Harry's speech at the UN

[KatharineofAragon]

Just what is going on? Why does Harry think he is qualified to pronounce on various political matters in another country? Why is he invited and who cares what he thinks? Am I the only one thinking he is behaving like a total numpty?

Harry and Meghan still use their royal titles to do public work. It is legitimate to scrutinise it.

If they did take a private jet it's pretty hypocritical.

Your comment says way more about you than anyone else.

I thought he looked a bit peaky and tired. As if he he’d had a cold or something.

As you often say though- anyone can claim to be anything in Mumsnet. Why should we believe your ‘successful career with no exams’. You question everyone else’s comments about their knowledge

Thanks for that. Call me a liar why don't you. I find what you are saying really upsetting actually.

I have NEVER EVER not even once said 'anyone can claim to be anything on Mumsnet'. I have had reason to, many a time, but I never have.

Are you the Nishky who once accused me of saying I'd never been on Twitter, and then you had to backtrack because you muddled me up with someone else, after having laid into me bigtime?

Why are you calling me a liar? I've been on MN forever and I rarely put anything about my private life. I have revealed something personal and difficult about my schooling and you presume I lie. 😥

In case you miss the above @Nishky32

Yes and I apologised and you accepted my apology.

then when I mentioned something about my professional life you said ‘oh anyone can claim to be anything on here’ - it is hurtful

Why do these threads always have to get so nasty? It’s not necessary. People are allowed an opinion on two people to put themselves on a pedestal and preach to all and sundry with no qualifications to do so and no real knowledge or understanding. They are totally hypocritical and always out for their own gain.

Passive aggressiveness and spiteful comments aren’t necessary.

There's a poster on here, who, over years has claimed to be a Tax Advisor, a financial expert, a Green Credentials specialist, a Scientist, a Lawyer who has indepth knowledge of US legal matters, a Historian and more.

@Nishky32 Not ONCE have I questioned this poster's knowledge despite it being impossible with their claim to be experts in all these fields. I just let them get on with it.

And while you're at it, find me the post where I said that to you. Because yet again I imagine you are muddling me up with someone else. I have never said that to you. I recognise your name and I purposely am extremely careful what I say because I don't want a repeat of your false accusation again. I was really upset by that and I'm upset now.

Why do you do this? If you find something someone said to you hurtful, why do it to someone else?

I'm coming off this thread. Being called a liar about something very personal to me is really upsetting.

@KatharineofAragon you started the thread, how did you think it would go?
vile comments about Harrys academic record, I mean really who gives a fuck what exams a now nearly 40 year old took.

That he wandered well off-piste into US domestic politics shows, I think, firm intention never to return to Royal duties (not that anyone would really expect that anyhow). Because its another burning of the bridges.

He's not a particularly heavyweight speaker, and I don't think this speech was interesting enough to start to turn that around. He's capable of performing to large audiences, but I don't think he holds them that well, because he has neither power nor influence (trying to recreate the latter, but until Archewell really gets going there's a credibility gap)

Probably invited because he's easier to access now that the actual Royal family. Also desperate for cash.

@Roussette I suspect the relevant thread was deleted.

That is EXACTLY what you said last time.

When you accused me of saying something I HADN'T said. Despite me pleasantly saying I have never said this, you kept on and on and on insisting I had. Now you are doing it again. I can only presume you have it in for me.

This is a repeat of that time. You said 'I expect the thread has been deleted'. Then you came back and said... I am really sorry I got the wrong person.

I accepted your apology, offered you a cup of tea, I was very nice to you despite the unwarranted accusations, and we were fine together.

Now you're doing it again.

What I said on this thread about my schooling and then career is true.

Just go away and leave me alone.

The question is why is a man with no credentials, knowledge or experience of politics giving political speeches in a foreign country? That’s why his qualifications are being discussed.

And as I said... contact the Nelson Mandela Foundation and ask them. It's obviously bothering you greatly. I'm sure they'll reply with why.

I agree.

They get nasty because they start off nasty. You claim to be all outraged and huffy over this guy as if you've only just noticed. But you know fine well that there are loads of people here who love to have a pop at H&m on mumsnet. So you then settle in for the inevitable goady pile on and have a good old laugh together about how thick/hypocritical/unsuccessful they are.

It's like watching teenage girls at school breaktime. You know fine well Harry and Meghan can't respond so you all keep going because the performative outrage makes you feel good.

Before you say that I'm just a mad fan, I'm not actually. I think there is plenty you can criticise them for. I just don't like people laying into others on the Internet who can't defend themselves. It doesn't set a nice tone.

So it’s not on to discuss any public figures on a public forum then? Not a pile on . It’s a discussion.

From Twitter :

"Mandela 20 + yrs in prison on release , happiest man alive .

…
Harry 20 + years of wealth , opulence , money , privilege , marriage , children, most miserable man alive."

Yeah... posters calling him thick, stupid, his wife a schemer, stupid, a conceited spoilt brat and so on...
Nothing to see here folks, not a pile on, just a discussion

Yeah right, got you

I guess because thats your intent from the start? You just dont like it when everyone doesn't play along with the bitching?

I clicked on this thread because I had read nearly all of mumsnet while not sleeping last night and wish I hadn"t what a nasty little subset of mumsnet!

And as you can see, some posters will not get over it. what he does with his life has nothing whatsoever to do with them.

You just dont like it when everyone doesn't play along with the bitching?

^^ This. And those that don't play along and lay into the two of them are called bitter and nasty.

You couldn't make it up!

Pot, kettle, black!