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The royal family

Andrew, The Abbey, Fergie and The Fraudster

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CathyorClaire · 01/04/2022 11:19

Last thread closed so I thought I'd amalagamate the latest antics for further discussion.

Also wanted to reply to this post near the end:

Perhaps the opportunity to contribute via cleaning jobs will soon arise for them, perhaps even faster than Andrew imagines, if he is up to knowing how to turn on a vacuum that is

He allegedly sent for a maid to climb four sets of stairs to close his curtains. I think he'd struggle with a vacuum Grin

Off to read up on the entirely unsurprising reports on links to the fraudster.

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AnastasiaRomanov · 02/04/2022 16:15

Oh my God. I can’t actually believe he did that. Using his ex wife’s Instagram to promote himself again. It’s utterly nauseating.

Roussette · 02/04/2022 16:15

*Would that mean some charities just never had a royal patronage or visits?"

I think that horse has bolted...worth a read

giving-evidence.com/2020/07/16/royal-findings/

AnastasiaRomanov · 02/04/2022 16:15

I’m sure this is the way he talks to Mummy .

Roussette · 02/04/2022 16:17

I'm not sure I can stomach reading his reminisces 🤮

Youvebeengonesolong · 02/04/2022 16:40

@AnastasiaRomanov

Oh my God. I can’t actually believe he did that. Using his ex wife’s Instagram to promote himself again. It’s utterly nauseating.
They really are a gruesome twosome.
Roussette · 02/04/2022 16:52

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/prince-andrew-beatrice-wedding-gift-b2049478.html

It gets worse
We now have money going to Beatrice and/or Eugenie for a surprise birthday party for their mother, yes he was helping fix a passport, no he wasn't, it was a wedding gift for the daughter

No comment from PAs advisers 😂

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/04/2022 16:54

I can’t actually believe he did that. Using his ex wife’s Instagram to promote himself again

Believe it Hmm

There seems no opportunity at all which he won't clutch in an attempt to paint himself in a better light and get his feet back under the table. Shame few are listening, but you don't get to spend decades behaving as he's done and then hope it'll be ignored - not even if the mummy's on your side

I'm just wondering how long it'll be until Sarah produces her next bout of claptrap about how honourable he is ...

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/04/2022 16:56

Hang on, Roussette, so now it's Beatrice as well as her sister??

Oh dear, oh dear ... Hmm

Mangowood · 02/04/2022 17:00

They have very generous family friends. None of mine send me 25k for my mums birthday party. Stingy lot.

LizzieSiddal · 02/04/2022 17:02

I’ve often thought these two have a most odd relationship. Its obviously because they know so much about each other’ dodgey dealings.Hmm

AnnunciataZ · 02/04/2022 17:12

@LizzieSiddal They really are a perfect match for each other. The arrogance is staggering.

Abra1d1 · 02/04/2022 17:20

Yes, symbiotic relationship.

LuluBlakey1 · 02/04/2022 17:33

This is what has happened- according to BBC, DMail and Gurdian.

Oct 2019 a Turkish millionairess ,Ms Isbilen, was told by a financial advisor (friend of Prince Andrew)called Selmen Turk to transfer £750,000 from her private bank, Hampden's Bank, to Andrew's personal bank account at Coutt's . She says she was told by him it was 'for help Andrew gave in getting her a British passport' . She was told normally the charge would be £2 million but if she gave the money as a gift it would be much cheaper. She marked it 'wedding gift' after her advisor said he had discussed it with Andrew.
Her banker at Hampden's , Stephen Buckland, questioned this amount - doing his due diligence and spoke first to Selmen Turk, and said Hampden's was uncomfortable in transferring such a large amount of money into a private account and needed to understand why it was so large and what it was for. Turk confirmed it was 'for the wedding costs for Beatrice's wedding' and said to speak to Andrew's Private Secretary, Amanda Thirsk (who also is involved in Pitch at the Palace) .

Buckland did so and expressed the same concerns he had to Turk. Thirsk confirmed it was 'a gift for the wedding' rather than a 'wedding gift' but said it was surely up to Beatrice and her family what they did with it once they had it.
The bank recorded transcripts of both calls on the basis that they were scrutinising this very large amount of money apparently being given to a British Prince by a Turkish national.
The money was transferred to Andrew's private bank account in Oct 2019.
In addition further £350,000 has been transferred to him over several payments and to Sarah Ferguson (£250,000+) and Beatrice and Eugenie (smaller amounts). This has never been returned to the Ms Isbilen.

When Ms Isbilen began to feel her advisor, Selmen Turk, had taken advantage of her and mis-used her money, she involved her lawyers. She told the High Court her money had been ‘dishonestly misappropriated’ by Mr Turk, an allegation he denies. They wrote to Andrew in March 2021- he had had the money for 18 months by then- asking questions about his receipt of this money (£750,000) and for what purpose he accepted it. He did not reply to any of the questions asked by the lawyers but the money was re-imbursed, to her account from his, within days of him receiving the letter.
The money given to him, Ferguson and the two girls (£575,000+) has not been returned.
A link has been made to Selmen Turk's business pitch at the palace- he was named winner and the transfer of £750,000 was made directly to Andrew within days of that win.

Andrew's Private Secretary, Amanda Thirsk told the D Mail, she could not remember the call from Stephen Buckland. She added: ‘As a person of integrity, I would not be involved in anything improper.’ Oddly, it happened on the day of Andrew's disastrous BBC interview with Emily Maitliss.

The further series of payments totalling £350,000 made to the Yorks were made from a company named Alphabet. Mrs Isbilen’s solicitor told the High Court in his affidavit there was ‘strong evidence’ the firm was a ‘fraudulent and covert front used by Mr Turk...to make payments to persons associated with him. Those persons include HRH Prince Andrew [and] Sarah, Duchess of York’. The High court was told the Alphabet transactions were consistent with a pattern of ‘apparent money laundering activity by Mr Turk' and ‘The Alphabet disclosure shows that further transfers of up to £350,000, in regular instalments and in many instances under the reference TK WEDDING or TK WED, were made to Prince Andrew.’
Sarah Ferguson received ‘at least’ £225,000 from the Alphabet account, the affidavit states. 'At least £225,000 was transferred to an account in the name of DUCHESS OF YORK out of the Alphabet account, again in regular instalments.’
Eugenie received at least £25,000 in two payments- she claims it was for catering for a birthday party for her mother.

Family who do absolutely nothing but trade off their name and status appear to receive huge sums of money from almost strangers for some reason.

It stinks.

I have never been anti-royalist but I am now. It's disgusting.

GrazingSheep · 02/04/2022 17:35

Instagram posts gone now
They are a pair of fucking gobshites

Roussette · 02/04/2022 17:36

Puzzled I was on my phone and having difficulty scrolling back and forth to the article. All it says (I can check properly now) they have both featured in evidence given in the High Court dispute. (I don't want to be the bearer of false info!)

Yes, on Sarah saying what a 'giant of an honourable man he is'. Surely she can't be that tone deaf ... oh hang on....

Roussette · 02/04/2022 17:37

Instagram posts gone now

I'm not on IG. Has it been deleted?!

AnastasiaRomanov · 02/04/2022 17:38

Thanks for that summary.
It is just mind boggling. They are all in it up to their necks. Who needs £25,000 for a birthday party??
This passport application must have been extremely dodgy if Andrew was being paid those sorts of sums in thanks.
They are totally crooked all of them.

GrazingSheep · 02/04/2022 17:41

I'm not on IG. Has it been deleted?!

Yes

LittleBearPad · 02/04/2022 17:41

@AnnunciataZ

Andrew has used Fergie's Instagram account to reminisce about the Falklands War. His posts also manage to be quite a bit about himself at the same time: "So whilst think back to a day when a young man went to war, full of bravado, I returned a changed man. I put away childish things and false bravado and returned a man full in the knowledge of human frailty and suffering."

On the one hand yes, he fought in that war and is entitled to reminisce about it on the anniversary but on the other, read the room! They really are a shameless pair.

And obvs never had to buy deodorant again…
Roussette · 02/04/2022 17:42

Lulu I have to say... even I as an ordinary member of the public would be highly suspicious of £750,000 landing in my account!

PA and ex wife and daughters obviously lapped it up as a 'royalty freebie'.

Ferguson’s spokesperson said: “The duchess was completely unaware of the allegations that have since emerged against Mr Turk. She is naturally concerned by what has been alleged against him.”

A spokesperson for Andrew said: “We are unable to comment on ongoing legal proceedings.”

I presume SF is as concerned as she was about the Epstein dosh too?

Roussette · 02/04/2022 17:45

This passport application must have been extremely dodgy if Andrew was being paid those sorts of sums in thanks

But PA, as a member of the RF, just cannot get involved in securing passports... surely?

We need to remember ... we probably know 10% (if that) of the dodgy dealings.

I just hope some investigative journalists keep digging.

LBFseBrom · 02/04/2022 17:46

I read about that. It seems he didn't do anything wrong. The media are barrel scraping at the moment and I'm thoroughly disgusted with the lot of them - not just the Mail though they are the worst.

One wonders who will be the next victim (glad it's not me).

Roussette · 02/04/2022 17:51

I read about that. It seems he didn't do anything wrong

Really? Shock

If he didn't do anything wrong why has he returned his share of the £1.25million then? After keeping it 18 months....
Funny how sleaze follows him round...

Walkingthedog46 · 02/04/2022 17:52

I agree, we need a new National Anthem more suited to the present day and age.

LittleBearPad · 02/04/2022 17:54

@LBFseBrom

I read about that. It seems he didn't do anything wrong. The media are barrel scraping at the moment and I'm thoroughly disgusted with the lot of them - not just the Mail though they are the worst.

One wonders who will be the next victim (glad it's not me).

He didn’t do anything wrong?

He’s got the morals of an alleycat and the sense of a hamster

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