life wasn’t good and positive- just realised that reads wrong, I meant good and positive in her personal life

I didn’t buy into the mass grief at (Diana's) death, avoided all news reports

Very sensible if you, Nishky - not that it was easy to avoid

I've often wondered what it would have been like had social media been common then ... I mean, can you imagine??

I walked in the Peak District rather than indulge in the voyeurism of her funeral…and yes, Twitter would have been dreadful….

But the Coup attempt was in 2004 and Charles had moved back to the UK after his divorce in 1997 and was living back at Althorp with his new wife where his son was born in 2003. How could he be questioned in SA? I remember all the Simon Mann and Mark Thatcher stuff, it was on the evening on a regular basis. So I'm pretty sure they'd have made a big thing about Diana's brother having been involved.
I'm happy to have a laugh about royal nonsense and I don't have any fondness for Charles Spencer - he seems to have an unsavoury reputation where his wives are concerned, but that's not an allegation that people should make without proof because some people on MN believe everything they read. However, I'm glad you had it deleted.

@MarshaMelrose
Charles never cut off his ties to SA, he was back and forth between the country - how do you think his daughter married one of his billionaire friends from there?

The papers view was about the funding and how it's all prepared -not overnight. Maggie was found to have sanctioned the thing. Some of what the papers had a gripe with was that they considered Charles to have scuppered off before it all hits the fan and was not questioned by the police.

Don't know how it was reported over here.
I was visiting my parents who were there for Amnesty/Human rights/ MSF and asked what he was doing there is it was rather weird, they knew nothing about him being there for charity etc.

I did however say I digress as my own dc are at schools where they dislike certain individuals and may find themselves across the world, randomly in the same part of town with them and may be linked with what they do - though I hope they would actively denounce their activity.

@notanotheroneagain

Sorry, but that's just a load of convoluted junk. You have no evidence he was involved in the plot, he was not even questioned by the police, never mind arrested or charged.

The papers view was about the funding and how it's all prepared -not overnight. Maggie was found to have sanctioned the thing. Some of what the papers had a gripe with was that they considered Charles to have scuppered off before it all hits the fan and was not questioned by the police.

According to you, he was returning to SA all the time, so why didn't the police question him on one of his many visits? Maybe because they couldn't find a link with him because he wasn't involved?
And by the way, Margaret Thatcher was in no position to sanction anything. She might or might not have said she approved of the plan. She had started with dementia by then so who knows what was going on there!

Don't know how it was reported over here.
I was visiting my parents who were there for Amnesty/Human rights/ MSF and asked what he was doing there is it was rather weird, they knew nothing about him being there for charity etc.

As for your parents not knowing why he was in SA, what's it got to do with them? Do they know everything that goes on with charity or business or relative visits?

I did however say I digress as my own dc are at schools where they dislike certain individuals and may find themselves across the world, randomly in the same part of town with them and may be linked with what they do - though I hope they would actively denounce their activity

Are you seriously suggesting that if you were in Manchester the night the Abedi bombed the AO Arena and you had attended Manchester College, 12 years begore him, you should do some sort of public denouncement? Wouldn't it just be taken for granted that you'd disapprove of the act?

Is this your evidence that he was involved in the plot to overthrow a govt? He went to Eton 11 /12 years after Mann and Thatcher; the newspapers were peeved that the police didn't question him because his family lived in SA; he didn't publically denounce the coup attempt; and your parents didn't know why he was in the country? That's pretty damning evidence there - it's a mystery how he escaped conviction. 🙄

Charles ‘ children were brought up in SA after he returned to Britain. I assume he went out there to visit them . No evidence whatsoever he was linked to any dodgy dealings.

He seems to be very happy with his wife now. His previous marriages all failed. He was affected by his upbringing as much as Diana . When your mother leaves you at a young age it causes a lot of trauma.

Just because your mother moves away when you're young, doesn't mean that when you're an adult in your 30s, you can treat women badly and cheat repeatedly on your wife.

No of course not!! Who said that?

Mark Thatcher went to Harrow, not Eton.

Of course he visited SA - his DC lived there!

His one daughter married an extremely wealthy guy, but he is unlikely to be one of Charles' friends, as Charles didn't even attend the wedding.

So you saw my deleted post within the 5 minutes of it, and to score points, bring it up 24hrs later, repeating wha't already been said.

Maggie did approve, but yes, her mind was not good at that point.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/14/thatcher-knew-of-equatorial-giunea-coup-attempt

My parents were at the forefront of international charity, especially from the UK, and would know who the famous people involved are, with which charity.

Manchester is not on the other side of the globe.

As I said, it's quite clear now that the media made their links but the police didn't see it that way.

They tried to paint Diana in a bad way, but Gen Z is being reminded how horrible everyone was towards her.

William may have got the BBC to shut her up, but I bet Netflix will air The Princess from HBO instead.

@notanotheroneagain

Where are you getting all these conspiracy theories 🤣

Next you’ll be telling us William had an ‘out of Africa’ 21sf party to secretly show his support 🤣🤣🤣🤣

So you saw my deleted post within the 5 minutes of it, and to score points, bring it up 24hrs later, repeating wha't already been said.

You addressed a post to me so I responded to it. And also, when you had your post deleted, I thought that you would stop then, but you didn't. You still implied that that there was something amiss with your implications that he's somehow linked with them, and your comments :.
They were all friends in an 'old boys' way.
Yes, I believe that Charles won his law case not to be associated with what happened, in the UK.

You were in the wrong. Let it go.

I asked if anyone has seen the HBO The Princesses.

For those who have not, it's here.

The difference this time is we don't have an 'expert' talking through it - but it does show footage of them and the press talking at that time. Unearthed footage you may be familiar with, and new as weelll.
Very compelling and haunting. You may want to get the hankies out, especially in the end.

www2.theshit.me/watch-movie/watch-the-princess-2022-free-86076.8859597

They tried to paint Diana in a bad way, but Gen Z is being reminded how horrible everyone was towards her

That interview did not paint Diana in a good light at all so I can very much understand William's viewpoint. When it first aired, the general consensus in the media and among the population, with a few exceptions, was of shock at the dirty laundry washing and of confirmation that Diana did indeed have 'issues'.

That is not true. There was enormous sympathy for Diana.

There was shock at Charles's interview, which took place a year before Diana's. Especially at Charles's public criticism of his parent's parenting. I do not think anyone was expecting Charles to publicly criticise the Queen and Philip.

It is good this has been released. There is so much work being put into rewriting history. This helps challenge that.