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Camilla not the Royal Harry said made racist comments

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antelopevalley · 25/07/2022 14:08

After the revelation that Camilla allegedly said it would be funny if Harry and Meghan's baby had a "ginger afro", one "highly placed source told Page Six: “Camilla is not racist — I can tell you categorically she is not the royal who Harry and Meghan were talking about.”"

pagesix.com/2022/07/22/camilla-parker-bowles-is-not-the-racist-royal-insiders-say/

If true this is worse. It would mean that Camilla says racist jokes, but that another member of the Royal Family had said more damning racist remarks.

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antelopevalley · 28/07/2022 15:32

@unname There are lots of very questionable photos and clips of both Catherine and William that could be evidence of racism. One may be a mistake or another issue. But as the add up I wonder how long people will continue excusing them?

And it is not to do with being members of the Royal Family. Charles has done many more engagements in his lifetime and does not attract these accusations.

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unname · 28/07/2022 15:47

antelopevalley · 28/07/2022 15:29

You said Catherine seemed comfortable with the POC in the photo. Your point I assume being she is not racist as she looked comfortable in that photo. And the clip where she looked uncomfortable and moved away had nothing to do with the Minister being black.

I am disagreeing with you. That is all.

That makes more sense and I understand your position - you believe this interaction is indicative of racism.

I just do not agree that anyone can know that from this one interaction. I also think you are looking for evidence to support your conclusion.

antelopevalley · 28/07/2022 15:52

As I said, I agree one video is not evidence of racism. It is the many examples that point to that.

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derxa · 28/07/2022 16:03

antelopevalley · 28/07/2022 15:32

@unname There are lots of very questionable photos and clips of both Catherine and William that could be evidence of racism. One may be a mistake or another issue. But as the add up I wonder how long people will continue excusing them?

And it is not to do with being members of the Royal Family. Charles has done many more engagements in his lifetime and does not attract these accusations.

Charles must be in despair at having produced two such awful racist children.

IrisVersicolor · 28/07/2022 18:23

Unless he’s part of the problem. Cf the tribunal at Highgrove above.

PurpleWisteria · 28/07/2022 18:28

Just a thought -

If there is a video showing her recoiling - and I have yet to see one - perhaps it was being touched by a strange man of whatever colour is the issue. I wouldn't like to be touched by a man I hardly know - kids are different. I would step back from a stranger touching me, for sure.

derxa · 28/07/2022 18:32

IrisVersicolor · 28/07/2022 18:23

Unless he’s part of the problem. Cf the tribunal at Highgrove above.

That could be it. I'm sure Diana bears some responsibility too.

IrisVersicolor · 28/07/2022 18:46

Diana bears responsibility for an apparently racist culture at Highgrove nearly 10 years after she separated from Charles and 4 years after her death? Really?

Diana who dated Hasnat Khan and Dodi Al Fayed?

derxa · 28/07/2022 18:58

IrisVersicolor · 28/07/2022 18:46

Diana bears responsibility for an apparently racist culture at Highgrove nearly 10 years after she separated from Charles and 4 years after her death? Really?

Diana who dated Hasnat Khan and Dodi Al Fayed?

Well i believe Diana had more of an influence over her sons than Charles who barely saw them.

IrisVersicolor · 28/07/2022 19:05

Barely saw them? They were 12 + 15 when she died. Then they lived with Charles.

Lolliesareonme · 28/07/2022 19:32

Thanks @unname for posting the video (bonus points for a longer version than I saw). It’s another perspective again with the extra seconds. I still don’t think there is any ‘recoiling’. I think that she isn’t sure why she’s supposed to be doing. She looks down and seems to step over something (maybe pitch markings)? The lady next to Olivia Grange - who is she, does anyone know?

Another lady comes into view from the left, and is pointed away, for a reason we don’t know, then a player comes into view. Maybe what I see as Catherines apprehension about someone being dragged further onto playing field is another persons racism? The lady pointed away could have been a protestor, and the player in view meant she was closer to the action than I would like to be.

@Roussette thank you too for showing me how to post a Twitter link 😀

@antelopevalley The midwife that delivered Charlotte was black (so pre any racism claims against the Cambridges) unless you are aware of any? Would a racist do that when they have the pick of whoever they want?

ajandjjmum · 28/07/2022 19:46

@antelopevalley 'In practice, there is no issue with a fence of that height. But it does not prove they are comfortable around black people.'

Nor does it prove that they are uncomfortable around black people.

Runmybathforme · 28/07/2022 19:48

It sounds like you believe what you read in the media. No one knows what went on , if anything.

unname · 28/07/2022 20:23

Runmybathforme · 28/07/2022 19:48

It sounds like you believe what you read in the media. No one knows what went on , if anything.

Believes and actually gathers evidence to support a pre-conceived conclusion, while ignoring or dismissing any evidence against that conclusion.

It is exercising confirmation bias while accusing others of lacking critical thinking skills.

StormzyinaTCup · 28/07/2022 20:41

Diana who dated Hasnat Khan and Dodi Al Fayed?

So this ^ equals 'Diana clearly not a racist' but if you mention Prince Charles and Sheila Ferguson it's met with cries of 'that doesn't mean he can't be a racist'. Is it nothing to do with race and everything to do with not liking the person and racism is a convenient stick to beat someone with?

queenofarles · 28/07/2022 20:45

It shows Catherine physically stepping back and moving her arm away to avoid the black Jamaican Minister touching her. the same black woman who was sitting right next to Catherine for a long period of time and chatting with?

IrisVersicolor · 28/07/2022 21:03

StormzyinaTCup · 28/07/2022 20:41

Diana who dated Hasnat Khan and Dodi Al Fayed?

So this ^ equals 'Diana clearly not a racist' but if you mention Prince Charles and Sheila Ferguson it's met with cries of 'that doesn't mean he can't be a racist'. Is it nothing to do with race and everything to do with not liking the person and racism is a convenient stick to beat someone with?

When have I ‘cried’ this exactly?

StormzyinaTCup · 28/07/2022 21:19

I didn't specifically mention you.

But it's a common theme on these type of threads, 'Diana not a racist because of who she dated' Prince Harry (the only proven racist I may add) is obviously no longer racist and we should all forgive him for his past indiscretions 🤦‍♀️but Prince Charles is clearly racist and as for PW and KM where shall we start? (clue, some evidence would be a good start). My mind never fails to be boggled at the stretches people go to in order to make something stick. The media love feeding it though.

IrisVersicolor · 28/07/2022 22:15

Exactly - I’ve never said any such thing. Nor has anyone else. And now you’re inventing threads.

StormzyinaTCup · 28/07/2022 22:28

I think you will find that it is not a figment of my imagination. If I had the time and the inclination I’d find them for you but I don’t.

I actually mentioned PC/SF myself on a thread a way back and was told in no uncertain terms that this doesn’t mean someone can’t be a racist, this may be true but let’s apply this across the board and not make exceptions for certain people because it fits a certain narrative. I’m all for a factual discussion on racism but not interested in creating racism where there isn’t any and I will call out hypocrisy and double standards where I believe I see it.

derxa · 28/07/2022 22:36

StormzyinaTCup · 28/07/2022 21:19

I didn't specifically mention you.

But it's a common theme on these type of threads, 'Diana not a racist because of who she dated' Prince Harry (the only proven racist I may add) is obviously no longer racist and we should all forgive him for his past indiscretions 🤦‍♀️but Prince Charles is clearly racist and as for PW and KM where shall we start? (clue, some evidence would be a good start). My mind never fails to be boggled at the stretches people go to in order to make something stick. The media love feeding it though.

Exactly

rosewater20 · 28/07/2022 23:01

Lolliesareonme · 28/07/2022 19:32

Thanks @unname for posting the video (bonus points for a longer version than I saw). It’s another perspective again with the extra seconds. I still don’t think there is any ‘recoiling’. I think that she isn’t sure why she’s supposed to be doing. She looks down and seems to step over something (maybe pitch markings)? The lady next to Olivia Grange - who is she, does anyone know?

Another lady comes into view from the left, and is pointed away, for a reason we don’t know, then a player comes into view. Maybe what I see as Catherines apprehension about someone being dragged further onto playing field is another persons racism? The lady pointed away could have been a protestor, and the player in view meant she was closer to the action than I would like to be.

@Roussette thank you too for showing me how to post a Twitter link 😀

@antelopevalley The midwife that delivered Charlotte was black (so pre any racism claims against the Cambridges) unless you are aware of any? Would a racist do that when they have the pick of whoever they want?

Just googled the midwife who delivered Charlotte and there is a video of Catherine stopping and giving her a hug and she seems very happy to see her.

Dotcheck · 28/07/2022 23:07

Do we really have to cancel 17c artists?

Perhaps Kate and William like the damn painting, but also ( in some extraordinary twist of mental agility) ALSO understand that the world was a different place then ( IN THE 17c) and that their appreciation does not mean they embrace 17c values.

It’s like saying if you like Wagner, you are anti- Semitic or if you own or ever have owned a Volkswagen then you are an ardent supporter of Hitler’s policies.

And Kate ‘cringing from a black woman’ what utter bollocks. I mean she may have been. Or she may have had a leg cramp, or the woman may have had bad breath- it was a microsecond in time. You cannot possibly assume someone’s value systems based on a brief facial expression.

Sheesh

antelopevalley · 28/07/2022 23:16

PurpleWisteria · 28/07/2022 18:28

Just a thought -

If there is a video showing her recoiling - and I have yet to see one - perhaps it was being touched by a strange man of whatever colour is the issue. I wouldn't like to be touched by a man I hardly know - kids are different. I would step back from a stranger touching me, for sure.

It is a woman and I posted the link already.

twitter.com/i/status/1506489794968559620

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unname · 28/07/2022 23:29

Why are you posting the shorter video? And one from an account that drew the same conclusion you did?