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Prince Andrew Thread 4

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Roussette · 26/01/2022 21:16

I'm starting a new one as events seem to be moving again. Sorry I can't do a link to no. 3
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Mamamia7962 · 16/02/2022 10:42

Don't think we will ever know the exact figure. I read 'up to 12 million', so that could be 7m, 10m or 12m, who knows.

I thought the sale of his chalet was supposed to cover his court costs and settlement.

I also read that there is no NDA attached to the agreement. Can't believe that's true but if it is, why would he agree to that?

FumingFredericka · 16/02/2022 10:44

I think the outcome is satisfactory, especially for the victims' charity. And although all the royal reporters are saying there is likely to be relief at Buck Palace, I can imagine there is huge anger too on behalf of the Queen at the amount of money required to make this go away. And all of the stress
and damage to reputation involved. Frankly, it doesn't reflect well on The Firm generally that PA was allowed to get away with his bogus trade representative role and morally abhorrent extra-curricular activities for so long. All under the eyes and protectiof the Royal Family.

The activities of Prince Andrew & Sarah Ferguson will be totally stymied financially in the short term as he doesn't own a home privately any longer now they have sold the ski chalet. They were short of cash before weren't they (relatively speaking)? They can probably only depend on living in their grace & favour home in Windsor as long as the Queen lives. After that their living will be dependent on King Charles's generosity and by all accounts he will not be inclined to show much mercy. The Queen may leave PA funds from her private estate I suppose. He'll probably end up in one of the less salubrious flats in Kensington Palace. I bet he wishes now that he had put his head down and focused on proper charity work like his sister. At the risk of sounding too Oprah-like; whatever you put out there in the universe definitely comes back and hits you on the bum. Even now though, I can't imagine him being too remorseful or penitent. He's probably still blaming others for his predicament

diddl · 16/02/2022 11:32

This all shows the problem with Royals being hamstrung by the work that they can do-or thinking that they are!

The short sightedness of not realising how far down the line Andrew could be & not capable of earning a living!

FumingFredericka · 16/02/2022 11:43

Two words are trending on Twitter ATM in favour of republicanism ...

King Andrew

Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 11:48

@Mamamia7962

Don't think we will ever know the exact figure. I read 'up to 12 million', so that could be 7m, 10m or 12m, who knows.

I thought the sale of his chalet was supposed to cover his court costs and settlement.

I also read that there is no NDA attached to the agreement. Can't believe that's true but if it is, why would he agree to that?

Because he is guilty and had no choice but to settle?
Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 11:50

@FumingFredericka

Two words are trending on Twitter ATM in favour of republicanism ...

King Andrew

Yes all this rubbish of look who we could get as a President. When we could easily have ended up with Kind Andrew for decades.
FumingFredericka · 16/02/2022 12:00

Yes all this rubbish of look who we could get as a President. When we could easily have ended up with Kind Andrew for decades.

Indeed. It would only have taken something to have happened to Prince Charles - a bad fall from a polo pont? - prior to him marrying and having children.

Chilledchablis1 · 16/02/2022 12:08

I think there have to be urgent steps taken to remove A as a Counsellor of State and the line of succession .

Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 12:09

And remove his title of Prince.

OverByYer · 16/02/2022 12:16

I’m abroad with limited wifi access so only just catching up on this. Great news although am disappointed we didn’t get to see PA squirm in court. He should have no place in public life

Chilledchablis1 · 16/02/2022 12:20

Monopolyiscrap

“And remove his title of Prince.”

I am not sure if that can be done but his Dukedom was a gift and it is in HM’s power to remove it . Hopefully she will do so.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/02/2022 12:21

And remove his title of Prince

Not going to happen
There's an outside chance it might have done if he'd lost in court, or worse still if the lawyers had prised even more dirt out of him, but that would never have been allowed to happen either

Roussette · 16/02/2022 12:39

Fuming
Totally agree with your post.

If he'd been a better man, this could've been handled in a totally different way.
He should not have done that interview quite obviously. He came across as an arrogant entitled prick with no sympathy for anyone and that will forever be his legacy.

If he had admitted to sleeping with her, said he had no idea she was trafficked, nor had he realised that the young girls there were trafficked (yeah... right...) but apologise profusely for being involved with such a reprehensible individual as JE, apologise profusely for being involved with him and Maxwell and that he was going to involve himself in giving awareness to trafficked invididuals.

He might... just might have scraped through.

But hearing again when Maitlis asked him if he regretted his friendship... the words he used saying 'no, he didn't' made me feel sick.

He deserves everything he gets. May I never see his stupid arrogant face again in public. Nor his ex to be honest.

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Mamamia7962 · 16/02/2022 12:48

Fuming - Prince Andrew was only 21 when Prince Charles got married, so if anything had happened to Charles and Andrew had become King his life would have been very different. There would have been no playboy lifestyle.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 16/02/2022 12:51

Prince Andrew was only 21 when Prince Charles got married, so if anything had happened to Charles and Andrew had become King his life would have been very different. There would have been no playboy lifestyle

I wouldn't want to assume that, but you forgot to mention the other big difference ... as king he'd have been completely immune to any type of prosecution, at least within the UK

Roussette · 16/02/2022 12:53

And just by dint of being the Monarch, no criticism in some quarters either.

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Mamamia7962 · 16/02/2022 13:17

Puzzledandpissedoff - Yes, but if he was King he would not have had the freedom that he otherwise had. I very much doubt he would have married Sarah Ferguson or met Jeffrey Epstein.

Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 13:36

@Mamamia7962 why would he not have met Epstein?
Charles met Jimmy Saville quite a few times.

I agree he probably would not have married Sarah Ferguson. He would have been expected to marry a quiet compliant woman.

derxa · 16/02/2022 14:02

Charles met Jimmy Saville quite a few times. What's that got to do with the price of fish? Charles didn't ask JS for money.

SpinningTheSeedsOfLove · 16/02/2022 14:07

when Maitlis asked him if he regretted his friendship... the words he used saying 'no, he didn't' made me feel sick

I've wondered whether he actually understood the question? He's really bloody stupid so it's possible he couldn't fully compute the words, let alone the intention behind them.

The way he answered it was to say that Epstein was useful to him - as if to say he couldn't possibly regret something that was useful to him personally.

Just thick as mince.

His cogs don't whirr - they sit in a lake of rancid treacle.

Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 14:07

@derxa I am responding to the claims that if Andrew had been heir he would not have met Epstein. I think that is a false claim as our current heir has met a number of times a prolific paedophile and sex offender Jimmy Saville.

Prince Andrew Thread 4
Monopolyiscrap · 16/02/2022 14:08

@SpinningTheSeedsOfLove I think he was being truthful. He did not regret meeting Epstein because he had been useful to him personally.
Throughout he has shown no regard or compassion at all for the girls and women involved.

derxa · 16/02/2022 14:11

[quote Monopolyiscrap]@derxa I am responding to the claims that if Andrew had been heir he would not have met Epstein. I think that is a false claim as our current heir has met a number of times a prolific paedophile and sex offender Jimmy Saville.[/quote]
So did many people. Including the people who worked at the BBC.

supersop60 · 16/02/2022 14:13

I'm only going on what was portrayed in The Crown, but surely there was someone at the Palace who said to PA that it was not a good idea to be friends with JE, especially after he came out of prison????
Or does a life of privilege mean that you have no boundaries, and think you can get away with anything?

BeMoreGoldfish · 16/02/2022 14:17

None of them have any boundaries. They may not have stooped to the depths that PA did but they're all arrogant, entitled fuckers. Why do we continue to bow and scrape to these people?? The sychophancy astonishes me.