Meghan Markle ANL court appeal. Thread 2.

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For those that are interested - I know I am.

Does anyone know when the appeal judgement will be made.

I must say I didn't think that was her plan. I got the impression that she quite liked being royal. The dressing up, the handshakes from the eager crowds all waiting in anticipation. But who knows. Maybe for an ambitious person knowing that would be your place in the firm for life without any chance of promotion was a stumbling block.

I think they just assumed the half in half out proposal would be successful. Then they'd both still get to be royal, but combine that with doing things the way they wanted and ditching all the things they didn't like. I don't think the exit they eventually made, with the permanent move to
LA, was what they originally hoped for. A split existence with a lot more time in the US but also here seemed more like the goal.

Why was I deleted?

How is this Omid breaking a story, he just said sources told Abc and GMA

^And if you weren’t able to tune in...
Sources exclusively confirm to
@ABC @GMA that Duchess Meghan quietly travelled to Toronto last Tuesday for a three-day stay at the family home of close friends Jessica and Ben MulroneyFlag of Canada^

@rubicscubicle

How is this Omid breaking a story, he just said sources told Abc and GMA

^And if you weren’t able to tune in...
Sources exclusively confirm to
@ABC @GMA that Duchess Meghan quietly travelled to Toronto last Tuesday for a three-day stay at the family home of close friends Jessica and Ben MulroneyFlag of Canada^

How is that not him breaking the story? Isn’t he ABC’s royal reporter?

Doesn’t mean Meghan was involved of course.

Don't know why everyone is pretending she was being protected.

What I note is that JK was in Tonga and did not know about MM trip, probably a reason why MM wanted to keep her own passport, so she does not have to tell the everyone at the palace. A few who can keep the secret. Without JK knowing, sure enough the trip remained a secret. Most of MM's trips, even personal were always leaked, right up till they had their own staff at Sussex Royal. It's clear the palace source was not told about this one (though surely some will have seen her, the RRs were not (un)officially told here).

The birth shenanigans were done by the palace and MM took the blame as the public kept saying what is SHE hiding. So no help from the palace there.

@Serenster she never said they were not willing to lie for her, she said they were willing to lie for others and not tell the truth for her.

Also she never said she was a hostage or that they forced her to take the passports etc. without her wanting it. It was just done.

The Palace most probably weren’t told until several hours after the birth. That’s my take on it.

I don't believe it was her plan to leave either.

However, I think when the reporting of their living cost ramped up and the comments on the cost of her clothes, home, living expenses, travel, security etc and the taxpayer saying 'we are paying for that' and believing it was in the public interest to report on it, I would guess she probably thought to herself, I'm not having that, we will earn our own money and spend it as we wish and do our Royal duties as independently as we can.

But she would have taken security with her to Toronto. So surely even if she had booked her own flights and user her Canadian passport the Royal Aides and the security services would have known?

Though apparently she didn't have her own passport. Or so she told Oprah

@Viviennemary

I must say I didn't think that was her plan. I got the impression that she quite liked being royal. The dressing up, the handshakes from the eager crowds all waiting in anticipation. But who knows. Maybe for an ambitious person knowing that would be your place in the firm for life without any chance of promotion was a stumbling block.

I think there is a large amount of other work that goes with being royal which isn’t fun or glamorous which possibly wasn’t realised or known about earlier.

@Skiptheheartsandflowers

I think they just assumed the half in half out proposal would be successful. Then they'd both still get to be royal, but combine that with doing things the way they wanted and ditching all the things they didn't like. I don't think the exit they eventually made, with the permanent move to LA, was what they originally hoped for. A split existence with a lot more time in the US but also here seemed more like the goal.

Yes, I think you are right about half in/half out. After all, the royal family and being part of it was absolutely fine when they wanted to be half in. It was only intolerable and racist once that was refused.

@PickupaPenguin8

The Palace most probably weren’t told until several hours after the birth. That’s my take on it.

It seems unlikely to me that nobody would have known beforehand considering the organisation that would have been required by their staff for them to get to and from hospital and give birth without the media or general public realising. They would have needed staff including security and probably a driver at the very least. It’s not like they could rock up unannounced and alone to the labour ward to have the baby.

@ChristmasPlanning

But she would have taken security with her to Toronto. So surely even if she had booked her own flights and user her Canadian passport the Royal Aides and the security services would have known?

Though apparently she didn't have her own passport. Or so she told Oprah

There were people who leaking against them. I doubt security are the 'palace source' who have been leaking though are they. Not only are they unlikely to have anything against the Sussexes, but they are part of the Met, are they not?

There were trustworthy people and dodgy people at the camp. Most notably, as soon as they left for Sussex Royal, there was less leaking , presumably because they moved with trustworthy staff. While ofcouse they would have had to run things via BP and other Houses etc. where there is risk of a leak, I think there were workers who were trustworthy.

They’ve gone now and won’t be coming back. What I’m curious about is how the RF deal with them with regards to upcoming events like the platinum jubilee. There were reports that they were expecting to be there.

I can only assume they are like other family members now, Bea, Eugenie etc.

It looks like their set up now is even better than the half in and out. They don't have to deal with the rota or palace stumbling blocks.

I see another stick has been found to bear Meghan with - this time a trip to Toronto to silence her ex boyfriend . Why does everything have to be viewed as nefarious? So what if she wasn't where some reporter said she was? The same was true for the Queen the other week when she was in hospital and they kept the flag flying at BP to indicate she was in residence. They're entitled to some privacy. And the whole discussion over passports and car keys is bananas. Meghan referred to it and the (understandable) feelings it provoked. She never claimed she was being held captive or said she hadn't been allowed to travel.

Probably because everything Meghan does has an agenda.

Like hijacking a veterans event in a wholly inappropriate red ballgown.

I don't think they chose Canada/The US at all after this week, I think they were firmly pushed.

I also think that this appeal will go her way, but the damage to their reputations has been well and truly done.

Also MM never said she wanted to run for president, neither did her friends.

This was taken from some old footage when she was in suits, and the cast were asking and answering random questions. When the question said who could be president or who would make the best president, there all answered MM.

The British media took it and twisted it.

They did not hijack anything since they were invited.

Don't know what you mean about this week in Canid/US.

The British media may try to twist things all they want, for a lot of people it's a transparent manipulation by them. No wonder the US pretty much ignored the whole MoS fiasco.

@rubicscubicle

How is this Omid breaking a story, he just said sources told Abc and GMA

^And if you weren’t able to tune in...
Sources exclusively confirm to
@ABC @GMA that Duchess Meghan quietly travelled to Toronto last Tuesday for a three-day stay at the family home of close friends Jessica and Ben MulroneyFlag of Canada^

For someone who has told us they worked in media rubicscuble I’m surprised you don’t know this. “Sources exclusively confirm” means that the only journalist publication who has been given the information is ABC and GMA. An “exclusive” is hugely valuable because it means you get to publish the information first, and all other media sources will have to copy it from you.

ABC’s Royal reporter at the time was Carolyn Durand. GMA is Good Morning America, and Omid Scobie notes on his twitter bio that he is a contributor to them. Interesting of course that with the Palace press office having generally denied that Meghan had travelled to Canada, the Duchess then agreed to the two authors of Finding Freedom being given an exclusive about what she’d actually been doing.

As for why she mentioned she was in Toronto - at the time Jason Knauf was in Tonga on a recce for the later royal trip there. Obviously the Palace would have known where she was, and she would have been accompanied by security (the report that the blog that said they’d seen her on the plane noted “KP had requested that no one take Meghan’s picture or approach her on the flight” - presumably she wasn’t telling the passengers this herself!). She may simply have been reminding Jason of what time zone she was in.

Oh, and I also meant to say, being the first to publish a story is commonly known as “breaking” the story. As I’m sure you must also know.

Like hijacking a veterans event in a wholly inappropriate red ballgown.

It was a gala. Google Salute to Freedom gala and you will see other guests in black tie and ballgowns. So it was neither hijacking nor inappropriate.

My thinking is that the whole "get married, have a baby and then bugger off" thing was the plan the whole time

I've believed the same for a long time - and obviously I can't possibly prove it, which is why it's just a belief