If you were as fearful for your family's safety as Harry is....

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...why would you want to have them participate in a really high-profile public bash?

Particularly one to celebrate an institution you have walked away from.

Genuinely puzzled.

Love or loathe the Sussexes, they've again picked a great time to make this public & give the Queen another PR headache she doesn't need

Don't blame them. The DFail published a completely inaccurate story overnight saying they were suing the Govt or some such nonsense. They rebutted it. Should they just accept all the lies put out?

Funny how it came out now given this has been going on for over a year.

No they didn't pick this time to release anything

The mail ran an article last night that was deliberately incorrect. Harry released a statement correcting the false statements. This legal process was started in September
The mail chose to release this now; I would argue to reduce the focus and heat on Andrew

@ANameChangeAgain

Our police service are not there for his private use. This is what private security is for. He doesn't work for this country by choice, so he need to dig into his own enormous pockets to fund security for his family. He is a celebrity now, not a working royal.

I don’t think you can have read the facts @ANameChangeAgain. Harry wants to pay for his own security: he has said that he is happy to pay. But he also wants his team in UK to have access to the anti-royal terrorist intel, and for that, his team need to be serving police officers. So he asked if he can pay to borrow some police protection while he’s here, and was told no. Which seems petty. Why not just let him hire a few police for a week? We’re talking about the Queen’s grandson here. He isn’t a random celeb, the threats against his family exist because he’s a British royal.

His usual American security team will have no idea how to behave in UK, they’re used to very different gun laws and eg freedom to shoot trespassers.

The Met don't have a few highly trained Royal Protection Officers just sitting round for Harry to "borrow" as suggested by a PP when he is in the UK.

It's a niche role, they will be trained in, and licensed in some skills, and not exclusively, firearms, close protection, surveillance, advance driving, escort driving, they will have specific equipment personalised to them and their role, and will be staffed appropriately in number for those who are covered by the requirement. They will also be highly briefed on the person they are protecting. You can't just borrow ten cops from response for a fortnight to cover him.

There won't be any highly skilled and trained officers spare to lend him, whether he foots the bill or not.

Who actually cares, its so weird that some seem to have such hatred for 2 people they have never met and who have no idea they exist.

The Met don't have a few highly trained Royal Protection Officers just sitting round for Harry to "borrow" as suggested by a PP when he is in the UK.

This is exactly what I said on the other thread. We have a friend who is in Special Protection and he and his colleagues are very busy with both the RF and Government ministers. He’s not sitting around waiting for Harry to show up.

I find the RF playing footsie with the tabloids while protecting Andrew obscene and hypocritical

Random celebs that don't take taxpayer handouts I am less excited about.

Not rveryone feels such dislike as you do snowdrop
Just bear that in mind

And we have some that hate H&M with such a vengeance that they will twist every single thing they do to push their hate campaign.
I find that extremely worrying and odd.

He will provided with the security that they police normally offer for those in the country, not a private bodyguard though as that's only for certain reasons (he'll have protection as part of the family at events just not in between). The non working royals do not have constant police protection either

I am more interested in why royal sources spent years leaking to anyone who would print it that Harry ought to come back for xyz event.

Why was the RF pretending he was snubbing etc when they spent 2 years refusing to agree a protocol on security while merrily protecting Andrew?

It just looks sketchy

By all means the RF can choose to do what they want re Andrew and Harry but why the constant leaking to the press about Harry but the omerta for Andrew. It is such brazen manipulation.

Hate the sussexes but the Royal PR via their sources is very interesting

[quote ANameChangeAgain]@lublintodublin is there a comparison?[/quote]
Former prime ministers may receive protection even when they are no longer in service to the country if the risk results from their role when they were in service.

Prince Harry and his family are at risk because he is the son of the heir to the throne and saw active service in thd British army. That risk doesn't disappear just because he is no longer a working royal or active military officer.

As I said previously, it's a complex issue. And unless any posters here are high court judges or senior intelligence officers, any opinions spouted are not based in fact.

I never got the survey where I got a vote on was and was not welcome in the UK

With people like you Snowdrop whipping up a hate frenzy, I hope they don't either!

I will say again. Not everyone feels like you do.

I didn't know this was started in September. I thought it was being stirred up so that when Megan doesn't come back for the jubilee celebrations (or a state funeral) it won't be because the British Public can't stand her (I generalise) it will be because there is no security.

(In reality it will be because there will be no positive publicity from her coming here. PH is tolerated because he is PH.)

I don’t get it. I would think if intelligence agencies had knowledge that he/his family was actively being targeted they would swing into action at the time, advise him and offer necessary protection? I may be extremely naive but I thought they would do this for any Joe Bloggs. I can’t see UK intelligence getting info they believe is valid and not acting on it while he/his family is in the UK as that seems odd. The point of getting intel is then acting on it when necessary, no? So not sure what the problem is with private security and UK intelligence also stepping in if they believe there is an active imminent threat?

@lunar1

I think it's fair enough for him to be protected while he's in the uk, with Harry and Megan contributing to the cost.

It would have to be conditional that their Netflix and whatever other contracts they have are not involved in any way. Our police force don't need to be involved in their reality tv chaos.

I agree.

Media are making more of this than necessary. I hope they do come back to visit - often.

It's a pity these issues are made public.

If they were coming for a private, quiet holiday then I can understand and yes, protection should be given - however last time they were in UK they seemed to be filming for some documentary and were also doing lots of activities seemingly in order to promote their personal ‘brand’…I don’t see why our already stretched police & intelligence services etc should prioritise them in this scenario whilst they’re obviously courting publicity.