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Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle

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SmileyFaces12 · 13/07/2022 10:49

It's out next week, titled 'Revenge'. I've ordered it already!

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Nishky32 · 18/07/2022 17:21

Oh he has already done the speech. Perhaps just nerves, although he is not a novice!

derxa · 18/07/2022 17:23

MaulPerton · 18/07/2022 12:20

why she didn’t run for the hills on discovering what Prince Harry was really like is a mystery….

It is a mystery, isn't it?

Truly a mystery

MaulPerton · 18/07/2022 17:23

Nishky32 · 18/07/2022 17:19

I am sure I heard that there was some sort of announcement today and there is a photo on Twitter of Prince Harry looking very tense.

Is that because nobody came to his talk?

P205 · 18/07/2022 17:23

What I mean is that the article never mentions who she is other than calling her a royal expert and doesn't give any kind of explanation as to why the royal expert believes these things, but they can't sue because it's just an opinion and nothing is stated as fact. That's how a lot of these articles get published, I guess.

Nishky32 · 18/07/2022 17:27

MaulPerton · 18/07/2022 17:23

Is that because nobody came to his talk?

It was quite empty- maybe it is being watched remotely via zoom or some such

HinchcliffeandMurgatroyd · 18/07/2022 18:16

Serenster · 18/07/2022 09:16

Another in the “obviously hasn’t read it” camp but still feels the need to come on here (for the first time, you note!) to point out alleged errors that aren’t.

Bower knows very well that Meghan’s first advertisement for Reitman’s was in 2015, before she meant Harry. That would be why when he tells the story of what happened in the shooting of her second commercial for them, in 2016, he starts it like this:

Do some of you have advance (kindle) copies?

Serenster · 18/07/2022 18:26

I haven’t - Ive only read the extracts being serialised in the Times currently. My screenshot was from that.

notanotheroneagain · 18/07/2022 18:32

Is that because nobody came to his talk?

Where did you get this?
It was a Nelson Mandela Day tribute 🙄at the UN, not TEDtalk !

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Jackiewoo · 18/07/2022 18:38

why was my post deleted? Harry IS famously thick his own mum said so, the couple ARE known for being litigious and I do think Bower will stick to facts and have receipts to back them up. What's wrong with that?

Serenster · 18/07/2022 18:51

Where did you get this?

I think the poster was referring to pictures like this of Harry’s address. It’s the holidays - the meeting was not well-attended

(It’s held today because they picked Nelson Mandela’s birthday as the date for the commemoration day. It’s a shame they didn’t consider picking a different date when the UN is actually in session, like the date he was elected as SA president for example, which would mean an event like this has a higher profile).

Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
Tom Bower's book on Meghan Markle
Maireas · 18/07/2022 18:55

In what capacity was he addressing the UN? Was it because of his late mother?.

notanotheroneagain · 18/07/2022 18:55

The poster is pretending that people left 'his talk'. Everyone had the same audience. Not anyone can just walk in. It's full of VVIPs.

NM's birthday, is his birthday. They have been respectful to that, not the whole world has summer holidays, even in SA it's winter currently. This will be broadcast, it's not a popularity contest, Nelson Mandela has legend status anyway.

Maireas · 18/07/2022 18:57

There's still tremendous kudos to addressing the UN, to be fair. I'm just wondering how those decisions are made?

MaulPerton · 18/07/2022 19:02

notanotheroneagain · 18/07/2022 18:55

The poster is pretending that people left 'his talk'. Everyone had the same audience. Not anyone can just walk in. It's full of VVIPs.

NM's birthday, is his birthday. They have been respectful to that, not the whole world has summer holidays, even in SA it's winter currently. This will be broadcast, it's not a popularity contest, Nelson Mandela has legend status anyway.

I didn't say that people left his talk. I said that people didn't attend in the first place.

The optics look bad for H, however they came about, because a picture speaks a thousand words.

Serenster · 18/07/2022 19:09

Maireas · 18/07/2022 18:57

There's still tremendous kudos to addressing the UN, to be fair. I'm just wondering how those decisions are made?

I think it’s been speculated he was asked to speak by the South African delegation to the UN? The Deputy Secretary General, the President of the General Assembly and Prince Harry all spoke.

He spoke in his speech about treasuring a photo he has of his mother and Nelson Mandela, so their relationship doubtless played a part of the invitation, though Harry himself has also visited South Africa on official visits.

notanotheroneagain · 18/07/2022 19:09

And if you are nefarious, you will misrepresent that picture in a negative way. No one in their right mind will think UN delegation to a NM event got up and left out of the blue.

notanotheroneagain · 18/07/2022 19:11

Not speculation. The NM Foundation made an announcement that they invited him.

The president acknowledged both H&M's invitation and contribution, among other speakers. It's the first thing he did in his speech.

Maireas · 18/07/2022 19:28

Thanks, @Serenster - of course both he and his late mother had connections there. I saw that picture of Diana with Mandela.

MaulPerton · 18/07/2022 19:44

notanotheroneagain · 18/07/2022 19:09

And if you are nefarious, you will misrepresent that picture in a negative way. No one in their right mind will think UN delegation to a NM event got up and left out of the blue.

I didn't say that they got up and left out of the blue. I said that they didn't attend in the first place. Very few people attended H's talk and we can pretend that it's because heat, leaves on the line, wrong kind of snow, holidays, ill child, private jet delays, not enough expenses, if you like. If people want to attend, they attend.

There is, however, a bigger issue building for poor H. Quite a few have taken a dislike to this particular politicised appearance. Let’s see how it develops.

notanotheroneagain · 18/07/2022 19:53

I am confused, are you taking a pop at Nelson Mandela and the delegation as well now or what?

CathyorClaire · 18/07/2022 21:07

Some people don't mind forgiving someone who has changed

I'd find the vaunted change a bit more convincing if a full explanation of the Red Kite incident at Sandringham and an apology for the disgraceful shooting of a water buffalo were forthcoming.

Still waiting...

MaulPerton · 18/07/2022 21:13

notanotheroneagain · 18/07/2022 19:53

I am confused, are you taking a pop at Nelson Mandela and the delegation as well now or what?

Just watching H, for now, make speeches that nobody wants to listen to, not even the UN. I wonder where next for him?

Readinginthesun · 18/07/2022 21:18

Apparently Tom Bower spent 2 days with Thomas Markle .
Surely M and H will now sue ?

Roussette · 18/07/2022 21:34

CathyorClaire · 18/07/2022 21:07

Some people don't mind forgiving someone who has changed

I'd find the vaunted change a bit more convincing if a full explanation of the Red Kite incident at Sandringham and an apology for the disgraceful shooting of a water buffalo were forthcoming.

Still waiting...

Maybe ask William the same, and even Prince George who shoots too. We pay for them after all.

I find the endless criticism of Harry hilarious, when posters don't even look close to home and what the RF do.

MaulPerton · 18/07/2022 21:47

Roussette · 18/07/2022 21:34

Maybe ask William the same, and even Prince George who shoots too. We pay for them after all.

I find the endless criticism of Harry hilarious, when posters don't even look close to home and what the RF do.

That's because Harry is no longer batting for our team while the others, however little or badly, are. Harry and wife took the titles and disappeared instead of trying to help the UK stay afloat. And you wonder why they are disliked?

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