Harry and Meghan 'are invited to appear on Buckingham Palace balcony at Queen's Platinum Jubilee'

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10729859/Prince-Harry-Meghan-Markle-invited-make-balcony-appearance-Jubilee.html

No source cited, so could just be made up news.

How do you all feel about this? Is it another refusing-to-fly-the-flag-at-half-mast-for-Diana misreading of the public mood? Does anybody actually care? And, if not, what does that signify?

Did they have any other option though if their experiences and complaints of racism was falling on deaf ears within the RF system? If they were being ignored, invalidated and racially abused then they needed to shine a light on it. What else could they have done?

Then surely they'd find it demeaning to share the balcony once again with these same people? Publicly declaring that they would be 'excited and honoured' to be back in their company suggests that they don't care about the issue that much. It seems that they are prepared to turn a blind eye to the racism, and everything else that they say went on, in favour of money, baubles and perks. Pretty telling behaviour.

Does anyone really believe they were "ignored, invalidated and racially abused"?

I think it’s beginning to dawn on them that they’ll have to hustle and sell themselves for the rest of their lives to keep the sort of lifestyles they think they’re entitled to. It’s probably proving to be a bit of a headache.
So now they’re preparing to backtrack and try to ingratiate themselves. I think they may move back eventually under very favourable terms to themselves, on condition that they keep their mouths firmly shut in future and act supportively towards Charles and William.

You have mis quoted me

…. I did not “claim” anything - I asked a question beginning with the word “If…”

Maybe it would be helpful to respond to my question.

That’s their complaint - is it up to the other side or both parties to engage in a resolution process which may involve anything from a denial, a clarification, an acknowledgment, an apology or a working position of dialogue with the aim of reconciliation initially in a private forum?

I think they may move back eventually under very favourable terms to themselves, on condition that they keep their mouths firmly shut in future and act supportively towards Charles and William

It will be interesting to see if this does happen. It's a difficult thing to do, returning with their tail between their legs to "Told you so" and "You failed". They would also be at William's mercy, who may really go to town with them. They would have to love money more than anything else on the planet for it to happen.

But your question is based on uncritical belief of rather dubious claims.

But if you insist, then yes, of course they had 'other options'. Lots of people have grievances with family. They don't feel the need to tell the world about them, knowing that the 'other side' is highly unlikely to respond. What exactly is to be gained from doing so?

And they certainly have the option not to turn around a year later and tell us how 'excited and honoured' they are to celebrate that same family in front of the world.

2019: Meghan 'Your family is so abnormal. Mine is the correct way of making a living. You don't need your family, you only need me!'
2020: M&H are offered projects based on the popularity of Harry's family and his connections (also sought because he is a Royal). There is no public interest in what Meghan thinks or says.
2021: These film production and charity hustles are proving to be difficult to get off the ground. There is no public interest in what Meghan thinks or says. It's still all about Harry being Royal.
2022: Meghan starts to accept that There is no public interest in what she thinks or says.. They start slowly edging their way back into Royal life, eating a small sliver of humble pie at every sitting.

Trouble is there will never be a guarantee that they won't go running off to the media any time they think they have been slighted. Also Harry's book may make it hard for them to find their way back.

Yet again you are mis representing me.

I have not said whether I believe them or not - so why do you judge me as uncritical.

What I will stand up for though is the right for anyone and everyone to speak out if THEY believe they are being abused, ignored and invalidated in any situation.

That’s the important step.

What happens next - investigation, resolution, consequences etc is an entirely different process and it’s not obvious if this is happening either privately or publicly.

I agree with the first part of your post. I think they massively overestimated their appeal outside of the royal family, and are now looking for a way to revive their flagging royal credentials.

However, I don't believe that Harry or Meghan will ever represent the monarchy again, whether or not they want to. They've shown that they simply can't be trusted.

Harry has behaved like a prodigal son but he is much loved and families often make irrationally large concessions to reintroduced their estranged children back into the fold. His friends certainly love and miss the old Harry and wish to see him being true to himself again rather than making excuses for what he always was and promoting the opinions and values of an ill informed spouse which have hardly propelled her into the stratosphere of success and celebrity (And are pretty cliché in Cali).

As for his wife, they will probably tolerate her and accept her involvement at a distance but this time round, she will have to accept that she no longer has the upper hand. Harry will not be the first person to sell themselves short in marriage and repent at leisure.

It's a difficult thing to do, returning with their tail between their legs If only they accepted the offer of taking some time out and move to Africa For a couple of years, their return would have been sensational, they could have made numerous documentaries about wildlife, volunteering etc,

I cannot imagine M living in the U.K. again .

What I will stand up for though is the right for anyone and everyone to speak out if THEY believe they are being abused, ignored and invalidated in any situation
That’s the important step.

It is an important step but the difference between then and now in what they are saying shows why these things should sometimes be handled privately. They have painted themselves into a corner with their public accusations and now face a choice - perish (by royal standards, obviously), or, grovel. Someone on here said that they should have taken a couple of years out to go and do royal things elsewhere. That is exactly what they should have done.

Or an easy life? No touting for deals or having to pay for security for example. William and Harry would know there was a price for silence.
A free house ( better than the one they had, I’ll bet) and the kudos of their children growing up with Royalty.

Exactly.

Oh no, I don’t think for a minute they will ever be ‘working ‘ Royals. They’ll get a great deal in exchange for silence and a low profile.

What I will stand up for though is the right for anyone and everyone to speak out if THEY believe they are being abused, ignored and invalidated in any situation.

That’s the important step.

But what is to be gained from airing your family grievances in front of the whole world? Speak out about it to people who can help you or who can do something about the situation, sure, but to 50 million strangers?

I'm sure Thomas Markle also believes that he is "being abused, ignored and invalidated" by his daughter and son in law. Do you also stand up for his right to tell the world about it?

What happens next - investigation, resolution, consequences etc is an entirely different process and it’s not obvious if this is happening either privately or publicly.

Do you think the Oprah show made it more or less likely that these alleged grievances will be resolved? Or was that not the aim at all?

Neither can I.

I think it will be quite stressful for Archie and Lollabet. They won't be used to crowds of people, noise and wont know anybody.

Is an easy life enough to swallow your pride so completely? People do swallow their pride but usually only for a great deal of money or love. I'm not sure that an easy life is enough of an incentive in this case. Living in rainy Frogmore, always walking a few steps behind, curtseying to your 'enemies', being told what to wear, eat and say, opening care homes - does having security, not having to work work and having a royal cousin make up for it?

"Lollabet"

But get a grip - the kids will be with their parents, and I'll bet Doria comes too for the babysitting.

Kids take their lead from their parents - if the parents are relaxed and confident the children will be too.

And they don't lead an entirely isolated life in California - doesn't the boy go to pre-school?

Lollabet is brilliant 😂

If they aren’t working Royals these don’t apply.