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Omid has a new book coming out .

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Readinginthesun · 30/07/2022 08:51

What new vitriol will he write ?

Omid has a new book coming out .
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SilverLiningPlaybook · 21/08/2022 20:06

If anything I think she was a stickler for good manners. Writing thank you notes, standing on ceremony. I haven’t read anything about her bullying staff. She didn’t like Tiggy because she felt Tiggy had an inappropriately close relationship with her sons.

notanotheroneagain · 21/08/2022 20:10

I don't think Diana bullied anyone.

SallyLockheart · 21/08/2022 20:20

Those are the actions of an unhappy and flawed person, nothing to suggest systematic bullying with “someone always in her sight”

Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 21/08/2022 20:23

notanotheroneagain · 21/08/2022 19:50

And they describe a bullying behaviour .

It is a different narrative the papers are pushing in that they attribute that MM is a bully/narcissist. ,controlling, always having someone in their sights etc.

Diana has been attributed to being mentally unwell/unstable and that is indicative of why she behaved that way rather than her being a mean bully.

Mental Health is still a massive taboo but was far more so when Diana was alive in fact the last asylum to close in England was only 12 years ago in 2010.

MarshaMelrose · 21/08/2022 20:53

Meghan might be a narcissist and Diana might have been mentally ill but surely the outcome for the person being bullied will have been the same? They were both in the wrong.

Serenster · 21/08/2022 21:22

Diana did get sued for wrongful dismissal by a staff member who left her employ - the case was entitled out of court. The CNN report has some numbers around staff turnover.

edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9703/05/britain.diana/

notanotheroneagain · 22/08/2022 07:16

Diana was said to agree to an out of court payment as she did not want her life picked apart. She left after some disagreements.
The weird thing is that, that lady wanted her job back, if Diana was bullying or unstable, she surely would not like to work for her.

The spin was then look how many people have left her employ.

Samcro · 22/08/2022 11:03

i remember and read a lot about her back in the day. can not remember her ever being accused of bring a bully.
but to be fair, back then people didn't call people bullies all the time, these days if someone disagrees with you on line for instance they are called a bully or a troll.

antelopevalley · 22/08/2022 21:56

She was accused of shouting at and being vile to her staff. There were lots and lots of articles about it.

ajandjjmum · 23/08/2022 07:09

I did ask @JemimaPuddlegoose for information on where to find the articles about Diana being a bully, but she's never got back on that. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction @antelopevalley , as having lived through that era, I can't recall any suggestion of her being a bully.

Diffcult, yes.

Readinginthesun · 23/08/2022 07:13

ajandjjmum · 23/08/2022 07:09

I did ask @JemimaPuddlegoose for information on where to find the articles about Diana being a bully, but she's never got back on that. Perhaps you can point me in the right direction @antelopevalley , as having lived through that era, I can't recall any suggestion of her being a bully.

Diffcult, yes.

i also asked but didn’t see a reply . I agree that language can change and I also agree that Diana was known to be manipulative and fickle but the specific allegation here is bullying and I don’t recall any such accusations/ headlines.

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SallyLockheart · 23/08/2022 07:21

I asked the same question and likewise no response. Ditto, lived through that era and have absolutely no recollection of Diana being accused of bullying staff and staff leaving in droves in rapid succession as is being implied here.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 23/08/2022 09:36

The bullying allegations were all over the tabloids at the time.

Easily found online.

Anyone claiming otherwise is either lying or has a bad memory.

JemimaPuddlegoose · 23/08/2022 09:37

Ditto the tabloid articles claiming Kate had driven staff away with her bad behaviour. Easily googled.

Readinginthesun · 23/08/2022 09:48

JemimaPuddlegoose · 23/08/2022 09:37

Ditto the tabloid articles claiming Kate had driven staff away with her bad behaviour. Easily googled.

I have looked but can’t find anything . Happy to stand corrected if you link some of these articles!

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SallyLockheart · 23/08/2022 09:58

if I google " did Diana bully staff" or "did Catherine bully staff" nothing comes up apart from very recent articles which try to link them to Meghan's alleged bullying of staff and look like a rewrite of history to justify Meghan's behaviour

Nothing from before Diana died and certainly nothing for Catherine.

reliable sources please

MaulPerton · 23/08/2022 10:25

SallyLockheart · 23/08/2022 09:58

if I google " did Diana bully staff" or "did Catherine bully staff" nothing comes up apart from very recent articles which try to link them to Meghan's alleged bullying of staff and look like a rewrite of history to justify Meghan's behaviour

Nothing from before Diana died and certainly nothing for Catherine.

reliable sources please

The only thing that comes up in this context is the Diana anti-bullying award. That's it. Nothing at all about Diana or Kate actually bullying.

MissMarpleRocks · 23/08/2022 11:22

JemimaPuddlegoose · 23/08/2022 09:36

The bullying allegations were all over the tabloids at the time.

Easily found online.

Anyone claiming otherwise is either lying or has a bad memory.

Please provide links to what you allege. I resent being called a liar for not remembering things from more than 25 years ago.

MissMarpleRocks · 23/08/2022 11:25

I accept that language may have changed however I do not remember Diana being a bully. Difficult yes. But not a bully.

Ohnonevermind · 23/08/2022 11:46

I don’t remember reading about it in the Irish times either which was my reading of choice. I didn’t read British papers, and most certainly not red tops I don’t like being called a liar either.

LaMarschallin · 23/08/2022 12:31

Ohnonevermind · 23/08/2022 11:46

I don’t remember reading about it in the Irish times either which was my reading of choice. I didn’t read British papers, and most certainly not red tops I don’t like being called a liar either.

It does seem quite impolite.

One might as well say that people claiming these articles were all over the tabloids at the time and are easily Googled, but are unable to provide any link are lying, or have misunderstood what they've read.

Ohnonevermind · 23/08/2022 14:10

There was no social media back in Diana’s time. You bought a paper, or watched the news. The most royal coverage was in a okay/hello. I didn’t buy them but they seemed deferential based on my memory (would have seen front covers) but I never bought them.
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JemimaPuddlegoose · 23/08/2022 14:28

When I googled and looked in online newspaper archives I found tons of stuff. The two-page spread in the Daily Mail about Kate and Carole driving staff away is easily found, as is the much more recent article about Kate firing her staffer while the staffer was on her honeymoon with quotes from "unnamed friend" saying the staffer found Kate bad to work for. All very easily found.

Sorry but I'm not your chivvy.

I've provided proof a hundred times and every single time it's been used to attack and belittle me, in a "OMG can you believe Jemima is such an obsessed nutcase she actually went to the bother of researching old articles!" way. Not once has anyone ever said "oh fair play, thanks for posting those links."

Why should I keep obeying your demands, when they are very obviously not being made in good faith?

I don't believe for a second that any of you would say "thanks for finding those links" because it's literally never happened once in four years. Not to mention I've asked Meghan bashers for proof of their allegations a million times, not once has anyone ever done so. Three times lately I've caught people making the most outrageous and easily disproven statements and they've just vanished the second I asked for proof. Of course people can say whatever hateful libellous claims they like about Meghan and there's never a pile-on demanding proof.

Obviously just asking to be goady and because you want to provoke a reaction.

But thanks for diverting the thread away from attacking a biracial man for daring to write non-negatively about a biracial woman.

SallyLockheart · 23/08/2022 14:37

So the answer is that there is still no reputable proof of these bullying claims. Unless you have a very different search engine to the rest of us - or refer to the American celebrity bitchy gossip site that another poster uses - then no body else can find articles to support your allegations

Serenster · 23/08/2022 15:00

Here’s the Daily Mail story about Sophie Agnew being made redundant after working at the Palace for seven years (NB the report says it was after her honeymoon, not during it, and the friend quoted said “She loved her job”).

So that’s one strike.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7565339/Duchess-Cambridges-aide-falls-victim-brothers-break-Kate-makes-redundant.html