Omid has a new book coming out .

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What new vitriol will he write ?

Meghan for many months denied contributing to the Omid Scovie book and then eventually admitted what had been pretty obvious from the start that she had actually contributed to it
Just wondering if the same charade will happen this time or if she will feel able to own her contributions now

If it does, there'll be absolutely no point at all in her denying it again. It might wash with those who'll attempt to twist even what's been proved factual, but for everyone else it's just laughable

Glad that someone reminded us that Diana did the same, though (as in using a conduit to get the info across) ... and the denial didn't work then either

This is the trouble with lying: people will rightly bear it in mind with anything else you say, even if that doesn't quite suit

No.

You are correct, I had been watching it on Netflix some months ago. It's not with Morton.

It is her own word however.
There are two documentaries as I remember of Diana talking. One was with her tutor /coach.

Here

She also spoke to Bashir - which William tried to gag the hell out of (despite it going on a bit about Tiggy, I remember reading later that it could be aired - guess the lawyers would have to trash that out.)

twitter.com/isexton/status/1553014192193605633

Ah, right.
Yes, that's more how I remember it.

I mean, that there wasn't a video showing Diana talking to Andrew Morton.

Thank you for the other random links; wasn't what I was talking about, but I'm sure someone will find them interesting.

'random' ? what's wrong with you.

She is explicitly describing how MH works and feels like ?

Nothing is "wrong" with me, thank you, notanotheroneagain, and I don't want to get into a discussion.
I just that I thought that what you said about there being a video of Diana and Andrew Morton was inaccurate.
And it seems it was.

I am assuming that when Meghan comments to the press via her friends this is a euphemism for via people on her payroll as I simply cannot imagine that actual friends spend their time spouting stuff on each other's behalf? Surely not, friends don't use each other as a mouthpiece!

So your 'gotcha' moment is that Diana did not speak to Morton , but to someone else ?

She said what she said. Clear as day .

I must say Diana comes across as a bit of a fruit loop in that video.

I thought how people see mental health issues had moved on. Sadly it seems I was wrong.

Yep,

Fruit Loops they are !🙄😂

So your 'gotcha' moment is that Diana did not speak to Morton , but to someone else ?

No. Not everyone posts here to score points or support one member of the RF over another.
I read these threads regularly but rarely post. I didn't remember any such video so asked you about it.
That's all. I wasn't asking about Diana's mental health or, indeed, expressing any interest beyond wondering if you were right about that one thing.

I don’t mean she has mental health issues. I think she comes across as very immature and rather sad. I’ve seen an awful lot of documentaries interviews etc but somehow this one is different.

She also spoke to Bashir - which William tried to gag the hell out of (despite it going on a bit about Tiggy, I remember reading later that it could be aired - guess the lawyers would have to trash that out.)

I think William was right to try and do that. What Bashir did to Diana was disgusting. He preyed on all her fears and paranoia by feeding her a pack of lies. It's telling that her close family, her brother, her son, were telling her that it was all untrue but she was so far down the rabbit hole, she couldn't see it. The BBC have had to apologise and pay compensation over both Bashir's and their own behaviour. How people can think its a funny and jolly wheeze to broadcast this knowing what we all know now, is beyond me?

This very paranoia led to her refusing royal protection after her divorce, which very well might have contributed to her death.
This is a light-hearted thread about people, RF and HAM, whose lives of privilege and wealth is barely touched by this. So it's not really not in the spirit of things to drag a dead woman and her mental health into the thread and show support over that documentary.

But what Diana had said to Bashir she had said to others beforehand.
It is not up to William to decide what his mum gets to say.
Diana always accused the Royal Family of trying to silence her. It has never stopped.

But what Diana had said to Bashir she had said to others beforehand.
It is not up to William to decide what his mum gets to say.
Diana always accused the Royal Family of trying to silence her. It has never stopped.

There's a difference. She was a paranoid person by nature and she had her homes searched for bugs. But that was her own fears and not founded. What Bashir did was take those worries and confirm her worse to her. So he claimed Charles had given William a bugged watch. That fit in with her fears and it bedded in her paranoia even worse. Can you not see the difference between living with your own anxieties and being given (faked) proof to confirm them?

It must be very painful for William to see his mother talking so openly about private matters, knowing that she was fired up by lies. And giving publicity to a Bashir, an disgusting manipulator and liar. I think he has every right to try and get it withdrawn from re-publication. You would do the same if say, one if your children had been manipulated into saying awful things and they subsequently died.

Diana wasn't silenced, though. She wrote a book and did an interview to tell her truth. Because her truth, as we now know from multiple documentaries was not the real truth. After all her truth was that she was constantly bring spied on but that was proven, again and again, to be a total fallacy.

So what you think holds more weight that what Williams thinks. I think any sensible person would acknowledge that both William and Harry would do anything in their power to protect their mother's reputation. You really have a high opinion of yourself @antelopevalley !

William had no right to shut down Diana. What he did was gaslighting.

It would have been enough for him to just cut off the Tiggy part (which she refers to minimal), but not scrap the whole thing.

This is William being a firm man and another cover up to pave Camilla's way.

He had more right than you. Gaslighting?!!! Grow up.

He had no right at all to silence her.

William had no right to shut down Diana. What he did was gaslighting.

Sorry, I don't know what you mean by gaslighting in this context. Can you explain?

He's not silencing her. She didn't know that what Bashir had told her were lies. So when she spoke, she did so in the belief that she had evidence that she was being bugged and spied on. But that was simply not true and if she'd known the truth she might very well never have given that interview.
Also, I should think William doesn't want Bashir to get any publicity because he's anathma to him.

It's disgusting how much William attacks and tries to discredit and silence his own mother.

Diana was always going to do an interview about the fact Charles cheated on her and about the problems in their marriage. If Bashir hadn't lied then maybe she would still have gone with him or maybe she would have gone with someone else. But she still would have done it. She was desperately looking for an opportunity to share her side and have a voice, for years.

I find the language being used around this quite manipulative and it feels like people with an agenda are trying to create their own narrative in the hopes people who don't remember the details will get confused. Bashir lied about Tiggy, not Camilla. The actual interview was about Camilla. Did Diana even mention Tiggy in the interview? Diana didn't hold back so if she took the claims about Tiggy seriously you'd have thought she'd have mentioned it.

This has nothing to do with concerns for Diana, it has to do with propping up Charles and the monarchy. Nothing and no one is allowed to dent the image of the monarch or heirs, and if they do then the royal machinery rolls into action to attack and defeat them by any means necessary.

It's disgusting how much William attacks and tries to discredit and silence his own mother.

Can you give examples of all these attacks on Diana?

She didn't know that what Bashir had told her were lies. So when she spoke, she did so in the belief that she had evidence that she was being bugged and spied on

You're bringing common sense into it now, Marsha, and it's not always wise to do that on threads like this

The really amusing thing is that, had Meghan been tricked by a skunk like Bashir, the howls of "It shouldn't be shown" would probably be heard from here to kingdom come

Fortunately though - and I'll give her this - Meghan's experience means that she has a better handle on how these things work, and may well never have fallen for it