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Harry and Meghan 'are invited to appear on Buckingham Palace balcony at Queen's Platinum Jubilee'

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NarcissasMumintheDoghouse · 19/04/2022 08:22

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10729859/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-invited-make-balcony-appearance-Jubilee.html

No source cited, so could just be made up news.

How do you all feel about this? Is it another refusing-to-fly-the-flag-at-half-mast-for-Diana misreading of the public mood? Does anybody actually care? And, if not, what does that signify?

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mathanxiety · 21/04/2022 23:46

"This week, the Globe reports...

I am crying with laughter.

Wiping my eyes.

Picking myself up off the floor.

The Globe
The Globe...
😂😂😂

@Swayingpalmtrees
It's a supermarket rag <ROFL>

If you want scintillating and totally truthy stories about the Obamas divorcing, alien sightings in the suburbs, Camilla boiling bunnies, and Bill Clinton's deathbed divorce and remarriage, the Globe is the rag for you.

mathanxiety · 21/04/2022 23:54

And I see the bottom of the barrel dredging continues with the Daily Record.

😂

mathanxiety · 22/04/2022 00:22

The Yorks have actual proper salaried jobs, pay bills and are not bankrolled by the tax payer.

The hilarity continues.

Andrew is a professional moocher.
www.bbc.com/news/uk-60401663
His financial affairs, and how he has sustained his lifestyle, has been a long-running story.
In 2007, Prince Andrew sold his Sunninghill Park home for £15m - £3m more than the asking price - to Timor Kulibayev, the son-in-law of the then-president of Kazakhstan via an offshore trust in the British Virgin Islands.
The 12-bedroom house near Windsor Castle had been given to Prince Andrew as a wedding present from the Queen in 1986.
Prince Andrew is also reported to have had a £1.5m personal loan paid off in December 2017. According to Bloomberg News, the money was repaid by a company linked to a wealthy Conservative party donor - although Prince Andrew has never confirmed this.
Sarah, Duchess of York told the Standard in 2012 that she had made a "gigantic error of judgement" in accepting £15,000 from sex offender Jeffrey Epstein to pay off a debt.

Can you tell us all where the money for the sex abuse settlement will come from?
Their salaries?
LOL

mathanxiety · 22/04/2022 00:31

[Oprah does not pay for interviews]

And you can believe that if you want, but I certainly don't!

@Swayingpalmtrees
Evidence please, or we'll be forced to conclude your belief that Oprah paid (blood, ye gods!) money is completely unfounded.

EdithWeston · 22/04/2022 06:14

The latest iteration of the Prince Andrew thread is here

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/the_royal_family/4519070-Andrew-The-Abbey-Fergie-and-The-Fraudster

It includes discussion of his finances

Which I don't think are going to be factors in whether he is invited on to the Balcony. I expect he will be, its the quintessential family affair - invented as such, they're all there even the little DC. But perhaps they'll have the good sense to make sure he's way out to one side.

And to get back to the theme of the thread, I don't know if his potential presence would have an impact on the Sussexes decision.

We like to think that Harry would want to be with his family during the Jubilee celebrations, and I do think he's been invited. But there is also the possibility that he just doesn't want to.

And that the seeking of JR on the security issue is therefore, perhaps, just a good way to make an excuse that will last for a few years.

Oneglassandpuzzled · 22/04/2022 08:46

mathanxiety · 22/04/2022 00:22

The Yorks have actual proper salaried jobs, pay bills and are not bankrolled by the tax payer.

The hilarity continues.

Andrew is a professional moocher.
www.bbc.com/news/uk-60401663
His financial affairs, and how he has sustained his lifestyle, has been a long-running story.
In 2007, Prince Andrew sold his Sunninghill Park home for £15m - £3m more than the asking price - to Timor Kulibayev, the son-in-law of the then-president of Kazakhstan via an offshore trust in the British Virgin Islands.
The 12-bedroom house near Windsor Castle had been given to Prince Andrew as a wedding present from the Queen in 1986.
Prince Andrew is also reported to have had a £1.5m personal loan paid off in December 2017. According to Bloomberg News, the money was repaid by a company linked to a wealthy Conservative party donor - although Prince Andrew has never confirmed this.
Sarah, Duchess of York told the Standard in 2012 that she had made a "gigantic error of judgement" in accepting £15,000 from sex offender Jeffrey Epstein to pay off a debt.

Can you tell us all where the money for the sex abuse settlement will come from?
Their salaries?
LOL

The ‘Yorks’ referred to were Beatrice and Eugenie, York daughters, not the parents.

notanotheroneagain · 22/04/2022 14:18

And Andrew'shenenigans just bankrolled those 'salaried' daughter's wedding, it was reported a few weeks ago.

CathyorClaire · 22/04/2022 21:03

The York girl's 'jobs' exist on terms so far beyond normal employment practice they probably include unlimited use of the company unicorn.

And now they're now implicated in their father's grifting and schmoozing of questionable billionaires.

How the whole circus gets to be normalised and presented as equivalent to the sweat of Joe Peasant's brow is beyond me.

AnastasiaRomanov · 22/04/2022 21:35

CathyorClaire · 22/04/2022 21:03

The York girl's 'jobs' exist on terms so far beyond normal employment practice they probably include unlimited use of the company unicorn.

And now they're now implicated in their father's grifting and schmoozing of questionable billionaires.

How the whole circus gets to be normalised and presented as equivalent to the sweat of Joe Peasant's brow is beyond me.

So true

mathanxiety · 23/04/2022 03:47

The ‘Yorks’ referred to were Beatrice and Eugenie, York daughters, not the parents.

I am aware of that, and if they have jobs in any real sense of the word then so does my cat.

mathanxiety · 23/04/2022 03:51

But perhaps they'll have the good sense to make sure he's way out to one side.

If this happens and anyone considers it 'good sense', then my cat is probably their PR director.

Oneglassandpuzzled · 23/04/2022 10:55

mathanxiety · 23/04/2022 03:47

The ‘Yorks’ referred to were Beatrice and Eugenie, York daughters, not the parents.

I am aware of that, and if they have jobs in any real sense of the word then so does my cat.

Well, exactly: wasn't the point the poster was making (it was some pages back) one about how H&M could have had a York sisters-style arrangement with both work and HRH privileges? So a discussion of the practicalities vis-a-vis maintaining some royal presence, rather than of the value/rigour of said paid employment?

CathyorClaire · 23/04/2022 12:02

It's almost worth watching the balcony bit to see Andrew trying to creep from the outer wings to centre stage like a portly ninja.

He's contrived to force his florid mug into the limelight on two occasions now. I've no doubt he's planning a hat-trick.

Arucanafeather · 23/04/2022 14:01

“Portly ninja” - brilliant 😂I’m imaging sideways crab-like scuttling…

CathyorClaire · 23/04/2022 20:11

I reckon he's sharpening his pincers elbows as we type Grin

Becles · 23/04/2022 22:55

For the posters ranting about Harry's shunning by anyone remotely connected with a royal family, here he is being cold shouldered by his x cousin y times removed, the King of the Netherlands.

We need a Harry intervention to save the poor lamb from life as an ostracised, tainted, member of the blood royal who dared to move countries.

Harry and Meghan 'are invited to appear on Buckingham Palace balcony at Queen's Platinum Jubilee'
Harry and Meghan 'are invited to appear on Buckingham Palace balcony at Queen's Platinum Jubilee'
Arucanafeather · 23/04/2022 22:58

CathyorClaire · 23/04/2022 20:11

I reckon he's sharpening his pincers elbows as we type Grin

🦀😂

mathanxiety · 23/04/2022 23:51

...wasn't the point the poster was making (it was some pages back) one about how H&M could have had a York sisters-style arrangement with both work and HRH privileges? So a discussion of the practicalities vis-a-vis maintaining some royal presence, rather than of the value/rigour of said paid employment?

The problem with that discussion was that the 'work' (using the term in the loosest possible sense, which applies to the York sisters) would have to be carefully engineered to be as non-worky as the York women's, and any projects they envisioned for themselves could only encompass very bland and uncontroversial topics and would have to be very carefully curated. Therefore no private career in acting. No podcasts. No lending their names to any causes or positions not completely vetted for political content or ruffling of feathers anywhere on the globe. Invictus Games - fine. Speeches to the UN written by themselves - no way.

EdithWeston · 24/04/2022 07:30

I think she could have continued to act, because they were able, if they wanted, to have a 'duties free' (or at least duties-lite) first few years, which could have included continuing to act, but Suits had ended, and who knows weather (and when) she would secure something suitable. And of course she did the Disney voiceover before they left for Canada (though released later) so there clearly wasn't a ban.

We know they wanted DC, and if they were anticipating pregnancy, that would have made a difference to what sort of work profile was realistic.

Yes, as working royals, their causes are vetted and their speeches are checked but as the royals' portfolios already include subjects such as FGM, rape as tool of war, VAWG, domestic violence - all they have to do is avoid subjects that are considered too political and too partisan in UK. It doesn't mean soft and fluffy only.

AnastasiaRomanov · 24/04/2022 07:38

One of Harry’s gripes in the OW interview was on the subject that HM suggested M could continue to work if she so desired.
Harry took this as an insult. I don’t think M wanted to continue to work. I think she believed she could behave like a sort of glorified First Lady, championing causes and swanning about at public expense. Which was what happened, except she couldn’t tolerate any limitations or strictures on what she did or said. She didn’t understand that there was a public responsibility and accountability at the end of the day.
I think now they are in the US their model is still the same. Funding is going to come from selling their secrets and dishing the dirt to anyone who will pay.

Chilledchablis1 · 24/04/2022 08:03

@AnastasiaRomanov

Correct . My understanding- from articles at the time- was that HM suggested M could keep her acting career so that her transition to Royal life was easier . As an older bride used to being independent, I saw it as a sensible offer . I certainly don’t think HM was suggested that M should financially support the family .
Of course if M didn’t have anything major in the pipeline it was probably the right time to retire from acting .

mathanxiety · 27/04/2022 19:50

Which was what happened, except she couldn’t tolerate any limitations or strictures on what she did or said. She didn’t understand that there was a public responsibility and accountability at the end of the day.

She understood the situation. She just didn't agree that a future of dishing out pablum and earnestness was something she could contemplate. She has a degree from an excellent university and she was being asked to put her brain in park.

IcedPurple · 27/04/2022 19:59

mathanxiety · 27/04/2022 19:50

Which was what happened, except she couldn’t tolerate any limitations or strictures on what she did or said. She didn’t understand that there was a public responsibility and accountability at the end of the day.

She understood the situation. She just didn't agree that a future of dishing out pablum and earnestness was something she could contemplate. She has a degree from an excellent university and she was being asked to put her brain in park.

"dishing out pablum and earnestness" sounds like a pretty accurate description of Meghan's lifestyle blogging days. "The Tig" wasn't exactly brimming with sophisticated, informed insights into world affairs.

AnastasiaRomanov · 27/04/2022 19:59

No one forced her to marry Harry! If she understood the situation, why on earth did she marry him? She was given the option to continue with her acting career, so if she was using her brain being an actress no one was forcing her to give it up.
There were endless options for her to take up to put her brain to use. She just couldn’t have total free rein or make political statements. It’s her fault if she didn’t do any research into her role, as she herself admitted.

AnastasiaRomanov · 27/04/2022 20:06

IcedPurple · 27/04/2022 19:59

"dishing out pablum and earnestness" sounds like a pretty accurate description of Meghan's lifestyle blogging days. "The Tig" wasn't exactly brimming with sophisticated, informed insights into world affairs.

She’s doing a lot more dishing out of earnestness and pablum now than she was pre marriage.

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